Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 8

Here is the problem...One segment of American society aka taxpayers get fvcked. Another segment - the 1% - gets to enjoy orgasms on the way to the bank.

The PF simpletons call it "good for America" because Euro simpletons are morons. They even claim that defending Europe is good for the US but never explain which US.

It's actually fun to be a Euro moron...one never has to think...or get the bill...

I'd love nothing more than Russia to get the fu*ck out of Ukraine so we can all live in peace. You're cheerleading a bloody invasion, that will only lead to hundreds of thousands of dead Slavs. Like usually Ruskies prove to be a deranged death cult. But that is nothing truly surprising really.

Do you include those who are already dead or just you?

I could never articulate very well why I hate Poles. Until now. I know that PF is a small sample but the pattern is impossible to miss...

Luckily, there are Russians here and a German...What a relief...

Most left wing "baizuo" westerns hate Poles because they see us as whites, racists and homophobics and whites are devils for the Baizuo religion, most "tankies" hate Poles due our anti communism. And most right wing westerners have admiration towards Poland cuz we protected Europe from Mongols, Ottomans and Bolsheviks in 1920. IDK any right wing guy who hates Poles.

No. You are just emotional idiots it's impossible to reason with.

:):):) Outburst like Ptak`s.

Shhhhh.

And who might you be, Rysiek? Are you trans? You were born a Pole but I see that you imagine you are now a fully transitioned trans American.

Interesting.

Vomit-inducing but interesting.

A supposed Serbian saying:

"In war the politicians give ammunition, the rich give the food and the poor give their children... When the war is over the politicians get back the leftover ammunition, the rich grow more food and the poor search for the graves of their children."

Nah, we bombed Serbia because Serbians were engaging in ethnic cleasing in Kosovo. And we do not like ethnic cleansing on Europe's doorstep.

Idk, it's not me fantasizing about nuclear destruction of the West (or for that matter, East). It is you.

... unless those who being cleanised is Russians.

@Velund
Germans in 1939 also claimed falsely that their opponents were conducting genocide on their people living in Poland...

So if you continue this narration then explain the Russian deserters who partook in bombing Donbas of Russian civilians and why they deserted...

@pawian
Please tell me, in realistic terms, not some idealistic terms, how this impacts the US. Not some babble about the US leadership of democracy. The US gave Ukraine every opportunity to do what it was told to do, to tell the truth, and to make something happen. All Ukraine has done is lie about success, and refuse to follow orders from the people paying for it all. When people dont do what they are paid to do, they no longer get paid. That is the American way, and no one GAF if you or any other person in Europe doesnt like it. Why? No one will ever try to invade any part of the US. Europeans have been invading each other for centuries. Its not the US fight. And that is the bottom line.

Blue mood? Not a chance. I am with my family, enjoying the holiday season, and breathing freely. Everything is black or white. There is no grey area, unless people need to create a grey area to make themselves feel better about uncomfortable truths. When you accept the truth, good or bad, its no longer uncomfortable, you just deal with it. And the truth is, Ukraine, needs to do a 180 or the Us will not support them any more. Thats just a fact. Four months since last real assistance package approval says it all.

Just, like... try to keep to your own territory. No one is going into Russia cleanse you, if you are not trying to fu*ck up you neighbour, you know.

Sounds like an example of a level 80 hutzpah, something like a street mugger arguing that the police shouldn't operate outside the police station area.

We know better who is a relative to whom, and on the left bank of the Dnieper more than half of the people have direct relatives in Russia. Any violence against one of them is seen as violence against Russians. Period.

I'm on vacation in the south of Europe so haven't been writing much,, but thought people might enjoy this example of russian depravity...

mother loses son in Ukraine but she gets a slab from a basement with his supposed last words.... not a white lada but at this point russian peasants need to be happy with whatever scraps their masters deign to throw them...

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disgusting country and disgusting 'culture'.... no wonder Ukrainians want shut of them.

Come on. Not all Russians are such brainwashed putinist imperialists. Only about 70% of them.


Exactly. Then Russians feel free to level that area where such violence took place. Clever!!! They have learnt the lesson from their Nazi educators who razed Warsaw to the ground.

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Seethe all you want, no one is scared of Russia anymore. It can send all the mobik waves assaulting some 20k pre war sh*ithole town it wants. The cat is out of the bag and you backed pathetic losers.

As they say si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses only with army.

There was nothing that would warrant "police operation".


You know sh1t. You're psycho zombies brainwashed by the Kremlin.


That's the ironic part, because those people have been killed and have their lives destroyed because of the RuSSian invasion that was supposed to "save" them lol That makes me think that you don't really care about them.


There was no violence against RuSSians or Russian-speaking Ukrainians in Ukraine before RuSSia invaded in 2014. So there was no real reason to invade. Mr Grunwald is right - RuSSia made a copycat of Nazi propaganda against Ukraine. Disgusting.

Do you remember Kosovo?

PS: I will no longer reply to any of your "arguments", because it is laughable when someone who never been in ukraine lecture someone who have a bunch of relatives (cousins as nearest) and regularly visited/contacted them during a whole lifetime. Feel free to forget the Volhynia Massacre if you want, of course, but we haven't forgotten anything.

End of topic.

yes, you still can`t forget how you colonised Ukraine. I hope the decades of Western sanctions will educate you to become a decent nation at last.

I can reconcile with everybody in the forum for Christmas, even the most hardened opponents, but I can`t reconcile with imperialist Russians. You are incorrigible stalinists whom I have always rejected.

That is why, DFY and your stalinist grandpas too.
End of topic.

Yes, I do. Do you? Because I have an impression that you have recurrent memory problems:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Kosovo_War


I hope that none of them died because of that RuSSia's "police operation" intended to "save" them, haha lol


I'm not forgetting anything, it's just I don't support invading countries because of the way they "remember" their history. If that was considered "normal" RuSSia should be invaded ten times over already.


Nope. Not as long as you keep lying, manipulating and twisting.

What? Please enlighten us how ukraine was created and at which stage Donbass/Kharkov/Odessa was "colonised"?

It's easier to dislike what you know best.
This forum and the idiotic arguments we get from PF Poles are merely a confirmation.


This is beyond funny...Some dumb, sexually confused Polak teaching a Russian about Russia...Priceless...

Exactly. Those Muscovite imperialists really believe that the world has bought their version of history. Amassing ignoramuses.

Hey, imperialists and other nasty putinists, it was Kyiv Rus which came into being first. Muscovy occured much later. You can lick Ukrainian boots, kiddies.

@Novichock

I know that you care about children.
How do you defend Russian abduction of nearly half a million children from Ukraine?

If the USA give up and lose Ukraine, this will mean Russian direct threat to Europe. Preventing the Kremlin attack will cost the US much more than sponsoring Ukraine now.

Besides, if Russia wins, China will feel emboldened to attack Taiwan, and then we have Am-Chino war in Asia.

So, it is surprising that Am can`t see further ahead than the period of a few months.

@pawian
Europe fighting Russia is not a US problem, it is an EU problem. That is what a great majority of Americans are saying. The US and EU are learning a great deal from this war. One thing learned is that an isolated country the size of Russia will survive all sanctions. Just like the EU would survive and the US would survive if isolated. The US is not responsible for preventing any Russian attacks anywhere. The world has gotten used to the US being the police force, and its long past time for the rest of the world to defend themselves, and if the US feels like joining in then it can.

As for China, the US is already refurbishing air bases in the pacific that were used in WW2 to carryout the bombing of Japan. They will be fully operational next year, and all the airports, and military landing strips are near ready now.

I see further than months and a few years. I see the US having a need to focus on itself and its legal citizens because they have been ignored since the 80's. Just as Poland takes care of Poland first, it should be the same in every country. Fvck immigration, and let the tribes in Africa continue to kill each other. It is not your or mine problem. Fvck the middle east, and let them kill each other. Maybe then, we can stop worrying about terrorist attacks because they will be bombing each other.

In eleven months there will be a new President Elect in the US. Between now and then, the US will send a bunch of arms and give Ukraine one last chance to break through. After that, its over. If they cant break through, they need to negotiate. The next president wont be funding any of this nonsense before taking care of American Citizens, adressing homelessness and all the mental health issues so obviously needing to be addressed. Any person who says that the wealthiest country in the world should take care of another country before taking care of its own citizens is insane.

Actually, it is unless the US chooses the isolationist policy again like over 100 years before.
Remember, the US built its status of a superpower engaging in European affairs.
It is amassing but Am seem not to understand the position of their country as a global player strictly combines with its deep relations with Europe.


It is sad that Am elites aren`t able to explain basic things and educate dumb commons.

PolAmKrakow]that an isolated country the size of Russia will survive all sanctions

Why are you so impatient? Wait a little to see better effects of the old sanctions. Besides, not all potential sanctions have been introduced yet.

PolAmKrakow]As for China, the US is already refurbishing air bases

Saying so, you sound you look forward to a war against China. Amasing.
While I said that the future war can be avoided if the US contribute to Russia`s clear failure now.

PolAmKrakow]Maybe then, we can stop worrying about terrorist attacks because they will be bombing each other.

That is naive thinking and you know it. Pleeeaase......... Terrorists will never give up coz the US would have to withdraw not only militarily but also economically from ALL the regions of the world to be left alone by terrorists.

Does Ukraine have the necessary pilots???


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