Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

@mafketis, lol, exactly, this is some really messed up example of hypocrisy (or maybe even gaslighting) on Bobko's part.

Do you at least know the meaning of the words you used in the quoted sentence?

Intimidate
Persuade
Submission
Domination
Leadership

Do you realize that the highlighted words are positive? You are trying to persuade and lead every single day at home, as a teacher, and here. That doesn't make you evil, does it?

The other three words have nothing to do with any acts of violence. The US has been doing all five since the end of WW2 and killing millions in the process.

Pawian, I appreciate your response but you blew it, man...

There is nothing "positive" in intimidating and forcing others into submission.

Yes, I do coz I used them on purpose. Russian persuasion and leadership notions already work fine on some nations in Europe, e.g, Hungary, Serbia, Slovakia, Bulgaria.


I think so. Did you ever doubt it??? :):):)


Actually, intimidation involves threats of using violence. Russian politicians have been exploiting them abundantly against various states, e,g Germany or Great Britain, by threatening to attack Berlin or London for their aid to Ukraine. Russians love intimidating the world with their nuclear potential and hope it will be enough to subdue countries who consider Russia a rogue state.

It is really surprising you have a problem with it. :):):)


I am of a different opinion. I can`t be held responsible for your amasing misunderstanding of such simple issues. :):):)

That post of yours would be great on the Moon or Saturn. This is Earth, with the US and China as references.

Everything you just mentioned the US is doing every single day. Now a shocker...I like that we have the power to do it. What I don't like is that only the American top 1% benefits from it.

We, the lesser people never do. We just pay taxes - only to listen to some morons in Poland that we should contribute more. Print more Euros and FO, a-holes...

Back to you...If you want to play Paulina's Civics 101, by-the-book games, I am the wrong party.

I already told you that Poles positively don `t care about Americans coz they are not an existential threat to us. While Russians are.
See their opinions:


Novi
Therefore, can you limit your constant and senseless intrusions with the US theme while we are debating Russia which threatens Europe and Poland coz they dare to come to aid of Ukraine???


Yes, you are. Whenever sb gets an upper hand over you with logical and reasonable arguments. hahahahaha

See you tomorrow. :):):)

focus.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise/mit-waffen-finnland-und-polen-kreml-will-baltische-staaten-zurueckholen_id_218306948.html


Seriously???

The current mood in Russia seems to be towards expansion. The Kremlin-appointed chief for the Zaporizhzhia region, Yevgeny Balitsky, emphasized the need for a Russian presence in the Baltic states, Finland and Poland in a recent interview with RIA Novosti . This is reported by " Kyiv Post ". He expressed the view that these lands once belonged to the Russian Empire and should therefore be brought back so that "the whole world does not become Sodom and Gomorrah," as, according to Balitsky, is currently the case in . Europe These comments, as reported by the Kyiv Post, reveal a larger tendency in Russia to seek not only the restoration of the USSR, but also the entire Russian Empire. .....

Hopefully only a scare tactic by the Ukrainians....

As opposed to Western warmongers and their Trojan horse aka NATO that didn't expand one damn bit since 1990.

Congress put the brakes on the cash cow:)

Let secure our border first!

The EU is rich they can afford it.

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Hey, pawian, add up the military installations around the globe and tell us the count for the US and Russia to see who expanded and who didn't since 1945.

In the meantime...

Western prosperity based on worldwide pillage - Putin
The entire history of the collective West is about "endless expansion," the Russian president has said

Whatever you think about Putin, can we assume that he knows where the Western scumbags are and how they practice new colonialism? It's so amazingly simple, that even you will be impressed. This is how it works...

France needs uranium. Niger has uranium. France installs some sob as "the leader" and brings in a couple of thousand troops to protect said sob. France bribes the sob so that the sob will sell Niger's uranium to France for next to nothing. That is known as exploitation or simply theft.

Enter Russia...to tell Niger that they don't have to be fu*cked by Western thieves and that Niger can sell its uranium at the prevailing prices and that Niger can tell the French to GTFO.

I love Putin and Russia for this alone. The way they handle LGBTs is a bonus...


As I said at my weekly discussion meeting today, without US money this war would last a week.

500,000 Ukrainian men are dead.
1,300,000 Ukrainian men are permanently disabled.
C, D, and L are forever part of Russia.
Z-P is still zero.
Dying for "freedom and democracy" is a great honor - as long as it's none of PF posters.

In Feb 2022, all Russia wanted was Ukraine to be neutral and the Russians in D and L to be able to decide if they want to be part of Ukraine.

Sick does not describe this...

Where did you get these numbers?

Ponzi schemes require endless expansion of the bottom of the pyramid. Why is the international industrial complex salivating at the thought of bringing Ukraine into the EU? Cheaper workforce, a lot of space for expansion in farming (already largely in the hands of huge corporations) and industry - even if it's only assembly facilities that will be withdrawn from Poland and Slovakia. Simple. But there are still idiots who think that it's all about democracy, freedom and kumbaya singing - hopeless cases.

Luckily, Ukrainians are their own worst enemies. Even Juncker says that Ukraine is so corrupt that the EU membership is impossible for them at the moment.

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raport-ukraina-rosja/news-ostre-slowa-polityka-skorumpowana-ukraina-nie-jest-gotowa-na,nId,7069167

"Anyone who ever had any sort of relations with Ukraine, realises that it's a country corrupt on every level of society".
Jean-Claude Juncker

More than Poland under communism?

@Alien

Definitely.

Poland, even under communism, remained by and large a Latin civilisation country and when the shackles of communism were broken Poland flourished. Ukraine is a Turanian civilisation country (like their larger Russian brothers). Totally different mentality. Ignorant outsiders can be fooled by outward similarities in looks or languages but the difference is indeed profound.

In 1989 Ukraine's GDP was 24% higher than Poland's. Communist model was certainly more suitable to eastern feudal mentality Then the wind of change blew and both countries could develop without the burden of communism: in 2003 (so even before Poland joined the EU) Poland's GDP was more than 400% that of Ukraine.

Juncker is an old fox and he knows that. Completely different civilisations.

Of course, you can argue that eastern Slavic countries (Ukraine, Belarus, Russia) are more suited to feudal, dictatorial systems, more in accordance with their civilisational model and shouldn't be bribed, persuaded or dragged to adapt Western - totally alien to them - model of economy/society, and I would be inclined to agree with you.

Let Africans remain in Africa, Turanians (widely understood) in Turania and Westerners in the West. That's what logic, common sense and ordinary human decency tells us. Unfortunately, some people in the West would seem to be forgetting about these things recently and it might have dire consequences for the entire West. Moreover, if the leftist idiocy continues to go on a rampage in the West with their idiotic woke and eco-nazi agenda, some people might even begin to see the positive sides of the Turanian model. Professor Koneczny is rolling in his grave.

You start your silly song again.

Poland is Latin like I am a monkey's uncle.

Your more detailed family connections are unknown to me, Bobi. About Poland, however, I know a thing or two.

We have always been a Latin civilisation country. Well, at least for the last 1000 years or so.

So, why aren`t you fascinated with Ukraine as you are with Russia??? Strange.....


But you argued a few times before that Ukrainians are best immigrants for Poland coz their culture is very similar to the Polish one.

I am afraid you need to take Buerlecithin, a German syrup to improve your poor memory. hahahaha

It's a good thing that I ignore some posters here and I don't have to reply to their boring and intellectual-acuity-lacking posts. :)

Certain misunderstandings regarding the civilisational models I mentioned might stem from the fact that the world has changed profoundly in recent decades. To properly understand it we need to reach to the wisdom of the most underrated PF member in history - Crow.

Crow mentioned on several occasions that Poland is the Real West, and the way he was ridiculed for that indicates not only the level of idiocy on this board but also the general confusion obscuring these matters.

Poland is the Real West these days not because we decided to leave the Old West but because the Old West (or at least a large part of it) has degenerated into something that would be hardly recognisable for Professor Koneczny if he had the bad fortune to be alive today. Poland remained where she has always been, that's why - in strict sense - the Latin West these days starts on the eastern Polish border and ends on the western one (with some separated islands within the USA, Croatia, Italy, France, Portugal/Spain, Slovakia, Ireland, Serbia and a couple of others). The West these days is Poland, as the main land, and several archipelago islands spread around the globe.

It takes a lot of acuity and wisdom to realise that. That's why Crow is so sorely missed on this board.

All you have "debunked" is how Western "democracies" use deception and substitution of concepts to legitimize power conducting third party interests.

1. A Declaration is published promising something considered to be in the best interests of the people.

2. A referendum is held in which this Declaration is mentioned in the question, giving the impression that it is support for the concept from the above declaration that is being voted on.

3. A Constitution is written, in the preamble of which references are made to the Referendum and the Declaration as the basis on which this Constitution is created.

4. The authorities do what they need or what they are paid for on their personal account. Everything except what was contained in the original Declaration and what the population believed they voted for in the Referendum.

5. When someone raises a question, a shabby baboon comes out and explains that the Preamble is nothing at all, and since the concepts voted for in the Referendum are not even mentioned in the main text, they should not be expected to be followed.

Constitutions get changed..... how often was the russian constitution changed to let putain keep power?

For those who think russia's not planning to invade other countries....

twitter.com/victoriaslog/status/1710042212845637867

for the terminally stupid who think this is about NATO...

Estonia and Latvia (two more countries russians think should not exist) are already in NATO

This is 100% about russian imperial hubris and their futile quest to gain respect (a place in the sun as bobko puts it) by conquering and destroying other countries.

This idiot from Zaporhizia is even worse...

newsweek.com/russia-zaporozhzhia-nato-invade-balitsky-1832236

... xD

Or perhaps they are secret western agents, planted in Russia, who try to turn the remaining Russia's supporters in the West into her enemies? Interesting.

If they're high ranking and/or high profile enough, I go with Galeev's analysis --- they're demonstrating they're crazy enough that western powers won't consider them to be possible liaisons

Or, even more likely, they already know that the agreement is being negotiated and there will be peace soon, so they are just talking some nonsense for their general population ("we are great and powerful - raaawrrr!", "we defeated the entire NATO and won a lot of land back, raaawwwr!", "we will win more in the future, raawr!").

You have to allow every country a little bit of mental retardation for their internal use.


Yes, that's another possibility.

lots of dead ukrops and mercs

MERCENARIES WIPED OUT IN BELGOROVKA BY ADVANCING RUSSIAN FORCES
WATCH

bitchute.com/video/GPlsq8wKtrMb/

UKRAINIAN FACTORY IN KHERSON HIT WITH MAJOR BOMB

Arrival at the Ukrainian Armed Forces facility in the Berislavsky district of the Kherson region

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/mfGfbgXsRKwj/

RUSSIAN TORNADO-S GMLRS DESTROYS CROWD OF DOZENS OF 77TH AIRMOBILE BRIGADE AFU

The arrival of the adjustable ammunition of the Tornado-S RSOs along the crowd of Ukrainian soldiers from the 77th airmobile brigade in the field near the village of Kucherov Yar in the territory of the DPR controlled by Ukraine.

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/EvfyLC2j7YBo/

DEAD AFU AND ANOTHER DESTROYED LEOPARD 2A6 IN RABOTINO POSITIONS
WATCH

bitchute.com/video/3hJp62RvF8Lo/

RUSSIAN TANKER DESCRIBES AUTOMATED SYSTEMS IN HIS MODERN TANK
WATCH

bitchute.com/video/aEwDJXylsvyE/

@Crno

So many videos and so little actually happening on the "front". If only we could have fewer videos and more military action. Oh, well...

In case you missed that tiny little detail - NATO is expanding peacefully into countries that WANT to be part of NATO, while RuSSia is invading it's neighbours and occupying their lands.


...and it tells it's neighbours which alliances they can be part of and which they cannot be part of and if they disagree RuSSia invades them, destroys and loots their country, kills and robs their people, steals their children, rapes their women and steals their lands (together with all the resources and industry).


...RuSSia. Yes, it's much worse. It's sickening.

ANOTHER TERRORIST SABOTEUR CAPTURED IN RUSSIA BY FSB - WHY DO THEY ALWAYS HAVE THIS FLAG ON THEM?

In Saratov, a Jewish fascist was detained, who collaborated with the SBU and intended to go to the terrorists from the Sect of Freedom of Russia.

During the search, they found a weapon, the flag of Israel, the cap of the Third Reich and Zionite literature.

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/Ao89dXRD2CSy/

qane
Shoot this kike on spot

Christian_Crusader48
mossad..

Evil Harry Dread
A Wermacht cap and the flag of Israel?
Little bit of an identity crisis going on there?

Simplicius76
apparently the Finland 3rd reich nazi hat