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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 8



jon357
28 Nov 2023  #151

done what Churchill advised the americans, to use german, Polish and other troops to invade the soviet union, and push back the iron curtain, before they got the bomb.

Yes, we should. There was a tiny window of opportunity and the Seppos missed it.

I have heard many people in PL advocate for this.

Novichok
28 Nov 2023  #152

Yes, we should.

Hey, PF keyboard hero, that window is open now wider than ever.... Go fo it, suicidal moron...

The west ie western people,

Those Western people that can't defend their own Western woke dumps from the hordes of "refugees"? Or did you mean Americans?
Are you a Western people, ready to attack Russia today? Russia is "weakened" now so what a perfect oppo, military genius...

Novichok
28 Nov 2023  #153

From:

express.co.uk/news/world/1839541/ukraine-war-russia-running-short-troops-war-zelensky-putin

Ukraine in trouble as it's 'running short' on troops and 'prospects of success look dim'
Ukraine's grinding counteroffensive against Russia has failed to make any major breakthroughs - and Kyiv is also rapidly losing soldiers.

As Russia's war in Ukraine approaches the three-year mark, Ukraine is rapidly losing its well-trained infantry on the battlefront and any chance of defeating Russia is dwindling.

While Russian President Vladimir Putin is militarising the Russian economy, replenishing its army, and producing more and more weapons, Ukraine is falling behind.


Don't lie. According to the latest report from jon and maf, Ukraine has all it needs to win, Russia ran out of ammo 6 months ago, and Putin is on his deathbed awaiting trial at the ICC.

Alien
28 Nov 2023  #154

Ukraine has all it needs to win,

Ukraine wins every day... a little bit.

Velund
28 Nov 2023  #155

latest report from jon and maf

This sweet couple doing all they can to support morale of people, tired from stupidity of ukrainian clownfuhrer...

Ukraine wins every day... a little bit.

Wile losing same day... a large chunk. ;)

Novichok
28 Nov 2023  #156

Ukraine wins every day...

Please write to express.co.uk so they will stop lying.

Novichok
28 Nov 2023  #157

tired from stupidity of ukrainian clownfuhrer...

That was not fair, Velund. Anybody who can bullsh*it the best of Western brains into dumping all that cash onto his and his buddies' laps can't be stupid.

Rumor has it that Z already has his exit ramp and that he just bought himself a yacht or two in Dubai. I wonder if he will invite me for a cruise since I paid for part of it.

Velund
28 Nov 2023  #158

has his exit ramp

Stupidity is to forget who will wait him at the end of this ramp, and with which information extracting tools... ;)

Alien
28 Nov 2023  #159

he just bought himself a yacht or two in Dubai.

and moor them next to Putin's yachts?

PolAmKrakow
28 Nov 2023  #160

@Velund
I have to agree with you. His only safe place is in the US or Canada with a lot of armed security for the rest of his life or the rest of Vlads life. The middle east would see him get lost in a sand storm or fall out of a window. I dont even think he is safe in Israel. Similar to the head of Ukraines spy agency had his wife poisoned in Ukraine.

Meanwhile, the US congress back to work and the Speaker is saying any aid to Ukraine will still be tied to border security, while aid to Israel likely to be approved on its own. The US talking to Greece about buying ammo from them for Ukraine. Anyone still believing in Biden is going to be disappointed.

Velund
28 Nov 2023  #161

with a lot of armed security

Do you mean prison guards? ;)

Novichok
28 Nov 2023  #162

and moor them next to Putin's yachts?

I don't care if Putin uses hundred-dollar bills to light up his cigars. I didn't pay for either. Z, on the other hand, is on my welfare.

Do you mean prison guards? ;)

Some are safer in than out.
I like watching the last moments of Mr. and Mrs. Ceausescu.

Alien
28 Nov 2023  #163

didn't pay for either.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Putin is responsible for America's crisis. And you have to pay.

Bobko
28 Nov 2023  #164

There was a tiny window of opportunity and the Seppos missed it.

I have heard many people in PL advocate for this.

What?! Come again?

Why then, did Paulina and Co. spend a year convincing me that only right wing nutters seriously entertain the idea putting boots on the ground in Ukraine?

Now you're calling it a "missed opportunity"?

Maybe Putin isn't so paranoid after all...

Also, to be clear - I think sending Polish/Baltic forces into Ukraine would be a disastrous decision. Hopefully the first people to bonk you on your head for such stupidity would be the Americans and the Germans.

They didn't admit you into NATO, so that you could drag them into a war against Russia.

Velund
28 Nov 2023  #165

Putin is responsible for America's crisis.

Did Putin $hit in your pants, too?

Alien
28 Nov 2023  #166

Figuratively...yes

Novichok
28 Nov 2023  #167

Putin is responsible for America's crisis.

Nope. America is responsible for America's crisis.
Nobody forced America to open its borders to foreign invasion and to run up its debt to 34 trillion. Or to have damn wars 90% of the time.

Or ship manufacturing jobs to China and Mexico.

The four plagues that are killing America are all self-inflicted. Russia had nothing to do with any of that.

Bobko
28 Nov 2023  #168

Figuratively...yes

If Putin physically shat in your pants, you could make a good deal of money selling his sh!t to the CIA.

In Cold War times, a famous joke was that American Kremlinologists knew when the toilet paper was changed in the Kremlin.

However, what was not so well known, was that the CIA had also tapped the sewage lines under the Kremlin, so that they could collect stool samples on Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, etc.

The KGB discovered this operation, and therefore tasked an Olympic weight lifter to sh!t on Brezhnev's toilet. This misled the Americans into thinking Brezhnev had the health of a 25 year old Olympian.

Alien
28 Nov 2023  #169

thinking Brezhnev had the health of a 25 year old Olympian.

I'm guessing the residual alcohol was the same for both.

Miloslaw
28 Nov 2023  #170

But as a young man you decided to leave Russian occupied Poland forever.......so it was not exactly a paradise was it?

Man up and answer the question.

Rich, you continue to not answer my question..... Why did you leave Poland, forever, if it was such a Russian controlled Communist paradise?

Answer the question or forever be labeled a coward.

Cargo pants
28 Nov 2023  #171

@Bobko
Hey man why did you buy your co.op/condo on 57th street?we bought on 23rd and 57th cuz they are 2 way streets,we were also looking on 14th and 34th,but ones on 34th are untouchable,nothing less then 3.5 plus HOA is a killer.

amiga500
29 Nov 2023  #172

on the ground in Ukraine?

Now you're calling it a "missed opportunity"?

Sorry, you went into low-iq moron mode. We were discussing Churchill's proposition to the yanks, to invade the Soviet Union just after WW2. Also 1946-1948, even after he lost the election to labour. His whole point was to push back the Iron Curtain then, instead of a Stalinist fait complet

mafketis
29 Nov 2023  #173

Why did you leave Poland, forever

His official story (if you believe it.... which I don't) is that he left because he couldn't make enough money.... and can't make the connection to Poland's forced participation in the CCCP's 'trading' block that was bleeding the country dry.

Not a systemic thinker.

amiga500
29 Nov 2023  #174

Please tell the new Polish Government to change the constitution to give every polish citizen his/her/zer right to dip his bread in the blood of ruski children at least once a year.

Crnogorac3
29 Nov 2023  #175

@Bobko

The final (humiliating) order US Marines received before their departure from Afghanistan was to clean up the poop and mop up the urine at the Kabul airport from 10's of thousands of Afghans who had camped out there for days, in order to leave it spotless nice and shining when the Talibans arrived.

opindia.com/2023/09/us-soldiers-ordered-to-clean-human-feces-at-kabul-airport-before-returning-to-usa/

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12504415/Marines-Kabul-human-feces-botched-Afghanistan.html

😁

The story of the humiliation faced by US soldiers has been chronicled in a newly published book titled, "Kabul: The Untold Story of Biden's Fiasco and the American Warriors Who Fought to the End."

k

American troops seem very profficient at cleaning up other peoples $hit.

LOL

Alien
29 Nov 2023  #176

clean up the poop and mop up the urine at the Kabul airport from 10's of thousands of Afghans who had camped out there, in order to leave it spotless nice and shining when Talibans arrived.

And that's the difference, the Americans cleaned it up, the russians would have messed it up even more.

PolAmKrakow
29 Nov 2023  #177

@Crnogorac3
What was the final order when NATO left Serbia? Bang as many Serb women you want?

Meanwhile in the war in Ukraine, there is a NATO meeting today and Ukraine is going to have to face some hard truths. Europe is becoming divided over supporting Ukraine and that division includes NATO states. Sweden just told Turkey that they wont be getting in the EU as well. More political turmoil for the EU and NATO while Ukraine continues to vow they will not back down. War fatigue has definitely set in.

PolAmKrakow
29 Nov 2023  #178

A fresh report from the Washington Post with insider information is saying that Ukraine will not get any more support wihout very real changes in the immigration rules, and the presidential use of "parole" for large groups of immigrants. The failure to remove that support will keep Ukraine unfunded for the time to come. This is the Trump plan, and they are sticking to it. Biden is completely fvcked on Ukraine now, and it is because he fvcked the country with mass illegal immigration. Ukraine should be endorsing anyone other than biden for the next president if a deal isnt struck soon.

mafketis
29 Nov 2023  #179

Ukraine will not get any more support wihout very real changes in the immigration rules

And again, whatever they decide about Ukraine there will be no real changes to the immigration rules. This is a very crude divide and conquer tactic designed to get different elements of the electorate at each other's throats instead of holding a fire to the feet of politicians from both parties.

Biden's weak non-leadership in Afghanistan and the way he caved on Nord Stream 2 helped embolden russia to increase their invasion in Feb 2022.

Trump on the other hand held firm on Nord Stream 2 and sent weapons to Ukraine (after Clinton/Bush/Obama refused to). so he might not be the compliant wuss that russia is hoping for. I don't like Trump but I've never bought the 'russian puppet' narrative.

PolAmKrakow
29 Nov 2023  #180

@mafketis
You must be trying to rewright history. Trump wanted out of Ukraine, and out of NATO. Afghanistan withdrawl was set up by Trump not Biden. Biden actually extended the time to withdraw or it would have been worse. Your take on US illegal immigration is completely off base, and this line has been drawn and the republicans are not moving, they havent moved for months. No money for Ukraine since August because of immigration. Ukraine is running out of ammo. Who blinks first Dems over supplying ammo to Ukraine or Republicans giving what the majority of Americans want? My bet is on the Dems blinking in the next week.


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