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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



cms neuf
23 Mar 2023  #1921

It's not just reparations - Muscovite POWs will be rebuilding Ukraine well into the 2030s. A lot of them will be in late middle age before they get to visit Moscow's 24 hour sushi bars again

Barney
23 Mar 2023  #1922

@cms neuf
In this scenario they would have to be paid

cms neuf
23 Mar 2023  #1923

I am sure that the west can scrape together enough for a cigarette ration and a few tins of sprats for these rapist thieves. They can also be paid a Ukrainian minimum wage but with a deduction for stolen fridges.

Korvinus
23 Mar 2023  #1924

The use of Depleted Uranium is an environmental catastrophe.

Eh uranium just has a bad reputation but its not that dangerous, especially since we are talking here less than 1% pure.

Never thought you of being a leftist environmentalist crazie hippie!

jon357
23 Mar 2023  #1925

its not that dangerous

There's more radiation from living in some cities with granite buildings than there is from depleted uranium shells.

n this scenario they would have to be paid

Nowadays there may be a case, however Muscovy certainly didn't pay the German POWs who were kept there into the 1950s repairing the damage they'd done.

Velund
23 Mar 2023  #1926

especially since we are talking here less than 1% pure.

It is 100% pure. It is depleted by isotope 235 content below 1%, but this decreases just radioactivity, not chemical toxicity.

There's more radiation from living in some cities with granite buildings than there is from depleted uranium shells.

Radioactive deposits in granite is not dispersed to nanoparticles by explosive and does not inhaled constantly directly into lungs.

Korvinus
23 Mar 2023  #1927

but this decreases just radioactivity, not chemical toxicity

It's funny how Russians are suddenly worried about health of Ukrainians. If you're so worried maybe stop shooting them?
Suddenly there's tons of concern trolling about the health of the land and the people there, you know, after aggressively invading and turning it into a bombed out ww1 tier sh*ithole covered in unexploded ordnance that is 10x more dangerous than depleted uranium ammunition.

Tacitus
23 Mar 2023  #1928

certainly didn't pay the German POWs

We are not Stalin's Russia.

decades of consequences

I was refering to the diplomatic consequences. It will take Russia decades and a lot of effort to regain the trust of the other European countries.

Economically it will be much worse. Russia already had an increasingly outdated model as the worlds' gas station. Now the ressources it should have invested into deversifying the economy instead goes into a needless and costly war.

The only way this war could have amounted to anything but a Pyrrhic victory for Russia was a swift conquest of Kiev within days. Now Russia is daily bleeding money, weapons and lifes with prospect of recuperating the losses.

Velund
23 Mar 2023  #1929

worried about health of Ukrainians

We worry about Donbass population, regardless of self-identification (Russians, Malorossians (Ukrainians), Jews, Serbians - there is a lot of nationalities living there historically, not just freshly arrived galician/canadian scum).

Here the idea of precision justice is becoming increasingly popular. In the case of the use of shells with uranium on Russian soil, precisely measured amounts of depleted uranium oxide corresponding to the uranium content of the supplied shells are packaged in capsules and placed together with a sputtering explosive charge in the warheads of "Dagger" missiles. The missiles deliver this gift to a height of 100 meters above the City of London and Buckingham Palace and detonate the charges. No one walks away disappointed...

Barney
23 Mar 2023  #1930

@cms neuf
Your comment doesnt strike you as odd particluarly when objecting to the war on many levels including human rights standards.

@jon357
I thought you didnt like "whataboutery"

jon357
23 Mar 2023  #1931

does not inhaled

Is not inhaled.

And no, it's not more dangerous.

Is the white phosphor that Muscovites use to burn children to death dangerous?

We are not Stalin's Russia.

Muscovy believes in revenge and violence. The rest of us are more civilised.

and Buckingham Palace

If you want your major cities to be under s metre of glass.

Korvinus
23 Mar 2023  #1932

We worry about Donbass population

When you're attacked in your own home, you have no choice but to fight back. Russians captured Crimea easily and parts of Donbass with relative ease, but they just couldn't stop there. No, they had to go for the full prize, pushed by Putin's delusions. And so,they forced Ukraine to show them, how it can fight. That's a self-inflicted wound on Kremlin's part.

Velund
23 Mar 2023  #1933

And no, it's not more dangerous.

Then why Korvinus is so much nervous about delivering the same to London?

When you're attacked in your own home, you have no choice but to fight back.

This is exactly about population of Donbass, predominantly Russian.

mafketis
23 Mar 2023  #1934

predominantly Russian.

formerlyh russian-speaking and russian-speaking =/= russian

russia has done more to promote the use of Ukrainian in the last year than all the Ukrainian governments since 1991 put together

putain is the father of modern Ukrainian nationalism... an accomplishment, for sure.

Velund
23 Mar 2023  #1935

formerlyh russian-speaking and russian-speaking =/= russian

You have to decide for yourself about your polishness, and you are not welcome into someone's else self-determination, either national or sexual.

jon357
23 Mar 2023  #1936

Then why Korvinus is so much nervous

So nervous?

He isn't, and you can't anyroads.

formerly russian-speaking and russian-speaking =/= russian

This.

And in any case, many there speak Surzhyk which is not r*SSian.

There's a heck of a lot of Ukrainians who don't speak anything other than the orc language but hate Muscovy with a passion.

Kashub1410
23 Mar 2023  #1937

@Velund
Out of my understanding Russian secret services forced Russian military to perform artillery strikes on Donbas region to begin this whole mess. Most Russian military knows about this plot most likely (which is why it's so resignated about all this) and has men reporting it and deserting.

Very similar to how it began in 1939 with radio station in Gliwice.

Do I have to remind you of Putins background? Why he is paranoid about the west? (It has been a must for him from his line of work, to predict every possible worst case scenario, and counter act on it).

Ukraine has it's faults (just as Polish second republic post ww1), but to expect Ukrainian nationalists to shoot themselves in the foot like bombing Donbas... I mean, really? You really think that?

Last thing Ukrainians need (no matter political spectrum) to become a war zone.

Just look up Ukraines history, I think it's one of the least likely nations on earth wanting to become a war zone...

mafketis
23 Mar 2023  #1938

have to decide for yourself about your polishness

No I don't. I'm not Polish. See? Easy.

Now filthy russians need to stop defiling Ukraine with their presence.

PolAmKrakow
23 Mar 2023  #1939

And now it looks like the Wagners will be heading back to Africa where they can make money instead of being wiped out in Bakhmut. Such a pity, that the only force with any success will be reduced or completely abandon Ukraine. Then its only the regular Orcs that need to be killed, and we already know how incompetent they are. LMAO

jon357
23 Mar 2023  #1940

it looks like the Wagners will be heading back to Africa

We don't want them back here.

They've a base in the next town to me which is better than having them in the hotel I start in here.

instead of being wiped out in Bakhm

So many of them already have.

I'd have liked to be a fly on the wall when Xi Jumping was there. It's not going well for Muscovy at all

Novichok
23 Mar 2023  #1941

We should have a separate sub-thread for the Russians and the Americans here so I wouldn't have to look for their posts.

Novichok
23 Mar 2023  #1942

Those incompetent "barbarians". Hey, Russia, it's really embarrassing...Quoting:

The cost of Putin's invasion: Ukraine will need £335 BILLION to rebuild Russian destruction, has seen 9,655 civilians killed and two million homes damaged, World Bank reveals.

For the morons here, World Bank is not in Moscow so you can exhale.

WTF...9655 dead civilians? That's it??? The US government kills 100,000 every year by keeping the border open to allow the hordes to taste "democracy" and all you, stupid Russians, can manage is just 9655? Don't you have any napalm, FPS? Or at least cluster bombs?

Tacitus
23 Mar 2023  #1943

@Novichok

You made that point some time ago and it was pointed out to you that this does not the victims in cities occupied by Russia like Mariupol.

You may be unable to change your mind, but even you should realize the futility of repeating debunked arguments.

Novichok
23 Mar 2023  #1944

should realize the futility of repeating debunked arguments.

World Bank is not a debunked argument. If you want to argue with them...go ahead.

You could at least give credit to the Western democracies for napalm, cluster bombs, and depleted uranium. Aren't those cool?

cms neuf
23 Mar 2023  #1945

They are certainly more effective than WW1 Mausers, WW2 tanks and NapoleonicWar tactics.

Muscovy's army is a massive joke

GefreiterKania
23 Mar 2023  #1946

Slovakia has already transferred the first 4 MiG-29s to Ukraine, 9 more planes will follow in the coming weeks...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/zagranica/news-cztery-slowackie-mysliwce-mig-29-juz-w-ukrainie-kolejne-wkro,nId,6673197

... Slovak and Polish MiGs will come in handy when the massive Ukrainian offensive starts rolling in spring.

Bratwurst Boy
23 Mar 2023  #1947

Mr. Medvedev: If Germany decides to arrest Putin, Russia will consider it a declaration of war

vietnam.postsen.com/news/272209/Mr-Medvedev-If-Germany-decides-to-arrest-Putin-Russia-will-consider-it-a-declaration-of-war.html

"Imagine, the incumbent head of a nuclear state comes to German territory and is arrested. What does this mean? Is a declaration of war on Russia," said Deputy Chairman of the Russian National Security Council Dmitry. Medvedev spoke on March 22 to national media, including Sputnik.

Medvedev further warned that, if that scenario happened, Russia would use all available means to target Germany, the office of the German chancellor and other targets. ....


Why....is he coming???

Novichok
23 Mar 2023  #1948

Slovakia has already transferred the first 4 MiG-29s to Ukraine, 9 more planes will follow in the coming weeks...

I am so pleased to know that the war will last longer, and US MIC will get fatter and happily share profits with US taxpayers like me.

BTW, if you for a second believe that C, D, and L will ever be separated from Russia, I have a bridge in NY on sale today.

In this context, what's the true purpose of sending those Migs?

mafketis
23 Mar 2023  #1949

I am so pleased

Eat your heart out you old misery guts (do people still say that?)

Try to say something constructive for a change.

GefreiterKania
23 Mar 2023  #1950

what's the true purpose of sending those Migs?

To provide some extra air support for the coming massive Ukrainian spring offensive.

if you for a second believe that C, D, and L will ever be separated from Russia

They most certainly will be. Ukrainian army is going to burst into C, D and L like a bulldog into a hen house.

watch this space


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