Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

Today, children, we will learn the meaning and proper use of "irony".

Irony - a Chinese laser - developed with American money - shooting down American planes.

It does not get any more grotesque.

Wrong, genius, because we and our grandchildren will have to service that debt. It's called "paying interest" - for fu*cking ever since it will never be paid off, as you have noticed so brilliantly..

There is nothing imaginary about this process that will lead to the spiral of death by a runaway debt.

@Novichok
Wrong genius. Since the national debt and the interest being charged is coming from the Fed, the Government will eventually walk back these debts. Its the biggest pyramid scheme in history. The US will file bankruptcy before it pays off money owed to China. Such patriotic words from the lead Putinazi is hilarious though. Attach some laser beams to some sharks big fella.

Now the Wagner group is openly complaining about shortages of weapons and ammunition. Crazy I know.

On the contrary as only a full blown Liberal would come up with such a conclusion.
(Like the student loans, borrow with no intentions of ever paying it back which increases the price of college for the honest people.)
Typical Liberal train of thought.


Novi, this is what thee Democrats do, spend other peoples money and justify it with such illogical b.s. like PolAm just did by trying to sugar coat shlt.


Are you sure it wasn't biden's double ?

@johnny reb
You are in need of medication. I am the furthest from a liberal. Then once medicated please go get an education on commerce and banking. And WTF is this "(Like the student loans, borrow with no intentions of ever paying it back which increases the price of college for the honest people.)" Thats not a comment on the cost of education? If the cost of a loan is not the cost of education then the cost of a pig is not the cost of a pork chop.

@Bobko
Most intelligent post you have made. Sorry, I didnt want to actually be specific and spend time explaining, but you did a great job.

Meanwhile, it turns out that Moscow knew Biden was going to Ukraine hours ahead of time and did nothing. If Putin was a real leader, real ruthless and real hard, he would have bombed the $hit out of Kiev. But he didn't, and he is not. And now every Russian knows he is not about to start WW3, he is a biatch waiting for other people to say they have had enough.

And US administration probably informed the Russians much earlier so they didn't make a mistake that could provoke WW3.

A few hours earlier. That sent shivers down the Russian spine - if Biden accidentally had fallen down the stairs and got hurt, Russians would have been blamed for that and for starting WW3.

It would be mistake to kill Biden - it will be quite expensive and time consuming to make so many harm to potential opponent as done by Biden at daily basis. ;)

Hahahaha!

As if Russians were even capable of that!
You Russians really live in a dreamworld!

Now, pack your bags and go to fight in Ukraine, like a good Russian idiot.....

Quoting from the Post:

unherd.com/thepost/western-public-support-for-ukraine-is-falling/

Western public support for Ukraine is falling
New polls show that war fatigue may be setting in

...including PF. We are getting both tired and bored. Continuing with a comment by a reader:

For Europeans, the reality of a prolonged war is setting in. They are continually being asked to house many Ukrainian refugees which will inevitably create some social tensions. They are also feeling the ongoing cost of this war more directly than Americans. And I think there is a growing sense that the Americans are playing their own geopolitical game in which all of Europe is a pawn.

...aka useful idiots. Especially Poland, a country that is in the process of committing suicide to feel good for a while and prolonging the war at the same time. It doesn't get any more stupid.

Short version: Hey, Euro morons, the US globalists and the fossil are using you. They even blew up that pipe to make a buck...hahahahahahaha...

The real sad part is if Trump would have stayed the acting President, Putin would have never invaded Ukraine.

The US and Russia should be allies just as they used to be way back and still are now in space. Z is as relevant to us as farting cows in Kazakhstan.

Quoting.
In a tweet, Taylor Green, Georgia Representative, wrote, "Biden didn't go to East Palestine, Ohio on President's Day.
He went to Ukraine, a NON-NATO nation, whose leader is an actor and is apparently now commanding our United States military to world war."
She concluded, "We must impeach this America Last fool before it's too late."

@johnny reb

That is the space laser nutcase right?

Yeah putain! Kill those hohols! Kill every last stinkin' one of 'em!

She might not realize that's what she wrote, but..... that's what she wrote.

Ronald Reagan was an actor. He would also have visted Ukraine if he was in charge.

PolAms who oppose Biden for doing this, now show how little they know or care about Poland

While retards in Chicago are screaming for lasers to be installed on the backs of sharks and asking for one million dollars, the real war was taking place in Ukraine.

Now the head of the Wagner group is going public with his statements regarding a lack of ammunition and other weapons. Stating that even he with all his connections, can not solve these problems. Funny, how when the west says they are running out of ammo, the useless idiots in PF who support the Orcs deny that its happening, one of the Orc leaders says that it is happening. Imagine the US saying Russia would invade and then it happened. Imagine the US saying the Russians were running out of things and then it happened. Crazy isn't it?

The Chinks are going to start supplying Putin with more weapons now. You might want to move back home. That's if the EU would ever do something about it.

How much money has the EU/NATO contributed compared to Bidens reckless spending to no avail ?

As long as America is flipping the bill the EU will do the bare minimum as always.

Another world war is beginning in Europe... It comes to no surprise. They started all of them bc they have never been able to get along with one another.

@Joker
The Chinks might try to supply Russia with technology, not ammunition. Tech would be a big deal though and would allow the Orcs to build missiles. Then the US would put sanctions on China and huge taxes on everything Chinese heading into the US, which would cripple China in less than 30 days. Without the US consumer China is nothing.

Bidens spending is not reckless when it protects US interests. Rebuilding Ukraine will cost hundreds of billions, and just how much of that will the US and US companies get? Spending in the MIC is creating jobs in the US by the way. These two positive results while protecting democracy in Europe is pretty wise, even if it happened by accident with sleepy Joe.

Blinken and Borrell told China to be very careful about supplying ammunition and weapons to Russia. Thankfully the reply did not take long to materialize.

If we could not close our artillery shell gap alone, then with China's factories aiding us we'll flood the battlefield with fire.

Chi­na's For­eign Min­istry on Mon­day hit back at the U.S. al­le­ga­tions. "It's the U.S. side, not the Chi­nese side, that's pro­vid­ing an end­less flow of weapons," For­eign Min­istry spokesman Wang Wen­bin said at a press brief­ing. "The U.S. side isn't qual­i­fied to point fin­gers at China or or­der China around, and we never ac­cept the U.S. crit­i­ciz­ing Sino-Russ­ian re­la­tions."

Source: wsj.com/articles/in-china-worries-about-a-weakened-russia-prompt-a-rethink-dd1a04e5

China's too foreign policy official is in Moscow right now. Let's see what happens over the following weeks and months.

Another pithy quote from the Chinese foreign ministry:

"We do not add fuel to the fire, and we're against reaping benefits from this crisis. Some forces might not want to see peace talks to materialize. They don't care about the life and death of Ukrainians, nor the harm on Europe. They might have strategic goals larger than Ukraine itself. This warfare must not continue," Wang said.

"Who is calling for dialogue and peace? And who is handing out knives and encouraging confrontation? The international community can see clearly."

Source: amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/20/china/ukraine-china-russia-biden-wang-yi-analysis-intl-hnk/index.html

I'm so glad the Chinese told the epic hypocrites from the State Department, where they can stick their threats to sanction China. If then follow PAK's genius idea of a 50% tariff, enjoy inflation like your grandparents experienced in the 1920s.

Don`t be silly. Then China will be flooded with Western sanctions like Russia. It is quite visible the Chinese are reluctant to get involved in the Russian mire.


Russia. If Russians stop the war and withdraw, there will be no confrontation. Ukrainians keep Eastern Ukraine while Russians keep the demilitarised Crimea. Simple.
While the sanctions clock is ticking and ticking and ticking..... hahahahaha

Yes they are reluctant. We need America and the EU to continue acting completely blind to how the rest of the world perceives this, continue to be arrogant, and issue a few more "warnings" and "threats" to China. Eventually, even their oriental patience will burst, and they will commit to helping us on the level the West supports Ukraine (hopefully more).

Also, less visible in the news, but India and South Africa have started to support us more openly. Brazil and Argentina have also recently refused to participate in any aid to Ukraine (Brazil has a ton of Leopards). There are still sane countries in the world.

Which have been working fine so far. China won`t go against the West and fully support Russia with ammo and weapons or other military technology.


Stop daydreaming. :):):):) You are playing games like a child now. :):):)

Oh, yes, the Brazilian refusal to help Ukraine is a major aid to Russia due to which Russians will surely win the unjust war. hahahaha

Are you drunk at 3am??? hahahaha

Certainly a greater aid to Russia, then the damage to us from their European cousin's 3 tanks being sent to Ukraine (mean Portugal). Brazil has 250+ Leopards. So yes, their position is important to us.


Smart people, writing in the Wall Street Journal, after having interviewed Chinese foreign policy insiders, are saying that China does not want to see Russia lose this war and is tired of American hypocrisy. Pawian says "stop daydreaming".

Nobody expects Brazil to send tanks. They are not in NATO so they need them.


Not wanting sth and being tired of sth doesn`t mean the Chinese military aid to Russia yet. :):):) The Chinese fear being tired of much more acute problems, namely sanctions on their economy. hahahaha

"stop daydreaming".

Yes, coz your wishful thinking is really Out of Place, Out of Time.

Ok, here is what is written, black on white:

" Some for­eign-pol­icy strate­gists in Bei­jing have raised the ques­tion of whether China should con­sider pro­vid­ing mil­i­tary sup­port to Rus­sia for de­fen­sive pur­poses-a sce­nario they say could sig­nif­i­cantly in­crease the costs of the con­flict. That, in turn, could give China some lever­age in propos­ing op­tions to end the con­flict. [...]

A di­min­ished Russ­ian power gives China an up­per hand in the bi­lat­eral re­la­tion­ship, po­ten­tially lead­ing to more fa­vor­able deals, in­clud­ing for en­ergy, for Bei­jing. None-theless, the peo­ple close to Chi­nese de­ci­sion-mak­ing said, Mr. Xi has lit­tle in­ter­est in see­ing Mos­cow and his coun­ter­part, Vladimir Putin, emerge from the war se­verely crip­pled."

Source: wsj.com/articles/in-china-worries-about-a-weakened-russia-prompt-a-rethink-dd1a04e5

I apologize for the block quote, but Pawian may not understand otherwise.

So you see, the Chinese are clever. They will propose a peace plan. The West will sh!t on it. China will say, "OK, we see how it is. We will just play by the same rules. You help your friends - we help our friends." Give Russia enough weapons to start seriously threatening a Ukrainian collapse, and then suddenly everyone goes to Beijing to mediate. Smart. Really smart.

quote=pawian]Nobody expects Brazil to send tanks. They are not in NATO so they need them.[/quote]
For protection from what? Zee Germans?

@Bobko
And now you show your complete ignorance to US/China trade history. The mere threat of sanctions, or additional tariffs, not only has brought China in line in the past, but it will hold them in line. Cutting off China would do nothing for inflation in the US or Europe. Taiwan and Japan have electronics and soft good covered. The largest Chinese export to the US is aluminum, and cutting that off will spur recycling. China is not a need for the US, the US is a need for China. Without the US consumer, China is a nothing state with a population decline that will lead to a collapse in about 10 to 15 years. Xi and the boys can talk tough, but that talk is cheap.

Don`t be silly. Every army needs tanks in case of a civil war incited by mad populists who lose power in democratic elections.


Let`s wait and see if that happens. :):):)


Yes, India increased the import of Russian oil and steel at dumping prices. Indians have bought 280.000 tons of steel since last April. This will hugely contribute to Russian victory in the war. hahahaha

Another economist... Yes it will help us win the war. To explain this concept to you, I will use the analogy of Azov Steel. Ukraine's ability to win the war was HURT through losing Azov Steel.

But... Azov Steel did not produce weapons, and Ukraine has no military industry remaining that would require steel? How does it help them then, are you stupid Bobko? Doesn't Ukraine just need Western help to breathe and move and perform other vital functions? I don't know - guess so.

Pawian for Minister of Economy of Ukraine! Stop all exports - RETARDS! You think your silly exports will help you win the war?