Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

Ukraine is many times more important to Russia than Finland and Sweden in NATO combined.
Only idiots look at things as a single variable.

It's not about decisions, but about reality. If RuSSia isn't in touch with reality or Putin and his cronies decided to make it look like it isn't doesn't mean we have to endlessly adapt to their fantasies and cater to their real or pretended paranoia.


Invading your neighbours has consequences too. Long-lasting ones.


And by invading Ukraine RuSSia lost it, probably forever. Clearly Putin played it wrong.

Are you calling me.an idiot?

Russia knows it and decided to proceed anyway. Eat sh*it.
How are those 2 million refugees? Want more or are they no longer the asset some idiots here claimed they were...


Give me some credit...If I wanted to call you an idiot I would say, Milo, you are an idiot.
I never, ever imply. Only Polish cowards do or resort to metaphors.

So if it wasn't a metaphor.What was it?

It was a general comment and applicable to you only if you feel you are included.
Russia had a number of reasons to invade Ukraine. NATO moving toward Russia was one of them and very similar to North Korea moving closer to the US.

That comment sounds like a cop out to me.
Say what you mean in plain English.

Then RuSSia is stupid.


Around 1.3 million:

rmf24.pl/raporty/raport-wojna-z-rosja/news-uchodzcy-z-ukrainy-wiemy-ilu-dzis-mieszka-w-polsce,nId,6615401

Including around 200 000 Ukrainian kids learning in Polish schools, can you imagine? :))


RuSSia clearly has now a number of reasons to regret invading Ukraine.

Absolutely!!!!
Putin totally miscalculated and it will cost him and maybe Russia dear.

I think so too

Will it make Russia weaker?

A reader's comment worth posting here:

The UK no longer hides its hatred for Russia. It hates it even more now because Russia's economy has survived the massive sanctions and stood dignified in front of the insults and vilification from the Brits. They can't bear to see Russia winning not only militarily but also in public opinion despite the severe censorship of anything sensible and convincing that the Russians can say.

Obviously, the British leadership is wary that the Brits who are not as paralyzed as the Germans may change their minds about vilifying Putin if they hear his arguments. They want to take no chance to allow Russia to explain its position in simple terms.

The British who lost their empire are feeling humiliated, bitter, and jealous of Russia. With Brexit, they thought they would become a preferred partner with the USA but Poland which is in the EU is becoming the USA's favorite. The Brits are doubly humiliated as they have always looked down on Poland!

Yes, I heard that the Russian Avangard hypersonic modules were banned from entering all G7 countries as part of the new sanctions package. And the Satan missiles have had all their accounts blocked... That was a heavy strike!

Back to talking about your Wonder Weapons ?

That is just like 1945.

Pathetic. What a joke your military is

When is Bakhmut going to fall BTW ?

Ha,ha, V2 was at least ready to use.

Ilya Yashin - 8 years jail for telling the Muscovite people about Bucha.

Interested if Rich agrees with this sentence - no essays, nothing about the USA, just a yes / no answer.

Busy day traveling to the US yesterday, and now catching up to see no new arguments from the Putinazis. Those Russians sure did great in WW2 though. Indeed when using American made items everyone did well. Russia did so well, that they havent really upgraded the military since WW2. All those great engineers couldn't reverse engineer all the US made items. Yep, continuing their success, Ukraine became the target, and even Ukraine, one of the most corrupt governments in the world wanted no part of Russia.

Why not actually look at why Ukraine doesnt want anything to do with Russia even when they are cousins and share a lot of history? The NATO issue, though made up from Putinazis doesnt go away if Russia takes even part of Ukraine. It only brings NATO to the doorstep. Taking all the emotional bull$hit arguments out of this, Russia really just $hit the bed and they dont know how to get out of it.

World Press Photo 2023



apnews.com/article/photo-ukraine-ap-mariupol-award-maloletka-699cb8362ac8cffefcec9496881fd9db

Mother and unborn didn't survive....sometimes I forget what is actually happening :(

reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/12smcj6/minime_no_more/

From my understanding Poland is building up an enormous army, they ordered 1000 tanks and got hundred of the latest amw's and ifv's called rosomaks and they have ordered the new f35. Will Poland send any of their newer stuff, or just Soviet stuff?

"Amidst an increase in government crackdowns on the opposition following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, some considered Yashin to have had the largest platform of any opposition politician that had not either left the country, been imprisoned, or been killed. However, in June 2022, he was arrested, and later accused under the new war censorship laws of disseminating fake news about the Armed Forces. In December 2022, he was sentenced to eight-and-a-half years in prison."

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Yashin


Do you seriously expect any human decency from Novichok?


Thanks, BB, for posting this. I'd never thought a Polandball comic would make me tear up...

....yeah....nothing goofy about it....easy to forget after two years....

The photo of the toddler in Sloviansk was horrible too. And these are deliberate actions - deliberate targeting of civilian buildings. I hope they will all stand before an international tribunal one day; like the f*cking nazis that they are. :-/

Just Soviet stuff??? What kind of an idiot are you?

Poland sent Leopard tanks - these are not Soviet. Poland sent Piorun rockets, the best manpads in the world - these are not Soviet. Poland sent brand new Krab howitzers - these are not Soviet. Poland sent FlyEye drones - these are not Soviet. MSB Grot assault rifles - not Soviet. Warmates - not Soviet. LMP 2017 mortars - not Soviet. I could go on...

Poland is also the largest supplier in the world of Starlink terminals (definitely not Soviet) for Ukraine, and all the hard currency that we spend on this war already (officially about 2% of our GDP) is also definitely not Soviet.

WTF???

@GefreiterKania
Most people in west are ignorant of geography and political/cultural/technological differences.

A lot people consider Poland Eastern Europe or a former Soviet state due to LACK OF HISTORICAL knowledge.

It is to Poland's benefit due to Poland being underestimated, yet professional advisors know better.

So such questions provoking or honest are to be expected

Poland has send newer weapons and will continue to do so since it is within its' interest that Ukraine prevails (and because they receive very generous refunds from the EU Peace funds).


That part is accurate. Poland is widely and justifiably considered as part of Eastern for geographic, cultural and political reasons. Never understood why this is something people in Poland object to.

Because it's basically nonsense. If countries like Belarus, Ukraine and Russia are Eastern Europe, then Poland definitely doesn't belong there. Totally different civilisation. Central Europe consists of so-called buffer countries - Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia as the core plus the Baltics, Croatia, Austria and some parts of the Balkans - between the East and West. Intermarium (Międzymorze - countries between Baltic, Black and Adriatic Seas) is a separate civilisation in its own right.

As for Poland - classifying us as East doesn't make sense geographically, as there are parts of Poland that are further West than some parts of Austria or Italy. "Cultural and political reasons" sounds nonsensical too - Poland, if you look at her history, is a Latin civilisation country based on Magdeburg and Roman law from the very beginning of our statehood in 966; also, we received Christian faith from the West, that's why we are Catholic and not Orthodox today. The 44 years of Soviet domination after WW2 doesn't define well over 1000 years of our history.

That's how World Bank and OECD see the map of Central Europe...



... quite accurate. I would only oppose to including Germany in the region. You are definitely Western.

The RuSSian full-scale invasion of Ukraine started over a year ago. And, to be honest, it isn't easy for me to forget. So I don't forget...


Because it's not factual, imho - I guess it's some kind of ignorant notion that Western people still have in their heads due to the Iron Curtain division of Europe.


Maybe widely, but I don't think justifiably.

Geographically Poland is Central Europe:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe

Culturally? Poland is Catholic and uses the Latin alphabet. In Eastern Europe the Eastern Orthodox Church predominates and they use the Cyrillic alphabet. So what do you mean by "cultural reasons?

And politically? Poland is a democratic country and a member of the EU and NATO. So what do you mean by "political reasons"?

As does most of what we consider Southern Europe. Greece is usually considered part of Southern Europe despite being mostly Orthodox.


That has nothing to do with being part of Eastern Europe.

And it is not like this is not politically acknowledged. Poland is openly cooperating with other Eastern European countries in interest groups like Visegrad within and outside of the EU.

...could it be about the germanic/slavic divide?