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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



mafketis
15 Feb 2023  #691

The war could have been over by now.

russian disinfo.... there's no reason to believe that had a "peace" deal been made russia would be busy rearming and preparing for a new attack....

russians say this openly.... why do so many rightwing Americans (including polams who should know better) eager to placate russia?

Crnogorac3
15 Feb 2023  #692

youtu.be/iwexn_9_ybM

A role reversal !! China supplies Russia with fighter jet parts

Bratwurst Boy
15 Feb 2023  #693

.....I always wonder where you get these news from....whenever I search for confirmation on the net I find nothing!

amiga500
15 Feb 2023  #694

why do so many rightwing Americans eager to placate russia?

Tucker took some real bad acid a while back (made in KGB) and look what happens..

gumishu
15 Feb 2023  #695

Where is Poland???

Poland is east of Germany :P

PolAmKrakow
15 Feb 2023  #696

You know, just when I think Russia cannot impress me any more they go ahead and impress me. Russia, in less than one year has lost half of all of its modern battle tanks! Are you kidding me? These SOB's are not only number one in dying, but they are number one in specializing in getting killed in tanks! This is just fvcking incredible news. Who would have thought Russia could lead the world in two categories. Bravo!

Reports out of Poland now saying that Ukraine soldiers training on Leopard tanks will be ready in a few more weeks to take the field and that they are learning very quickly. Little do they know that their successful training will likely keep Russia in first place in the world for these two categories. Obviously an unwelcome side effect of winning, but that sometimes happens.

Crnogorac3
15 Feb 2023  #697

nytimes.com/2023/01/31/world/europe/sex-workers-ukraine-health.html

Deviating from the Orthodox Christian faith, seduced by the false splendor & glimmer of the West, misguided Ukrainian women sank into the abyss of hell.

PolAmKrakow
15 Feb 2023  #698

@Crnogorac3
You know what report we are all waiting for? The Belgrade report on Serbian women servicing American soldiers. Thats should be interesting. Probably along the same lines of Russian women escaping captivity for the US in order to break the chain of Russian inbreeding.

And just as I wrote this, another HMARS strike killed a dozen Orcs. As they lay in the ditch burning and bleeding out I am sure they are grateful for some Serbian POS wasting peoples time on message boards. All the while little fag Vlad is sitting in the Kremlin dancing in drag with his latest flunkies.

In the real war, the one that counts, more missiles over Kiev have been shot down by air defense systems provided by NATO. Yes, that pesky little NATO that Putin is afraid of. Crnog remembers NATO right? You know, the ones who bombed the fvck out of you and your scumbag comrades? Happy gulag biatches!

Bobko
15 Feb 2023  #699

@Paulina

Paulina... You will not get me suspended again.

In conclusion, I must say - as a Russian, I still cannot subscribe to the view that Poland's aid of weapons and ammunition to Ukraine is in Poland's or the region's long term interest. Thank you.

pawian
15 Feb 2023  #700

I still cannot subscribe to the view

Of course you can`t coz you are an empire-oriented Russian Putinist. While we aren`t, so we see it in a completely different way. By aiding Ukraine Poland is contributing to the defeat and subsequent disintegration of Russia. We have lived through similar events before. Remember 1991?? hahahaha

We love Russia so much that we will be only too happy to see a dozen of them - 12 Russiastans. Like 12 chairs. hahaha

Bobko
15 Feb 2023  #701

Poland is contributing to the defeat and subsequent disintegration of Russia

Thank you. Let the record show that Poland assisted Ukraine, at least in part, to aid the disintegration of Russia. Suddenly, Herr Putin does not seem so mad.

pawian
15 Feb 2023  #702

Suddenly, Herr Putin does not seem so mad.

You see, I was correct when I dubbed you a Putinist. :):)

But you are mistaken about your beloved leader, the Sun of the Nation. He has brought this disaster on Russia himself.

Bobko
15 Feb 2023  #703

Sun of the Nation

Finally you are beginning to provide the respect that is due. Good. Now that you have engaged your mental faculties, digest what I was communicating to you over the last 24-36 months or so, and get back to me.

pawian
15 Feb 2023  #704

what I was communicating to you over the last 24-36 months or so

Too many people have communicated sth to me recently. Why should I particularly remember your message? I am getting older, not younger.

Bobko
15 Feb 2023  #705

Why should I particularly remember your message?

I won't say, "because it can save your life one day", because I don't like to be dramatic or say things for the birds. However, I can promise you, that you will have a deeper appreciation for the nuance of the unfolding conflagration.

pawian
15 Feb 2023  #706

of the unfolding conflagration

You mean Russian attack on Poland? So let it happen as soon as possible at last, I don`t want to be kept in such uncertainty for all those years which have remained me. :):):).

Bobko
15 Feb 2023  #707

I don`t want to be kept in such uncertainty for all those years which have remained me. :):):).

First of all, I hope you will be here for many more years and educate many more generations of PF users. I must admit, hesitantly, that I am a fan of the baboon.

Next I want to say that I hope this conflict with Poland never comes. I would much rather fight some French or Brits, than have to go for the f&ckin Poles right after the Ukrainians. Having been educated about how much you hate us, through this forum, I can only expect the fight would be just as biblical as in Ukraine.

No, I hope for a new world after whatever emerges from this Ukraine mess. And I hope we don't have to see WW3 before we see this.

pawian
15 Feb 2023  #708

No, I hope for a new world after whatever emerges from this Ukraine mess.

Just like I do!!! You are displaying exactly the same type of thinking! 12 Russiastans is the absolute minimum!!! hahahaha

mafketis
15 Feb 2023  #709

The Belgrade report on Serbian

Maybe pro-russian feeling in Serbia is.... overrated?

theins.ru/en/politics/259352

Russia cannot impress me any more they go ahead and impress me

the russian capacify for lying, stealing, violence, self-deception and self-pity is bottomless..... russian capacity for anything positive..... barely exists....

it's a pathetic situation, their mad tsar leader is destroying their country and all they can do is threaten others

And here's a sad situation.... a russian with principles kills himself in his own country rather than make Ukrainians do it....

twitter.com/InsiderEng/status/1625837358309335040

Sad, broken country.... its delusions about being a great power are grotesque and pitiable....

Korvinus
15 Feb 2023  #710

Sad, broken country.... its delusions about being a great power are grotesque and pitiable....

Spot on.

XX century was sh*it for Poles but good for Poland. XX century was sh*it for both Russia and Russians. Also a major difference is things have improved and look to improve more for Poland while Russia is again heading towards disaster.

The 20th century was quite positive for Poles compared to Russians.

The Poles gained a large independent state from scratch, even though 19th century looked hopeless as Poland was divided between strong empires. Lost some ethnic territories (Lviv), but gained way more in the west (Stettin, Breslau, Danzig, etc.) Now Poles have a homogenous large country. There had been tons of Jews, now it is almost judenrein. It is also quite successful. For example, Poland has a homicide rate of 0.7 to Russia's 7.3, as well as longer life expectancy and higher per capita GDP despite having fewer resources. No one is replacing the Poles in Polish cities as the Central Asians replace the Russians. There's no large ethnic mafia as in Russia. It is also diplomatically in a better position, not engaged in a losing war but instead getting money from its neighbours.

Meanwhile, Russia's territory drastically contracted to about 70% of the Russian empire, even less if you count populated areas. Russia did not make any gains at all throughout the century. The Russians did colonise Siberia and assimilate Ukrainians in the south, but that doesn't really pertain to the country. Russians expanded a bit in the Baltics, but that is also not country expansion. Russians had the same WW2 crisis as the Poles, but on top of it they had the equally violent Civil War, and the 90s were much more destructive there. You could say Moscow had gains in the 20th century, but Russia itself got screwed. Things were looking up in 2000-2014 and especially 2000-2007, but it seems the leadership decided to continue the downward spiral.

Bobko
15 Feb 2023  #711

@Korvinus

Hey guys, watch this glorious opus stay up and expect to see Master Korvinus regailng us with his historic diatribes into the morning.

Meanwhile, before I get suspended I would like to say I think that Poland should immediately discontinue its aid to Ukraine, and try urgently to repair ties with Russia - the only power which can afford Poles the chance to send a fat middle finger to all the "fake allies" which have betrayed you at every critical point in your history. Our history may be complex, but together we did truly crazy things. Even after we separated, Poles played a hugely important role in the development of the Soviet Union. The road may not be pretty, but we will go it with dignity without bowing our heads to anyone.

pawian
15 Feb 2023  #712

but we will go it with dignity .

No, we will not go together, irrelevant if with or without dignity, until Russians are cured of their imperial obsessions.
When that happens - who knows, we can go, I have nothing against. :):)

amiga500
15 Feb 2023  #713

I still cannot subscribe to the view that Poland's aid of weapons and ammunition to Ukraine is in Poland's or the region's long term interest

Did you miss my previous post you new york donut ruski munchin simpleton? the region will be free of the russian imperialist for many decades if not centuries. I am sure your ukranian girlfriend will contribute by putting some arsenic in your coffee in the near future.

At the centre of all these efforts is Poland, the most populous state in the region, with the largest economy and the best equipped army. It has explicitly revived the concept of an Intermarium that gathers up its neighbours in a new regional alliance.

It would mark the formation of a new entity in eastern Europe, based on a close alliance between Poland and Ukraine, with a combined population of 80 million, and a set of smaller members adding tens of millions more. Under Polish leadership, this could form the basis of a broader political and economic alliance in line with its ambition to establish a new Intermarium.

After a hiatus of more than 200 years, a formal alliance between the peoples of eastern Europe may once again be in sight and, as a product of this, an epochal change in the European geopolitical order as we know it.

engelsbergideas.com/essays/the-new-warsaw-pact/

pawian
15 Feb 2023  #714

I think that Poland should immediately discontinue its aid to Ukraine,

While we think Russia has to put an end to its brutal unjust war, withdraw from Ukrainian territory except Crimea, pay the reparations, send its war criminals to the Hague Tribunal.

If not, the Western sanctions clock will tick and tick and tick and tick ....... hahahahaha How long can Russia last with that timing????? :):):):)

Miloslaw
15 Feb 2023  #715

I think that Poland should immediately discontinue its aid to Ukraine, and try urgently to repair ties with Russia -

If you think that then you are either insane or massively deluded.

mafketis
16 Feb 2023  #716

you are either insane or massively delude

It's called narcissistic wound and almost all russians suffer from it. They're indoctrinated about how superior they are (language culture civilization) and how they bring light to savages (colonized peoples). It's this idea of superiority that allows them to think of themselves as a great power even as they live in garbage and violence.

Now they can't even beat the hohols and everyone likes the hohols better than them and they're freaking out more than ever.

And then.... they find out no one really admires them (or even likes) them.

It's unbearable cognitive dissonance.

When discussing their country they never discuss reality of the moment but some weird idea of a glorious past or clearly insane ideas to distract people from the pathetic reality.

Best policy: disengage and ignore

PolAmKrakow
16 Feb 2023  #717

they never discuss reality of the moment but some weird idea of a glorious past

This is exactly what Russia is and does. Yet, other than putting a man into space first, Russia has done absolutely nothing of significance that leads the world in a positive manner. All the yapping about what Poland should do, and complicated history is Russians lying to themselves. The whole culture is built on lies, and they believe their own lies. It is pitiful. Like a dog that is suffering from rabies it must finally be put down before it bites and infects someone or something else.

Crnogorac3
16 Feb 2023  #718

t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/20855

Crnogorac3
16 Feb 2023  #719

jew = liar

LYING TWO-BIT TERRORIST ZELENSKY WAS ELECTED ON AN ANTI-WAR PLATFORM

He formed an anti-war foil to the pro-war Poroshenko ticket and was elected because of it. But clearly it was all gaslighting and deception

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/LkZTpTwq4RsL/

mafketis
16 Feb 2023  #720

more primitive savagery from russia where attempts at normal family relations can get you killed!

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1625993900878925825

What a dysfunctional mess.... pathetic.... why russians don't just spontaneously combust from shame is something I'll never understand....


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