Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6

...and a 20 to 1 advantage in mil budgets. Yet, a year later Russia holds the part that used to produce 90% of Ukraine's GDP.

The probability that Russia will blink, say oops, and give part of itself back is less than zero. This makes Z the real war criminal. He should see what they did to Nicolae Ceaușescu before sending another ten thousand men to their death,

youtu.be/KKyyYbMx6YM

The fun part is at 3:20.

Nothing is cheap, and of course arms sales bring revenue and jobs.

Even if r*SSia spent countless trillions, most would end up in kleptocrats' pockets and what's left would go to make things that don't work...

According to your logic, the Polish government in 1939 were the real war criminals and not Hitler because they refused to surrender?


Any source for that?

@Tacitus
Technically true from Russian perspective due to heritage of the governing powers at the time were "criminal elements" and seperatists who later on worked with the Austrians to fight Russia during WW1.

After WW1 their leader left the comintern and waged a war with them too in 1918-1921.

So from Communist parties viewpoint they were all traitors "technically"

Post-ww2 era branded the pre-war government as bad as possible trying to destroy it's legitimacy and authority due increase their own by that thinking, pushing for viewpoint that only alliance with the Soviet Union made sense.

So for a few dinosaurs from that era, still parriting that narration is to be expected

Children, today you will learn why there is a war in Ukraine. Here we go...

US swamp wants regime change in Moscow - just as they did in Kyiv in 2014 - and balkanization of Russia as they did to Yugoslavia. Russia didn't find it funny and said let's talk.

Swamp said no and that's why Bakmhmut looks like Hiroshima.

Cookies are in the back of the room.

I'm afraid no child will understand this. You have to try simpler. For example, flowers are lovely and blue-yellow and the evil bear that tramples them is all red (from blood). Then they will understand

My kids don't like poetry.

The officials must have read my post and came up with their own version:

Officials in Moscow have said repeatedly that the root cause of the ongoing crisis in Ukraine stems from decades of Western disregard of Russian national security.

Back in 2021, the Kremlin made an attempt to push NATO to negotiate on long-standing political and defense grievances, but was ignored.

In late February 2022, Russia launched its military operation to curb the threat, and now calls for a neutral, non-aligned status for a demilitarized Ukraine, insists that Kiev drop its plans to join NATO and the EU, and demands that Kiev confirm its non-nuclear status.

That is not what the US swamp had in mind so this idea will be dismissed without an explanation to prevent Americans from saying why not? Enough already...

....where do you put then the ukrainian decision to give up it's own nukes?

Before it was the third largest nuclear power in the world....Russia surely wouldn't had dared to invade. They did it for lofty guarantees of the West and not at last to pacify Moscow (it's security interests). Now see what it got them!

npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion

PS: These given guarantees might actually be the main reason why the West is going out of its way to support Ukraine in this war....

Actually russia invaded in 2014 and only ramped things up in 2022.... do keep up.


russia has no national security concerns.... it's a fake and ghey country and hopefully it will stop existing....

...because they were bored. No cookie for you.

Since the British Storm Shadow missiles started to be used by Ukraine around a fortnight ago, the number of fires at r*SSian military installations and armaments factories has increased fourfold. 900 devastating fires in two weeks.

The orcs don't like it up 'em....

They don't and they are going to get plenty more up 'em soon...LOL!!!!

The latest official update on the Glorious Three Day Special Operation.

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Well that is awesome for our trolls - they can switch off their 20 year old Tajik desktops and go and spend some unpaid ovetime making unreliable shells for 1950s cannons. All to the sound pf patriotic music !

But at least they know their rulers will be working alongside them in the factories - no special favors in Udmurtia ! It is unimaginable that any of Putin's cronies might be planning to evade their duty by taking off in a helicopter to their dacha with a silicone busted mistress.

BILD again:


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05/28/2023 - 10:56 p.m

Is the power struggle in Russia about to escalate?

According to the former Russian secret service officer Igor Girkin (52), Russia is about to start violent clashes over Kremlin power. "The riots have started," Girkin explained in a new video. The former secret service man already sees a coup attempt in progress - and has identified a Russian military leader as the coup plotter.

Background: Girkin used to work for the Russian content intelligence service FSB. In 2014, he became known as the leader of so-called separatists in Ukraine: He helped start the war in eastern Ukraine on behalf of Moscow, made a name for himself as a Russian ultra-nationalist until he fell out of favor with parts of the Kremlin regime.

Now Girkin warns against the rise of the mercenary boss Yevgeny Prigoschin (62) - and assumes that the "Wagner" boss is leading a coup attempt!

....hmmmm.....lets wait and see.....

True. Those of their rulers that aren't getting old tanks and artillery out of military museums. (this is actually happening) due to having lost so much in fighting.

A lot is happening tonight. Explosions (apparently from Storm Shadow and other missiles supplied by Britain and France) all along the Azov Sea coast, up to around 90km behind r*SSian lines including in and around Mariupol. All targeting military installations. There are also fires raging in Krasnodar.

In retaliation, the orcs have launched perhaps their largest bombing raid so far. Doubtless targeting civilian, populations, schools, hospitals, kindergartens et cetera. They have form for this. Hopefully every one of the planes will be shut down with the pilots screaming in agony as the flesh burns off their bones.

@jon357
There is something in it, because the Russian trolls fell silent out of fear. And it has been for several days.

Yes, I think so too. They know something is coming, but they don't know what, when or where.

More like boredom.

The Russian army is doing now, what the Ukrainians are supposed to be doing. Hitting troop concentrations and munitions depots with long range fires. There's been quite a few very massive explosions in the Ukrainian rear over the past two weeks. I suspect this plays not a small role in the constant delay of the counter offensive.

I sympathize with the Ukrainians - it must be difficult to hide the kind of mass they need for the counter offensive.

All of this is not to say they won't achieve some kind of local success. Likely, some of you will be able to again say: "Russia took X many months to take this place, while Ukraine took it in less than a week". For us Russians, things will get worse for a short period, before they improve again.

Why are the Ukrainians supposed to be firing at random civilian targets? Ukrainians (unlike russians) aren't cowards or morally depraved.

I'd cool with the enthuisiasm since a whole bunch of times russian 'success' videos turn out to be Ukrainian in origin or something else completely.

While we're here.... what strategic goal is achieved by the repeated shelling of Kyiv beyond cementing Ukrainian hatred of everything russian?

russia failed to empty out the city (it's repeated stated goal over the winter)

what's the deal?

what precisely is being accomplished and how will it improve the lives of people in Ukraine (or russia for that matter)?

1) We cannot shell it, it's out of range of our tubes.

2) We are exhausting the AD supply. A single Patriot missile costs $4M. An Iranian Shahed drone costs something like $50-200K. Already, Ukrainians are asking for urgent resupply. Reuters is your friend.

3) According to you we are shelling civilians. We believe we are hitting concentrations of weapons and munitions. The casualty rate of 1 civilian dead for 50+ missiles launched seems to confirm that we are not trying to hurt innocents.

4) Work is continuing on disabling the Ukrainian electrical grid, and making sluggish or unusable their logistical arteries.

5) Our aviation has a role to play in smashing this Ukrainian counter offensive. It's job will be much more difficult if Ukrainians are able to pull their AD systems closer to where the action will unfold. We need to keep Ukrainian AD pinned and hopefully devoid of ammo. In this way, the Russian Air Force might finally be able to make a worthy entry into this war, after sitting it out for the first 15 months.

Their speaks the bluster prompted by fear of what is to come.

delusion.....

and again... what's the end game and how will it make life better for anyone besides a few russian oligarchs and ukrainian traitors?

if you can't answer that (and no russian I've asked has come up with anything remotely coherent) then maybe it was a stupid idea and you need to get out of Ukraine where you're clearly not wanted.

You're asking the wrong person. From my point of view as a fattened burgher - none of this makes sense. Not since early March of last year, probably. I'm watching my whole life burn down, like a big ol' bonfire. I try to find humor in it, as I'm helpless to do much else.

The "end game" is beyond my comprehension. However, I know you and my friends and colleagues here in the West, don't quite grasp the lengths to which we will go to turn this around. It'll be a new world.

Maybe not as new as in 1991, but new.

Trust me. I'm convinced that russians would happily kill tens of millions of Ukrainians and pat themselves on the back about it and think of it as a great accomplishment.

I'm almost not mad at them. They're primitive creatures who do not understand anything and are not really fit for the modern world.

The ones I really despise are the ones who realize it's wrong and do nothing or make excuses for it.

The ones I despise is those who have made this into "their war", without having the slightest grounding in the context and the accompanying pain. For you it is a circus, a show. A chance to dip the Russians into their own "sh!t". No sense of responsibility, just pure unbridled righteousness. I hate you too.

I'm in favor of human freedom. Ukraine, like Poland, has made a stand for human freedom and russia makes a stand for slavery and corruption and violence because that's all russians know.

russia unleashed all of this out of its gigantic narcissistic wound (why doesn't anybody look up to you? because you do crap like this invasion, that's why) why don't Ukrainians think of themselves as russian? because they're better than russians.

I don't care about russian attachment to Ukraine, I care that Ukrainians want to be free of russian tyranny and backwardness.

You're not even worthy of hate, just.... pity. Violent and ignorant and dreams of grandeur that never come true and never will.

...I'm shaking my disbelieving head so often I get dizzy....

Lately I re-watched the football finale of 2014 in Rio, just to see Germany win something again, heh:) and there he was, Putin...enjoying the spectacle, friendly chatting and laughing with the world leaders (Merkel too)....and I ask again: WTF happened???

r*SSians are not known for having much of a sense of right and wrong.

Reading some of the newspaper comments fields today, they're infested with paid orc Glavset trolls. Absolutely infested. Some having conversations in uncomfortable English with each other, all following the same script.

This is invariably a sign that their bosses are terrified of something, and as r*SSia's cackhanded attempts to attack Ukraine last night show, the r*SSian army, it's leaders and their citizens have a great deal to fear.