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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



Bratwurst Boy
19 Apr 2023  #2881

Kara-Murza provided assistance

Well....alot of statements....but talk is cheap as they say....even so, 25 years is a sentence for murder or something similiar, not for false information or being "undesirable"!

Bratwurst Boy
19 Apr 2023  #2882

....depends on which people get murdered...surely....

Novichok
19 Apr 2023  #2883

You agree with his 25 year sentence for speaking his mind ?

What sentence would you give a guy who decided to speak his mind and said this to a Russian commander:

There are X Uks at Y.

After you answer this, ask yourself how Uks would react to it.

Treason is not a parking violation.

According to the Russia-hating idiots, if treason is against Russia it's Nobel Peace Prize stuff.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Apr 2023  #2884

....is it truly treason against RUSSIA? Not rather treason against the ruling clique?

History books often see things differently than the current media....the hanged traitors against Hitler are seen as heroes now...funny thing!

cms neuf
19 Apr 2023  #2885

No essays, no talk about Texas or Trump - just a straight answer. Does opposing the war merit a 25 year sentence?

Bobko
19 Apr 2023  #2886

@cms neuf

Two Soviet jokes:

1) A group of convicts is having a discussion in their cell. One of them asks what another is doing time for.

A: I'm innocent. I did nothing at all, and they gave me ten years!

The man that asked the question, turns around to the others and says:

"He's full of sh!t. For nothing - you get a maximum of five years."

2) Three men are sitting in the depths of the KGB prison on Lubyanka Square. They begin sharing the story of their arrest:

Convict #1: I was imprisoned for writing in support of Karl Radek.

Convict #2: That's funny. I was imprisoned for speaking out against Karl Radek.

Convict #3: I am Karl Radek.

Novichok
19 Apr 2023  #2887

Does opposing the war merit a 25 year sentence?

If you oppose the war over coffee with Putin - no.

If you deliberately break laws to be a hero - yes.

I don't like many laws but still obey them.

Novichok
19 Apr 2023  #2888

That's how Western scum reports inconvenient facts:

An anti-war protester gets 25 years. That's the headline... At the bottom: The pro-war man he stabbed is likely to survive.

cms neuf
19 Apr 2023  #2889

Like almost all Poles I have relatives who were deported to Soviet prison camps. Appreciate the gallows humor but hope our friends and neighbors in Ukraine but all that in the past and look forward to a future of speaking their mind without being poisoned.

Novichok
19 Apr 2023  #2890

I have relatives who were deported to Soviet prison camps.

I had relatives who were deported to Auschwitz and never came back. So what? Should I go to Berlin to kill Germans?

cms neuf
19 Apr 2023  #2891

What does that have to do with the price of tinned sprats ? Is Germany putting people in jail for opposing war ? For 25 years ?

Do you agree with that 25 year sentence? No essays, just yes or no. It's a question about Muscovy, not about the US or Germany

Novichok
19 Apr 2023  #2892

I have relatives who were deported to Soviet prison camps.

What does that have to do with the price of tinned sprats

As much as the first quote above. Who gives a damn what the Soviets did way back? Do you want to go back to Lenin and Beria?

Do you agree with that 25-year sentence?

Show me the indictment and his defense and I will answer.
You asked, you produce. I have my own agenda.

Velund
19 Apr 2023  #2893

Like almost all Poles I have relatives who were deported to Soviet prison camps.

Ask for sympathy from the relatives of the 20 civilians who were in the basement of a building in Bakhmut that was blown up yesterday by the AFU while retreating.

cms neuf
19 Apr 2023  #2894

We give a damn because the Muscovites want to take Europe back to 1942 - they are even using rifles and tanks from that era as well as committing bestial atrocities

Anyway it's clear you do agree with the 25 year sentence so that tells us all we need to know about justice in Muscovy

Whatever you refer to Velund, it has not been in any reputable news sources, probably just made up by paid trolls.

Korvinus
19 Apr 2023  #2895

I don't like many laws but still obey them.

Putin can pass whatever he wants and say it's a law. But that doesn't make it morally right.

Velund
19 Apr 2023  #2896

We give a damn because the Muscovites want to take Europe back to 1942

You are wrong. We want to take Europe back to 1945.

Novichok
19 Apr 2023  #2897

Hey, cms, learn how to post coherent stuff and not what you pull out of your rectal opening. Like this:

We give a damn because the Muscovites want to take Europe back to 1942

and this:

Anyway it's clear you do agree with the 25 year sentence

No, it's not clear.

Novichok
19 Apr 2023  #2898

You are wrong. We want to take Europe back to 1945.

Perfect answer.

A question for you, Russia-hating idiots...

Hypothetically, start adding more countries near Russia to NATO and tell me when Russia should start being concerned.

BTW, take your "democratic" and "sovereign" countries and their rights bs and place them where it's very dark. It was the very democratic and sovereign US that killed millions for reasons even the US didn't understand.

pawian
19 Apr 2023  #2899

A question for you, Russia-hating idiots...

We can`t answer it coz we are no idiots. Rephrase your question, please.

We want to take Europe back to 1945.

Exactly. You want it. But nobody else in Europe does. That is why you are losing the dirty war and your economy is getting ruined every new day. Ha!

mafketis
19 Apr 2023  #2900

anti-war protester gets 25 years. That's the headline... At the bottom: The pro-war man he stabbed

Which case is this? Names? Dates?

Velund
19 Apr 2023  #2901

You want it. But nobody else in Europe does.

For many years Russia tried to find some mutually acceptable security configuration for Eurasia. Now negotiations is closed due to lack of agreement-worthy partners. Russia and China will decide what is acceptable for them, opinion of continental Europe doesn't really matter anymore.

pawian
19 Apr 2023  #2902

Russia and China will decide what is acceptable for them

Under Western sanctions and boycotte??? Good luck, my dreaming boy. hahahaha

by the AFU while retreating.

Stop lying. It is Russians who blow up civilians in their houses all over Ukraine!

Feniks
19 Apr 2023  #2903

No, it's not clear.

The lack of an answer to the contrary suggests that it's very clear indeed. Are you incapable of answering a simple question now?

Paulina
19 Apr 2023  #2904

Is Paulina's husband Ukrainian

You sad, sad fool... No, I don't have an Ukrainian husband lol *sigh* 🤦

You know, it's funny/tragic how chauvinistic nationalists in different countries are similar to each other. The RuSSian nationalists that I've discussed with in the past thought that my Russian friend from Moscow (and living in Moscow, not in Poland) must've had a Polish husband, because she was sympathetic towards Poles, our history, etc. and learned Polish (on her own). In reality her husband was RuSSian with German-Jewish roots and somewhat pro-Putin. She wrote to them about it and even gave her real name and the address of her workplace, in case they wanted to make sure that she's real and not some foreign "agent". I remember thinking that she was putting herself at risk in this way, because one of those nationalists could turn out to be some dangerous nutjob. After she wrote that info about herself, those men started "joking" that they should find her and rape her to teach her a lesson. I found that disgusting and f*cked up, but at that time I didn't realise how sinister those comments were. Now, after all what RuSSian soldiers did in Ukraine, I have a better idea :(

why are you so sympathetic to them so much?

After all those discussions on this forum, all those comments and explanations written and after spending 14 years on a forum about Poland you still don't understand?

pawian
19 Apr 2023  #2905

Should I go to Berlin to kill Germans?

You are being carried away. Who is killing Russians here?

mafketis
19 Apr 2023  #2906

ussia tried to find some mutually acceptable security configuration for Eurasia

For russia this means they wanted carte blanch to invade their neighbors... because russia is the worst neighbor country in the world and every country that borders it loathes it for very good reasons.... maybe stop trying to invade other countries and people won't hate you so much...

pathetic loser country, nasty and inferior and not even aware of it....

pawian
19 Apr 2023  #2907

to invade their neighbors.

This is what Russian foreign politics has consisted in. :):):)
It is so great that Europe under the honourable patronage of Mr President Biden`s admininstration has united as one against sick Russian imperialism.

Paulina
19 Apr 2023  #2908

We want to take Europe back to 1945.

Ah, you see, Novichok... It's not about NATO. Those psychos want to get back to the Soviet Union.

start adding more countries near Russia to NATO and tell me when Russia should start being concerned.

Never. NATO isn't RuSSia's enemy or a threat to RuSSia - it's RuSSia that behaves as if it was. NATO is getting bigger, because countries want to join in in order to be/feel safe, not to attack their neighbours.

No, I don't have an Ukrainian husband lol *sigh* 🤦

Btw, is this some kind of projection? Do you have a RuSSian wife, Crnogorac3?

Novichok
19 Apr 2023  #2909

NATO isn't RuSSia's enemy or a threat to RuSSia

That's not your decision.
Russia decided that it is and didn't keep it a secret. NATO decided to ignore it and Ukraine is now a pile of uninhabitable crap.

Conclusion: Ignoring what Putin and Russia say has consequences.
But, since Ukrainian refugees are an asset, I don't see why you should be upset. In fact, you should thank Russia and ask for more.

Miloslaw
19 Apr 2023  #2910

. NATO is getting bigger, because countries want to join in in order to be/feel safe, not to attack their neighbours.

And this is exactly the opposite of what Putin wanted.
He has failed!
In fact he has made matters even worse for Russia!

ignoring what Putin and Russia say has consequences

It does, but it still does not mean Russia will or can win this war.
We All know that the SAS and Delta Force are already in Ukraine.......Russia will lose this war, but at what cost?


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