Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

Stop right here. Illegal is criminal. End of the story. China could justify invading the US for a number of reasons it finds annoying.

The US caused the deaths of millions in Korea and Vietnam because the US didn't want either to be communist. Better dead than red was the slogan of the day. Which one would you choose? Red or dead?

North Korea was not going to exterminate South Koreans. North Vietnam didn't plan to exterminate the South Vietnamese. Maybe the South wanted to be communist in both cases. Vietnam is now. How about giving them a choice: war and death or a single-party communist system?

Should we invade China because it's communist?

1. What would the US do after discovering that China is constructing an Okinawa-class base on Cozumel?
2. Is a Russian soldier who took a Ukrainian child and his consenting mother to a safer place a war criminal?
3. Were German soldiers who took a Polish kid and his babysitter to a safer place war criminals?
4. Are Israelis who ordered Gazans to go to a safer place war criminals?

had my ukri nationalist fam son marry a russian orthodox fam daughter. seemed like a beautiful wedding. . in Melbourne. also these slavic weddings go for 1-2 days. so all these Ukrainians, russians and Polaks drinking vodka togetheer...

Were you there? It seems so...

Where are PF broads to explain what made Putin a war criminal according to the ICC wh*res - sorry, I meant justices...
Even the US - along with China and Russia - gave these idiots the middle finger...

wasin't there but im sure it was a great slavic wedding, u know the usual , 1-2 days. if these ukri nationalists and russian orthodox also polaks avoided a biyatiika after 12- 48 hours of vodka , i'm impressed, i'll keep you informed. But novi you know it's possible...

1. China would not dare and neither would Mexico
2. Yes that is a war crime
3. Yes, war crime
4. Yes, it's a crime

Putler is a war criminal and so is everyone involved in the child abductions - even the durak who they sent to buy vodka for the trip.

The slogan was stupid back then and still is. If we had followed it in the 1980s, the Soviet Union would have won and we would be all much worse off for it.

Just a reminder that it was not the USA who started the Korean War. Have you met a South Korean who claimed that living under Kim's regime would have been preferable to fight? If one war after WWII (from thr Allies side) was worth fighting for, it was this one.


That is as likely as Canada joining the Axis. And even if Mexico was stupid enough to do that, it would also require a very stupid US president to proceed with an invasion over something like that.

And again, this is also not what happened with Ukraine. The USA could have stationed troops and rockets in striking distance to St. Petersburg any time it choose to, but instead went along with European wishes to appease Russia.

The slogan is still stupid, just remember it was your mother merkel that got time magazine woman of the year. just like adolph.

where the f*ck this bi*ch at?
unlike obama she hiding. good move.

Because, as I said, the US would throw a major fit as it did way back before the first machine would arrive in Cozumel to build that base. Russia got upset for the same reason.


No, idiot, because there is no victim. Crimes need victims. No victim, no crime. Some a-hole in the Hague cannot create a victim.


No, idiot, because there was no victim. Crimes need victims. No victim, no crime.
If I had to testify at their trial for "war crimes" I would testify in defense of those Germans and so would my babysitter.


No. Bombing Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki was never declared by any court to be war crimes.
Israelis are a lot nice by giving Gazans advance notice. The US was not that nice and was never called a war criminal.

Putler and his poisonous criminal coward friends can enjoy arguing all those points in The Hague

Of course when they get there, they will turn up like Milosevic in carpet slippers and cardigans, pretending to have dementia

I appreciate when a coward defers to higher authority when he is too stupid to defend his idiotic arguments.

BTW, that circus in the Hague got three middle fingers - one from China, another from Russia, and - a drum roll - from the US!!! To us, these robed morons don't exist.

So that we will have a clear picture of how stupid trolls debate...Here is a summary...

A mother and her two crying kids are standing next to what used to be their apartment building. Husband is dead.

Two Russian soldiers spot them and ask if she is OK. She says no and asks if she can get some food and a bandaid. The Russians give her both and ask if she would like to go with them because where they are now is not safe. She says yes and ends up at their camp. Later, the camp is closed and she is offered to move to Russia just as her friends moved to Poland to be safe while the war is going on.

Later, a moron from Poland files a complaint with the ICC claiming war crimes. The woman is still shaking her head. She didn't know that super-moron actually existed.

Sanctions will remain in place until Putler is delivered to The Hague

The Udmurtians will be living on sprats and potato peel until he is sitting there next to old liver face Lavrov and that boozed up midget Medvedev

The sanctions will be there forever, or at least until we come crawling back on all fours - begging for forgiveness.

The US imposed a total embargo on Cuba in 1958. According to Wiki: "The United Nations General Assembly has passed a resolution every year since 1992 demanding the end of the US economic embargo on Cuba, with the US and Israel being the only nations to consistently vote against the resolutions."

60+ years, and the Americans are still trying to suffocate the Cubans into submission. Same story with the North Koreans and Iran.

Another example is the Jackson-Vanik Amendment, which was passed by Congress in 1974. These were in essence economic sanctions, intended to force the Soviet Union to allow its Jews to emigrate.

The Soviet Union fell apart, nearly all the Jews emigrated, and Russia became a market economy. Guess what, it took until 2012 for it to be repealed against Russia - but also, only to be replaced with the Magnitsky Act. The law itself is formally called, "The Russia and Moldova Jackson-Vanik Repeal and Sergei Magnitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act of 2012".

Basically they took a couple unnecessary decades to repeal the sanctions, and then replaced them with new ones on literally the same day they repealed the old ones.

This is why nobody takes US sanctions seriously. The US is simply not an honest broker. Iran tried to play the game, and was swiftly punished for it by Trump.

If America sanctions you, it's better to immediately start making preparations for how to live life under these sanctions, than to engage in any kind of back and forth with the States. They don't mean what they say, and they change their mind constantly.

I fekking hope so. That is simple justice for what imperialist Russians are doing in and to Ukraine. Let them eat grass!!!

Russia is doing God's work, showing the other guys how to stand up to the bully.

I'm very proud of my Ministry of Foreign Affairs, when they say that we will never come to the United States asking for a repeal of the sanctions packages.

It was embarrassing watching Iran go for round after round of talks, only to be presented with some new condition each time. I understand they were just trying to get their own money back, which the West had stolen in broad daylight, but it still reeked of weakness.

Iran had just a few billion stolen, whereas we had more than $300B boosted.

No negotiations with thieves.

When the thief is a "democracy" it's justified.


Bullying for "freedom and democracy" is a virtue here.
Or if one is a Polish moron. Then, protecting a child is a war crime.

I hope so! Let imperialist Russians eat grass!!!! hahaha

Pity that decent Russians will suffer the consequences, too. But life has never been fair, especially in Russia.


And murderers. So fekking true. Sanctions will stay, then!

Amazing, isn't it?

Cover yourself in laws, and the unforgivable becomes kosher.

Russia may be lawless, but it doesn't mean we don't have a sense for what is right and what is wrong.

Next time let those kids die. Then the ICC idiots and stupid PF Russia haters will be happy.

There was a case in the US where a guy pushed a woman to save her from being overrun by a bus. Consistent with PF morons, he was charged with assault.

No, I am not making it up.

@Bobko
Have you been to Cuba? Those sanctions have created a disaster of a country. But, with sanctions easing, Cuba is doing what Russia did not. They are creating a real economy and the tourism industry is pumping. Of course the government gets a piece of everything, but the people are becoming much better off. I have Canadian friends that own property there and spend all winter going to the beach and fishing. Regular flights from Miami now.

Imagine what Russia could have become if it had simply embraced capitalism, and allowed the people to really profit, and it did not create the mafia like Oligarch systems. Imagine how much further ahead the whole society would be right now. Life in Moscow compared to life in Warsaw, and there is a clear winner. As fvcked up as the financial system is in Poland, the Russian people are light years behind by way of standards of living and freedom. But those new Lada's are incredible.

Meanwhile in the war, reports of Ukraine special forces in Sudan helping to kill Wagner fighters are coming to light. Imagine if Ukraine took over the goald mine the Wagners control there, and cut off the money to Wagner and little Vlad. Could make things very interesting as the war moves forward. Also reports of Ukraine strengthening their hold on the other side of the Dnipro, and if they can keep moving forward, Russia has big problems. The clock is still ticking though.

I'm not sure if this is the stupidest argument you've ever made (heavy competition) but it's close... since the russian soldiers were the ones responsible for destroying her home in the first place....

Let's imagine a trial.

Defendant: I shouldn't be charged with kidnapping! I saved those children from a burning house!
Judge: You set the house on fire.
Defendant: I'm a hero!!!!!!!!
Judge: And I'm adding arson to your charges....


How could you choose 'wrong' every single time if you didn't?

nah, just severely degrading their armed forces for the next 5 years is an acceptable outcome.

Because the international treaties that were in effect during WWII did not ban the unlimited bombardment of cities as a crime, since they were signed well before that became technological possible.


Hopefully longer.

@mafketis
Until former soviet era leaders are all dead, and their ideas with them, the desire to expand or regain what was once part of the USSR will never go away. Until young people decide to push back and take over Russia will never change. The youth of the world always determine the direction eventually. The US and the last thirty years of youth movement is a shining example of what the youth can fvck up though. So, its going to be interesting when little Vlad is actually dead.

Meanwhile in the US a new poll shows only 40% of Americans want to send more weapons to Ukraine. This depending on how accurate should be a real wakeup for Z that his time is running out. This will become an election issue in the next few months that wont be ignored.

PolAM you keep making the same point over and over. if the US citizens don't want to vote for someone who arms Ukraine, then fine, that is their right.

But it's not as if this is the only thing standing between Udmurtia and a Ukrainian defeat - there are plenty of other countries who will supply cash and weapons and will gladly increase their influence in the region. Not everything revolves around some out of work coal miners in West Viriginia.

@cms neuf
I dont think you understand that the EU does not have the cash or weapons capability to supply Ukraine while trying to arm themselves. They have said as much. Just this week the EU said it will not meet the promise of one million rounds of ammunition for Ukraine until maybe spring or summer next year. The US has not sent more arms or money in three months now, and Ukraine is out of money asking for loans. They will run out of ammunition and other weapons in the next two months if an urgent resupply is not made. Meanwhile in the US, companies are producing more and more weapons and ammunition waiting for those government purchases or for restocking US supplies.

You dont like me making a point that support for Ukraine is not only erroding in government but in the eyes of citizens. Ok. Lets just pretend thats not a problem and see how quickly Germany, France and others come rushing in to help. This war costs more than a million dollars a week to fund. I cant wait to see who steps up with that kind of money while trying to resupply themselves, and digging out from global inflation.

This point is so accurate and obvious it hardly needs stating.


Indeed. He constantly overstates the power and role of the country he comes from. He overstates it more than the Pentagon who have been admitting for some years now that their military role outside their country is declining and that they have increasingly limited influence over and access to crisis zones.

He also overstates their abilities to act alone without other developed countries as partners, and of course that works two ways. His country also needs friends and allies who they would do well not to alienate.

Hey, moron, no Germans were tried for setting Warsaw on fire, They were tried for the cruel and inhumane treatment of defenseless prisoners.
Wars are not war crimes or the US government would be on death row for Iraq.

You are lying. The DoD spends more money than ever. In peacetime!!!
Actually, 4 times more than China and 10 times more than Russia. All borrowed or printed. And none of it to defend the US.