Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 8

....it's "chose", isn't it?

*grumbles*

They didn't really suffer... They were allowed to tyrannize the Jews and others... The photo shows the events of the pogrom in Lvov 30.06-2.7.1941. Look at these spiritualized faces.

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And later - everything seemed not so bad, too...

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@Velund

All these people are dead, and it's been almost 80 years since, and still the sight of these collaborationists makes my blood boil.

Can you imagine what the Nazis thought about them? They must have been pretty amused, to say the least.

I know the Nazis were positively shocked by the bestiality of Lithuanians and Latvians in exterminating Jews and Russians. But maybe that somehow still made sense to them. Discovering these rare idiots in Western Ukraine must have been something else entirely.

- "Hermann, zees people know vee hate zer guts, no?"

- "I don't know, Franz, eet iz very strange indeed."

...and it's not a matter of my opinion. One would have to be blind or incredibly ignorant of history and sociology not to notice those similarities.


Realistic and commonsensical. Every time there was a diplomatic sh*tstorm between Poland and Russia, and as a result mutual or unilateral embargoes were introduced, Dutch or German companies had no problem at all with taking Polish place in the Russian market. It's really difficult to see any positive sides of this "default enmity" mode between Russia and Poland.


If Poles were more like the Czechs (realistic and mercantile) a lot of the problems between Russia and Poland would disappear. We are, however, anything but. How do you think an average Czech would react to being told that his country is now going to be "the shield of the West", "antemurale Christianitas" or "the Christ of nations"? Yeah... exactly...


United Nations would have to be given sh*tloads of nukes and the authorisation to fire them en masse at any country that starts an aggressive war. Or we can go back to my brilliant idea of the League of Assasins, remember? Now, let's get back to reality. ;)

Yeah, we were also Slavs when RuSSia was partitioning Poland, attacking it, invading it, occupying it, killing our people, raping our women burning our houses, stealing our lands and other stuff. It didn't stop RuSSia that we were Slavs lol


LOL
Interesting "euphemism". You partitioned our country and took away our independence.
I don't think it's smart to remind Poles of that lol o_O 🤦 Those are bad memories for Poles.


But Poles couldn't be further away from the "RuSSian perspective" o_O We have completely opposite "perspectives". So why would we advocate yours? lol


And you don't know or understand why?

Bobko, were you born under a rock? How can you be so completely ignorant and delusional?

Maybe you missed that little detail, but Germany in general had no problem with making business as usual with RuSSia, no matter what RuSSia did and look where it led...

"Partitioning", "attacking", "invading", "occupying" - all mean the same thing. Usually, as part of this process some people are killed - yes.

As part of the unification of Rus, or even the much later Russian Civil War there was also a lot of "invading", "attacking", "occupying". It didn't mean Russians stopped seeing each other as Slavs, just because one is from Ryazan and another is from Novgorod.

Maybe I am doing this clumsily, but I am trying to make the point that you are yet again charging Russia with some ahistorical crime that you never seem to level against the Swedes, Austrians, or Prussians. Probably because they are now either gay, microscopic, or nonexistent.

As far as raping your women, stealing your land, and "other stuff" - I'd like to understand what you are talking about.

Absolutely horrifying....one can't really believe that truly happened!

About your reaction though....that's similiar to what Hamas just did, and importantly which has more of that in store for Jews, but no such deservedly harsh judgement for the Palis as for Ukrainians....may I ask why?

"Partitioning" - 1772, 1793, 1795
"attacking" - 1920
"invading" - 1939
"occupying" - 1939 - 1989

Btw, as for the "process" and "people are killed" - maybe it's news to you, but when you invade a country, kill their people and take away their country's independence - the people in that country tend to hate you after that lol And the more often you do that - the more they hate you o_O


Look above. ⬆️ (or read a non-RuSSian history book)


No, that's because it's been long time since the last time Sweden attacked Poland (and RuSSia kept doing that) and as for Austrians and "Prussians" - they've changed and are no threat to us or any of their neighbours, while RuSSians haven't changed and RuSSia is a threat and keeps invading and threatening their neighbours.

It would be more similar, if for example, a bunch of Jews were made to live in a very small area surrounded by walls. Then, supplies of critical building materials and food were to be artificially rationed, to this population of Jews living in a small segregated area. Further, a dehumanizing legal regime would be put in place, that made Jews second class to any other human being.

To continue the analogy... after some years of being treated like wild beasts, the Jews would start stockpiling crude weapons and organizing into underground cells. Perhaps they even build some tunnels, so their work can go undetected. Then finally, one fine day they go rampaging out of this area, let's call it a ghetto, and killing any German man or woman they see in a murderous frenzy.

That would truly be a similar situation, but fortunately such a thing has never happened, or at least I have not heard of such a thing.

...now the terrorized jewish women will be relieved to hear that...if they survived!

@Bratwurst Boy

That's an umbrella with an interesting design! Very edgy.

Is it an ancient Indian symbol of fertility, or proto-Slavic symbol of the cosmos? I must check with Ukrainian colleagues.

....today radical Islamists with their dream of the extincion of Israel aka "from the river to the sea" have alot in common with the Nazis of old....hence the jewish "Never Again!"

....and still...they have your support! But Ukrainians not....strange....just saying....

@Bratwurst Boy

Don't worry, your Ukrainians are still good at Pogroms too.

Old school style, as well. Like, herding people into a building and then lighting it on fire - old school.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes?wprov=sfti1

Are they....today?

An oldie from 2012...but surely relevant today too:


memri.org/tv/footage-palestinians-lebanon-shown-saluting-nazihizbullah-style

@Paulina
Bobko doesn't understand or knows why because of ingrained look on centralisation as the basis of a state, in Civilizations and societies that has it's fundamental in a power being centralised in a powerful head of state (be it president or Monarch)

So when you are confused about a Russian's dismissal of Polish grievances, it is mostly because of the nature of the Polish-Lithuanian Republic. What Duchy of Lithuania did was and is seen to this very day as caused by Poland and the west in general, which again explains why this narrative is extremely important to uphold in Russian media to this very day. Why do you think Russian media and it's fans underline every Polish or western mercenary? To remind every single Russian of the horrors that were experienced in the past of western aggression that were done outmost cruelly by "Lisowczycy" with tactics learned from Swedes in religious wars (1500-1700 was when most wars with Muscovites were performed between Poland-Lithuania and Muscovy/Russia, in practice by Duchy of Lithuania)

So from Polish point of view Poland (meaning Crown lands of Poland as in "Korona", didn't do anything to Muscovy directly. Therefore Muscovy/Russian aggression was seen as first attempted aggression towards Poland (Crown lands of Poland), while aggression performed by Duchy of Lithuania (That had her own armies) was seen as their fellow Rus people being tricked, misguided and influenced by the west and lured by Poland and it's elites to bring the downfall and destruction of their Rus Empire and it's people and as first agression from Poland as a whole cause Russian perspective cannot fathom the realities and complexities of Polish-Lithuanian Republic that lingers and you can hear echoes from to this very day.

Poland sees Russia as first aggressor and defending herself always, while Russia sees herself in need to be first to attack before a attack commences, otherwise she experiences being attacked by being passive and trustful while not seeing how Belarussians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Finns, Swedes, Germans and Turks play both sides brilliantly by being silent and keep both antagonised against each other as much as possible! Duh!

Mhmm.

Not just pogroms, but they do lynchings too! They borrow from many cultures.

However, they do it with a unique Ukrainian twist. Lots of cellophane tape, some notes of BDSM, and lots of green dye.

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Today's comedy gold..... A Serbian by the name of Dejan Berić who fancies himself part of "putin's team" was encouraging Serbs to come to Ukraine to fight for the tsar....

Hilarity ensues as those dim enough to believe him are treated like "cattle" and not given any supplies.... he has a sad.....

twitter.com/victoriaslog/status/1744606486431490400

Mainly from RuSSian culture in this respect, it seems lol:

Polish State ruled by King Stanislaw August was extremely friendly towards Russia, I would say you couldn't be friendlier, and looks where it all ended. So no, stop your jokes, and admit that Russia does not have a serious offer for Poland. Blame yourself not us.

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🤡 On UkroTV on the eve of Christmas, Ukrainians in the form of devils dance in the church and wish death to Russians

In the satanic video, the devils wish Russians "illness in every family, accidents and a five-star scaffold in Moscow,"

t.me/intelslava/54457

msn.com/en-ca/news/world/sweden-states-all-citizens-must-be-prepared-for-war/ar-AA1mDNPb

Shame I feel bad for little Sweden, I cant imagine them going to war with anyone by themselves.

The sooner they can join NATO the better because then they at least will be protected from Russian invasion.

Crno why aren't you joining the Serb battalion LOL ?

Bring your own sprats !

youtube.com/watch?v=otpswE_bdCE

Another heart breaking video from Russell as he tries " DOMINO" pizza Udmurtian style - once again he is literally the only guy in the restaurant and no wonder - since the fridge is empty except for some crappy fake ass Udmurtian soda and "pizza" looks like something we would get at a rural gas station

Domino's is pizza delivery chain, I never seen more than 1-2 persons who eating right there. But regularly see their delivery cars in my block.

Personally I prefer former Pizza Hut (now Pizza H, nothing else changed). ;)

Elons Dad just said former ukraine is run by kikes who hate Russia because of reasons... same for the kwa, 😎

youtube.com/shorts/CwuNFTKIXfE

They didn't even really change the name - how lame is that lol:

reuters.com/markets/europe/restaurateur-rapper-take-former-dominos-pizza-outlets-russia-2023-08-30/

"A Russian restaurateur and a pro-Kremlin rapper who together bought Starbucks' business in Russia last year are now taking over the Russian assets of Domino's Pizza, they announced on Wednesday.

Anton Pinskiy and Timati said they would run the restaurants under the barely changed brand Domino Pizza, with the 'i' in Domino replaced by the equivalent Russian letter и."

Can't RuSSians invent their own brands? lol

People can be critical of the Russian rip offs. Like the fake Microsoft Office that Russia used to distribute, a fake is a fake. But the Russian people with money buying up these assets are pretty smart. People will still buy from them. Dominos pizza not so hard to copy and sell. This leaves Dominos having to buy back those ocations if they ever go back into Russia, and the Russians profiting from the sale, or blocks them from going back in and being as big as they were.

These companies who left, gave Russian people opportunity. Sure there was some initial pain, but going on two years now and everyone is learning how to do without or how to enjoy the copies. These sanctions arent doing much of anything as long as Russian oil can keep being sold. If anything, it has taught Russians how to do without, or how to smuggle better.

And now, Orban is saying he will remove his veto if the EU makes Ukraine funding an annual vote and not something that happens every four or five years. Sounds reasonable to me. Why isnt the EU acting on this?

@PolAmKrakow, I'm not commenting on whether the sanctions work or not, but on lack of creativity and ingenuity in RuSSia. RuSSians were bragging that they will be making their own stuff now, but it looks like that they aren't - they're just taking over and copying Western stuff - both brands and products, it seems: