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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



mafketis
22 Mar 2023  #1891

Are we to blame?

Germany trusted russia.... always an incredibly stupid thing to do. russia has no honor and honors no agreement it makes. German insistence in trusting russia (esp after Crimea) and going ahead with NS2 helped convince putain that he wouldn't face serious consequences if he invaded Ukraine.

Also, interesting: russia is not a "great power"

twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1638505904894099456

PolAmKrakow
22 Mar 2023  #1892

@Bobko
Russia was Europe's ticket to slavery not sovereignty. Slavery to Orc oil and gas. Now that is gone for good. Russia will remain a pariah for decades. Russian people will suffer because little Vlad is delusional. Fvck Minsk II and fvck any agreement that gives Russia anything. It is the new version of Nazi central. A cult of personality and no regard for human life. Ukraine was seen as the Russian version of Lebensraum. And like the Nazi's the Orcs will be wasted on the battlefield. Ukraine will be rebuilt on Russian money, and little Vlad will go down in history next to Hitler and be remembered as the biggest failure in modern Russian history. Little Vlad is making Yeltsin look like a capable leader. lol

Novichok
22 Mar 2023  #1893

The US - warmongers
The UK - US lackeys
Ukraine - useful idiots
Poland - as stupid as always
Objective - weaken Russia and intimidate China

Memo to Euro bootlickers: This video is from the UK.

youtu.be/QSgC74rmfm8

Alien
22 Mar 2023  #1894

The US - reliable
The UK - true friend (even after Brexit )
Ukraine - Heroes
Poland - proud nation
russia - no comments

jon357
22 Mar 2023  #1895

Very good news about the UK supplying new artillery to Ukraine. The Muscovites are melting down because it's tipped with depleted Uranium. They conveniently forget that they've been using white phosphor bombs to burn civilians alive and thermobaric weapons, including on a theatre with "Children Here" painted on the roof.

An interesting and unscheduled visit to the troops in Rzeszow today too.

PolAmKrakow
22 Mar 2023  #1896

@Novichok
The US - the only world super power
The UK - reliable and resourceful
Ukraine - fearless
Poland - wise
Objective - weaken Russia and intimidate China - closer to completion every day

Memo to Putinazi coxuckers: Vlad says thanks and don't neglect the balls.

Novichok
22 Mar 2023  #1897

The US - a peace-loving country that found enemies to shoot and kill in 72 countries since 1945 and has been in a state of war for 92% of its existence.

After losing to the Taliban, it's Ukraine's turn.

Ukraine - Heroes

...who lost 90% of their GNP... and 10 million of its citizens who are not coming back because they are not stupid. Poland is.

Velund
22 Mar 2023  #1898

At least they are not invading us or threatening us with nuclear annihilation.

As to Germany - they still not left after previous invasion, and annihilated German industry economically by removing available cheap energy sources.

Novichok
22 Mar 2023  #1899

...and annihilated German industry economically by ...

...blowing up the pipe. No, it was not Putin who did it.

The US - ripping off US taxpayers
The UK - reliable US ass-licker
Ukraine - US useful idiots 1
Poland - US useful idiots 2

cms neuf
22 Mar 2023  #1900

So I see now that all of the grateful citizens of Mariupol have been identified as members of Putin's security team. Also when they had a visit from Xi, arguably one of the top 20 world leaders, Putin sent his sports minister to meet him because he is too scared to leave the house in daylight

Tacitus
22 Mar 2023  #1901

they still not left

Because we do not want them to. It may be difficult to understand for Russians, but military presence in foreign countries does not always have to be hostile and under pressure. Lithuania is currently requesting the same from us.

by removing available cheap energy sources.

That one is 100% on you. We convinced Biden to not implement sanctions against NS II. We could have kept trading with mutual benefit but your wannabe tzar just had to destroy the post war order upon which our relations waa built and prove all those right who had been highly critical of Russia.

It sucks for all, but for Russia most of all. Ukraine at least has the prospect of a better future in form of joining the EU to cling to. All that awaits Russia is a defeat in Ukraine, an inevitable loss of influence and prestige and long-lasting economic and demographic decline.

Novichok
22 Mar 2023  #1902

Quoting:

Prince William thanks British troops for 'defending our freedoms' as he makes surprise visit to Poland just miles from the Ukrainian border

What "freedoms", a-hole? The same freedoms your goons defended in Iraq or some other freedoms?

cms neuf
22 Mar 2023  #1903

Well in Britain they have the freedom to hold their leaders accountable for crimes - it is happening today.

Which one of Russia's thieving ruling class ever raised his voice to Putin ?

pawian
22 Mar 2023  #1904

Poland - US

That`s in our genes. We suck it with our mums` milk that we need to reject Russian imperialism. Why do you blame us??? It is not fair. You never blame Russians for their DNA like utter fear of their regimes etc, but you always blame Polish DNA of being freedom fighters. Ha!!!

Accept us the same as you do with Russians.

Velund
22 Mar 2023  #1905

tzar just had to destroy the post war order

Do you really believe that it was Putin who break Yalta configuration and destroyed Warsaw Pact (that was side product of Yalta-induced division of Europe to "security zones")? ;)

We suck it with our mums` milk

Probably it is hard to have a english-speaking mum that have only one unusually long tit and in not so typical place. ;)

Novichok
23 Mar 2023  #1906

Hey, Polish Russia haters, did you know that Poland's trade with Russia actually INCREASED in 2022? Poland just happens to be the third biggest Euro exporter to Russia with 5 billion dollars worth of exports in that year. Only Germany and Italy exported more.

Yes, dear Poles, your hypocrite Moronowski said that the last round of sanctions was "too weak".

And that Russian oil ... This is funny so read on....hahahahaha...According to Bloomberg - that Kremlin propaganda outlet - "no signs of Russian oil production cut". I guess cold winters don't help to get re-elected.

One more thing...Russia's gold holdings went up by one million troy ounces in 2022.
Since Ukraine is winning, they must be gold plating their Polish Mig-29s and Leopards. Lucky guys...

Novichok
23 Mar 2023  #1907

I am relieved that the cluster bombs four RINOs urged Biden to use in Ukraine and the cancer-causing depleted uranium the British bastards are planning to send there are not war crimes but taking kids to safety is.

Quoting the Guardian:

These weapons have had terrible health ramifications for Iraqi civilians," he said. "The least the US could do is provide the specific targeting data so the Iraqi government can begin the complex clean-up process."

The US Department of Defence did not respond to a request to comment. One military source was "amazed" that the Dutch government had released sensitive targeting data.


Novichok
23 Mar 2023  #1908

Quoting:

Google Depleted Uranium Babies and be ready to cry...The use of Depleted Uranium is an environmental catastrophe. Since its first use in 1991, Iraqi babies have had a stillborn rate of one out of every eight. And many of those that survive have MASSIVE BIRTH-DEFFECTS. The US & UK want to contaminate all of Russia & Ukraine.

Western "democracies" - the real evil that is still shocked by 9/11.

PolAmKrakow
23 Mar 2023  #1909

Now the great and all knowing Novi cares about children? Oh my. But all the children killed in Ukraine do not matter? All the Ukraine children kidnapped by Russia do not matter? I think I remember things being said like "babies die", or "babies get killed" as if it does not matter in war when he decides it to be so. But now that he can blame the US and UK artillery for camel jockey children's deaths, it is so convenient to blame the west. Of course, this is at a time when Novi is seeking investors to build a state of the art bull$hit detector, and he has detailed information on how it works based on his self testing.

When a country with millions of acres of unmined gold fields increases its holdings internally, it really isn't a shock. It should be seen as finally meeting decades of expectations. I wonder how many millions of ounces were stolen from those mines. And lets not forget, Africa has been paying for weapons with their gold being mined by hand, by children in many cases. You know, because Novi cares about the children now.

jon357
23 Mar 2023  #1910

raq

Iraq

Muscovy supporters always try to bring up Iraq as a distraction technique. The reality is that the two situations are entirely unrelated. Of course they avoid Chechnya like the plague.

These weapons have had terrible health ramifications for ..... civilians,

And white phosphor and thermobaric weapons used by Putler haven't?

jon357
23 Mar 2023  #1911

Are you saying

Are we talking about other wars on other continents? No.

. it is not directly relevant to the current conflict

It isn't relevant at all. And it's not a 'conflict'; it is an illegal and unprovoked war agains a European democracy on a scale not seen since WWII.

your hypocrisy, which is ultimately what led to this conflict.

Al you know, what led to this terrible war, with its war crimes, its thermobaric weapons, its mass rapes (including of babies), its looting, its murder of civilians with bound hands, its abduction of children and every horror your country could unleash is one thing only: Muscovy's imperialism.

And you will lose.

Bobko
23 Mar 2023  #1912

And you will lose

and if we don't lose - what will happen then? Can you humor me with a hypothetical?

As I have repeated since Feb. 24th, 2022 - we will win this war. The reason is very simple: we care about this much more than you.

1) Did we expect it to last this long? No.
2) Did we expect it to cause such enormous casualties on both sides? No.
3) Did we expect the West to steal our accumulated savings? No.
4) Does any of the above change our calculus about starting the war? No.

We will still conclude this war on our terms, because for Russia it is about survival. For you it is just one of several games you have to play, and boredom is already settling in. Polish and Micro-Balt hysteria will of course remain, but normal countries will move on. Your elected officials and your press say as much. The basic refrain in the Western press is: "2023 will be a decisive year". Read: "we can't support Ukraine at this level of intensity for more than another year".

jon357
23 Mar 2023  #1913

and if we don't lose

You will.

Did we expect it to last this long? No

A three day 'special operation'.

Burble all you like. It's the endgame for Muscovy.

Tacitus
23 Mar 2023  #1914

Do you really believe that it was Putin

Of course. Putin has started the first war of agression and conventional lnd war in Europe. Without his decision, we would still be peacefully living and trading with each other.

After WWII it seemed like we had reached 2 concensus. 1) We sign contracts and keep them 2) We do not invade neighbours to redraw borders. Putin has annihilated both of them. Russia will feel the consequences for decades after he is gone.

mafketis
23 Mar 2023  #1915

we care about this much more than you.

translation: russians want to kill Ukrainians far more than other countries want to protect them....

russians on telegram howled with glee when a disabled little girl was killed in Vinnytsya... they howled with glee at the Turkish earthquake...

it's an entire culture based on bloodlust and rage....

horrific and inhuman

Bobko
23 Mar 2023  #1916

Russia will feel the consequences for decades after he is gone

Yes, just as West Germany has had to deal with decades of consequences for absorbing the DDR. Reconstructing Ukraine will certainly be a drag on our economy. However, in the end we would have gained millions of new compatriots, millions of hectares of the best agricultural land in the world, an entirely Russian Sea of Azov, and the lion's share of Europe's coal and iron ore reserves. These too, are "consequences" that we will have to deal with.

If you meant more negative consequences, then I'm sure it is your trauma speaking. Of course, if we were running the risk of losing a quarter of our territory, having our country split in two, having millions of our people deported through population transfers, and having a large portion of our female population raped by occupying forces - then we could sympathize with your point of view. However, those things cannot happen to Russia as they happened to Germany.

That happens to countries that:

A) Don't have nukes
B) Exterminated tens of millions of people in cold blood under the most disgusting regime in the history of our race

PolAmKrakow
23 Mar 2023  #1917

@Bobko
You hope the west will get bored and move on. Thats what you are wishing for. Wish in one hand and $hit in the other and see which fills up faster. The west is using this war to destroy Russia from within. Russia walked right into this and now little Vlad is $hitting himself about how badly he miscalculated. China? Rescue Russia? No fvcking way. China is waiting to do its land grab of Siberia. The whole world is waiting to pick off the bones of the Russian corpse.

Maybe we should talk about all the children Russia killed in Afghanistan? Or just keep on talking about the wests reactions to Saddam. As if Saddam would have given anything to his people to help them before helping himself. A madman. Then again, the same is true of Putin and his buddies. Only difference is skin color and location. All the same just another retard who came to power illegally and robbed his country. The fate of Saddam is waiting for him.

Kashub1410
23 Mar 2023  #1918

@Tacitus
Indeed, there was a lot of neighbouring countries to Russia that wanted payback for past grievences (including Poland) yet let it slide to agree with that consensus even knowing fully that Russians haven't agreed to it, nor believed Russians ever would limit themselves like that and got it hammered down by the west whenever it was mentioned.

Now Putin opened Pandora's box by invading a major European country under the pretext of switching it's government.

It's not 1945 anymore where most European states are tired and exhausted of a world war.

This triggered the potential for not only that Russia would invade other major European states, but also forces all major European states to decide wether to want to continue this consensus (practically being against Russia's invasion of Ukraine) or by aiding Russia as much as possible (caused by wanting to invade major European states themselves)

Which is why it has put Hungary and Serbia in a bad light in Europe, and also a little bit ridiculing cause they got no chance to invade any major European state.

However countries bordering Hungary and Serbia are certainly far more alert then before due to those actions.

So if a state like Spain suddenly would increase it's military, side with Russia diplomatically, then Portugal, France and Italy + Morocco would be highly alert about it.

Korvinus
23 Mar 2023  #1919

The reason is very simple: we care about this much more than you.

Why the fu*ck normal people should accept axis of evil ? You suffer an existence of psychopathic bully in your social circle because putting up a fight with him is not worth it, if you don't have to, but you do not accept his unique perspective on life while standing up and forcing him to back off when he bully someone more defenseless than you is a noble act.

jon357
23 Mar 2023  #1920

Reconstructing Ukraine will certainly be a drag on our econom

Yes. The reparations will cripple your economy for generations.

These too, are "consequences" that we will have to deal with.

Except of course you won't gain anything except vassal status to the Chinese.

the most disgusting regime in the history of our race

Which is why the UK and the US maintain a permanent military presence there. It's not just to protect against the threat of Muscovy. Germany has shown largely that it can behave and that they are now a civilised country. People don't hold such hopes for you


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