Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

@GefreiterKania
You have to understand that Velund just completed the new indoctrination course and thats why he has been gone for a bit. Said course included how to behead someone without ruining your recycled WW2 camo, and how to cook a can of beans on a burning tank. This is new required training for Russians as they are preparing all of society for when they may all be cooking on top of their own exploded tanks. Wise training indeed.

@Velund
Actually, it is Russia that is wholely and completely owned by the US. Little Vlad and all you little putinazi's are so jealous of the success that western people have and the comforts available to them you constantly scream into the abys "why not us". It has been going on for the last century. The answer is simple. Your people are incapable of escapiong their own culture built on lies and utter lack of accomplishment. Russia produces nothing other than oil and gas, nothing has come from Russia to positively impact the world. And this is why Russia is what it is. A toilet. Why is it so many Russians have moved to the US since the 90's? Because its better. Simple. Jealousy runs rampant in Russia.

*nods sadly*

We still have a hard time believing what is happening....

@Bratwurst Boy
Short easy summarisation, U.S.A and Sovietunion secretly and informally decided to shape the globe to their liking between themselves post ww2.

Due to their rivalry they had their Cold War, which was fought out through various means. End goal was to keep the power between them, and avoid major large conflicts or nuclear anhiliation.

Theatrics ensued to keep it going, it was a fine arrangement between them two "devils"

One of gloryficating currency and technology, while other glorifying "goodness" and do evil so that "good" can triumph kind of attitude. Their own skewed version of good at the same time.

Both superpowers at the time ignored the type "soft power" various groups are able to push, to a large degree and merely saw it as a tool to be used (ideology, propaganda media etc)

Which is the viewpoint of cynicism, their issue is that most people despise cynicism and it came to such unbearable levels that it exploded in Poland during the 80's and was unhandled by U.S.A and the Sovietunion while experiencing economical issues at the same time.

While this was going on, European states grudgingly looked for alliance with U.S.A to counter communism, while also being grateful for U.S.A having somebody to counter instead of forcing their way of life upon European throats.

This all changed during the 90's and Russia, the "child" of the Sovietunion was left with the betrayal of this silent unspoken "collusion" with America and wants it returned back. Which is why we hear all about multi-polar world or two polar world and whatnot being "better" then U.S.A's uno power world.

And now we have Putin ruining it for Europe as a whole if the goal is to reach European independence, leadership and larger autonomy and freedom.

Which again will be rather hard due to Americans rightful viewpoint of Europeans starting wars *Russia cough cough*

So any European state without outside supervision is a rather silly notion, which Poland (but also Germany, considering WHY Germany came in to existence in the first place, yeah... I am looking at you France and Sweden)PERFECTLY understands to do experiencing those wars, a little bit "too much" -.-

The big elephant in the room here is that Europe just doesn't have the resources for independence, so we have to chose our "master"....and frankly I (and most Germans and I guess so do most Europeans) prefer the US to China!

@Kashub1410
Well said. Turning back the hands of time 70 years or so is not going to happen. China now has a part to play, and little Vlad knows China is the real danger for him.

@Bratwurst Boy
Also well said. The US is further away, than China from Europe, and is really not any type of threat to European life and values. Not enough Americans travel or emmigrate to have a real impact on Europe. Movies and television paint a distorted picture of the US that Europeans no longer believe in after visiting the US.

China is the one who is going to win this war. A weaker Russia, a new economy open to China in Ukraine rebuilding, and keeping the US at arms length a little longer while the world settles in. Then China will make the play for Siberia and Taiwan. I am not sold that it will be Taiwan first, there is less to gain there.

Meanwhile more Russian boys die in Ukraine, and Putin implements and electronic draft to keep anyone possible from leaving the country. All those great benefits of being a Russian male today. Happy gulag biatches!

What are Rusikies opinions on Trump basically saying that Putin was his little bi*tch?

I find it very true, P00tin only attacked after Imperator Trump was gone. Is Putin a sissy?

China won't have any part to play in rebuilding Ukraine - along with India, South Africa, Iran and a few others they have made their bed and can now lie in it

@cms neuf
Completely disagree. China needs to boost steel exports and cheap steel from China is faster to be received in reconstruction efforts in Ukraine than more expensive US steel. China needs an incentive to push little Vlad to end the war, and steel is that motivator.

Not just Ukraine, Germany and France being reliant on the Chinese market is also well known.
German trade with Russia almost halved by volume in 2022, the value of imports actually rose.
Last November Germany begged Xi Jinping to "use Chinese influence" on Putin to stop the Ukraine War.
The relationship between Germany and China is of immense importance to the Germany's manufacturing and its vast auto industry investments.
Without China, France's economy would collapse.


Exactly and not just steel, all of their cheap junk to undercut their competition.
If China conformed to environmental standards of the world like the U.S. does, their steel wouldn't be so cheap.


Don't think China won't be standing front in line to rebuild Ukraine, from materials to Chinese workers.

Too funny... the person behind the "donbass devushka" russian shill channel is not a russian jew at all but an all-American shiksa from Jersey....

what's more, "her Telegram channel was also one of the first places where the doctored leaks of Jack Teixeira were detected"...

see the whole thing.... fr1ckin' hilarious!

twitter.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1647199965540646913

What? Donbass Devushka was all the time some paid female troll from Jersey who lied about everything??? What an impudent b*tch!

russia can end it this minute by turning around and getting out of Ukraine.... so.... you're wrong, not _everybody_ wants to end this war, russia (in the form of tsar putain the first, wants to keep it going because if he doesn't the mob will start barking for his head....

I want to explain something to you....

By calling the Russian people orcs, slaves, serfs, biomass, etc you are actually helping Putin quite a bit. How so? Allow me to explain in one of my traditional bulleted lists:

1) If you are able to convince Russians that everybody hates them, they will leave in lesser numbers. Allowing the economy to function in a more smooth fashion, and making it easier to recruit for the military. Given our poor demographics, this could only be to our benefit.

2) As far as domestic politics are concerned, there is no better way to defang the Russian liberals. It's already easy enough to argue to them that, yes, perhaps you are right, but the West will punish you regardless, because you are dirty, smelly Russians. Wake up and support Putin!

3) For Putin it is absolutely wonderful, if every Russian feels that they are tainted with the same warmongering label. "We are all in this together", in other words. Even if you don't support the war, just open Twitter and see what Westerners write about you. There is collective guilt, collective responsibility. Just as Putin wants. So let's double down, good people, and win this war, because no one is waiting for you in the West.

In other words, please carry on as you were, dear colleagues.

Russia said 173 times that it would be delighted to do just that the minute Ukraine is neutral. Just to be sure you got it...Neutral, not part of Russia.

See how simple life can be, little boy, if you listen to both sides? You should try it one day and you will be amazed by the results.

You may even start liking Bobko and Velund more than you like PAK.


That sentence needs some editing...Here is an improved version:

In other words, please carry on as you were, Russia-hating morons.

There...much better.

@Bobko
Thats the thing Boko, no one GAF how Russians or Putin feels. Band together, embrace the struggle. Its idiot nation. How many times are Russians going to use the same old bull$hit and get away with it? Really, in NYC you know that other than Brighton Beech no one GAF about Russia. All most Americans know is that Russia is bad and they have an evil leader who has his finger on the button. Normal people see Russia as a lost cause that can not be helped until Putin and those like him are dead. Russian people do not deserve western comforts if they refuse to change their backward way of living. Stay to yourselves if thats what you want. Now kindly leave our country and go back to Russia.

Zelensky said that Ukraine will not be neutral. So, the only sure way to guarantee neutrality is to finish "Ukraine project" completely, without chances to restore.

But if Zelensky can change their mind (if there's some brains left under the cocaine crust) - Russia can reconsider their plans.

What America are you talking about? In the America I live in, a little bit less than half the people happen to have a positive view of Russia. Yes, they are mostly republicans, and just a small sliver of democrats. But it's the truth.

Your MSM has failed at convincing Americans that Russia is out to get them.

@Velund
The thing is, after the internal turmoils in Ukraine and obvious support of the tyrannical regime that was present during Ukraines lil maidan revolution and green men operation soon after. It's pretty obvious for any Ukrainian that "neutral" Ukraine would have to be pro-Russia informally.

That kind of possibility lost support year by year in Ukraine for every dead Ukrainian caused by Russian authorities.

So I don't know where you get this delusions or fantasies of Neutral Ukraine now being a possibility.

It beats Ułańskie fantazje to say the least.
You will be hard pressed to find any naive person believing that BS.

Excluding some forum members

And "neutral" Ukraine would have to be the same kind of undemocratic kleptocracy and economic basket case that russia is..... the threat isn't NATO (except for complete idiots) the threat is giving russians ideas that they don't have to put up with being killed and lied to and robbed by their bandit government.

Lots of Ukrainians have worked elsewhere (like Poland) and found that despite problems other places work better as societies than primitive russia does.

putain and his cronies/toadies are terrified of everyday russians realizing there are other options than being serfs....

So, OK. If Ukraine cannot be neutral, there will be no Ukraine anymore. Simple.

Try Sweden and Finland. That's where.
Just in case I am wrong, how many times did Russia attack either one since the end of WW2?
Now, the fantasy of neutral Ukraine is a sad reality: ruins, 200,000 dead, and 10,000,000 displaced - all for Z-P=0.

@Bratwurst Boy
Thing is Russians biggest beef with the west is the U.S administration and the beaurecracy leaders have little influence towards, they don't want anything similar in Russia, cause they see it as freedom to buy clerks so they get what they want

Brilliant, short, and to the point.

Shhhhh...

We don't want the West to construct an actually threatening policy towards Russia, that involved more than a handful of brain cells to formulate.

Just stick to "orcs" and "slaves", until this operation is wrapped up.

....but....Ukraine WAS NEUTRAL!

When this is over Ukraine won't be neutral anymore....on the line to be a member of NATO and EU!

It was until NATO invited Ukraine to be NATO in 2008. Why do you think the US organized that revolution in 2014? Because we didn't like their corruption or democracy?

Have some mercy on the poor Ukrainians. They suffered enough already.

.....frankly nobody cared about Ukrainians before Putin decided to invade...now it's on the global news map, which will make it so much harder for Moscow to play and influence and manipulate.

You know, that war is so not-smart on so many accounts!

So... genocide.... you want more beheadings and dead Ukrainian children and you wonder why normal people look down on russia....

NATO and the EU (despite their many faults) are about 100 times better than russia (where people are liable to be killed for pointing out the multitude of faults).

No one really believes the russians here are sincere, they're just afraid of windows....

Genocide is too expensive tactic. When Russia purchased modern Estonia and half of Latvia from Sweden in 1721, things was solved pretty fast without mass executions.