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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



Novichok
17 Mar 2024  #3061

Putin leads with 87.17% of the votes.

Biden must be having a bad day... He never saw 87 in his entire life except as the octane number on a gas pump.

Crnogorac3
17 Mar 2024  #3062

Pocepo ih Vlado ko svinja masan džak.

Podero ih ko siromah napolitanke.

Novichok
17 Mar 2024  #3063

NATO has boots on the ground in Ukraine - Putin
The bloc's service members are dying in large numbers, the Russian President says


Kill them all.

Velund
18 Mar 2024  #3064

What did the US get from spending trillions, bringing 100,000+ dead Americans in body bags, and killing millions

Relatives of US politicians, who is responsible for nominally holding family MICC shares, know this, but will never say this to the public. ;) And no, repairing of rusting bridges somewhere in Alabama is not profitable at all for them. No pain - no gain...

Kill them all.

We already work on this.

Torq
18 Mar 2024  #3065

we are gonna take every single person in the West with us to the other side

I have to say this is slightly disturbing. I mean the fact that you consider mass murder (with the use of nuclear weapons, I assume) of "every single person in the West" if the war doesn't go the way Russia planned and there are consequences of it (as there always are).

I will tell you a secret, Bobi - most people in the West give singularly little f*ck about Ukraine, Russia, russkiy mir, the number of states (or statelets) that there are or will be in the wild eastern steppes etc. It's just the way it is - they don't give a f*ck. You may or may not have noticed that I am on PF much less often than I used to. The reason for it is that I bought a fish tank (nothing too fancy, 125 litres, standard fish) and I find it immensely more interesting than PF or the war in Ukraine. I would risk a bet that for 99% of people in the West their hobbies, football teams, fish tanks etc. etc. are way more important than the future shape of Russia's political borders. The fact that you want to murder those people and their families with the use of nukes is quite telling.

However, having said that, the only conclusion we can have is: bring it on b*tches. We've had it with constant nuclear threats and bullying - even for an incorrigible Russophile like me it's a bit too much. Bring it on. :) The only problem is that the thieves running your country would rather continue sh*tting on their golden toilets, and enjoy their yachts, power and money than die in a nuclear war or hide undergrund like rats for the rest of their lives. The "elites" have much more to lose than us, ordinary folks.

So, I'm afraid there won't be a nuclear holocaust, no matter how much some people's feelings (or arses) are hurting.

mafketis
18 Mar 2024  #3066

benefits from "killing people" and "stealing stuff".

So you have no foundation for opposing the mass importation of illegal migrants into your neighborhood. Shut you mouth on that issue. It's just people behaving normally.

Velund
18 Mar 2024  #3067

It's just the way it is - they don't give a f*ck.

Kanja, we would prefer to concentrate on our families and hobbies as well. But there is some burden associated to living in a country that pretend to be democratic - you are responsible for everything that your politicians doing. Simply because there is nobody who is more responsible than you, citizen with a voting right.

If government deceive you, like during last elections in united states of something, and rigged election results - you still responsible for everything. Because nobody else had right to intervene, except you. If you don't try to correct the situation - you are responsible.

Culture or stable political systrem cannot be changed from outside, outsiders can just destroy it. So for example, if finnish politicians without referendum decided to destroy results of a half century of peaceful cooperation and trust, and join NATO to hand the fate of Finnish people to a US puppets in Brussels - we cannot intervene until situation will become incompatible with existence of our own state. And all that we can do further - is to destroy decision making centers and military installations, doesn't matter which collateral damage will be associated with this.

mafketis
18 Mar 2024  #3068

if finnish politicians ... decided to destroy results of a half century of peaceful cooperation and trust

Finns were not the ones to break that trust. russia invaded Ukraine for a bunch of fake reasons and Finns realized russians can never be trusted.

situation will become incompatible with existence of our own state

everyday russians who just sit there and take it are responsible for everything terrible russian governments do. Agreed. If russia collapses then that is on russians and no one else.

The mafia wars of the 1990s were entirely the fault of russians who decided to shoot each other and steal everything that wasn't nailed down rather than go through the hard process of becoming a more normal country (as happened in Poland and later Ukraine).

Velund
18 Mar 2024  #3069

The mafia wars of the 1990s were entirely the fault of russians

Not entirely, but we was able to re-stabilize our political system and remove "injected" compradors from power. Furthrer attempts to "export democracy" to Russia and feast on their resources while Russians kill each other in a mafia wars will be met in kind. And attempts to "solve" this by military means will be answered by everything we have on hand. Period.

mafketis
18 Mar 2024  #3070

Not entirely

What choices made by non-russians caused the disruptions of the 1990s?

attempts to "export democracy" to Russia and feast on their resources while Russians kill each other in a mafia wars will be met in kind

Agreed that democracy in russia is a non-starter. Democracy requires adults, not cranky children.

and 'feast on their resources' is another way of saying 'improving the lives of everyday russians' which is not a priority for any russian government (or for russian citizens for that matter).

cms neuf
18 Mar 2024  #3071

"Everything we have on hand"

LOL

Crappy ships manned by drunks that can be blown up by toy drones
Korean War rifles that your alky troops are to lazy to clean
Tanks last seen in the Prague Spring
Helicopters from the 80s that somehow managed to evade Stingers fired by shoeless tribesmen

And let's not forget the fastest fighter jets in the world that have remained mysteriously in their hangars for two years.

Anyway "all you have on hand" will be used to oppress your own people for the next few years. I would call them citizens but Putler treats them like dumb kids

mafketis
18 Mar 2024  #3072

Latest insane self-own by russian propagandists...

They use a pro-Kremlin russian-speaking pro-Kremlin Latvian to "prove" the existence of nazis in Latvia.... ramp up of the same fake rhetoric used about Ukraine....

but sure.... peace talks.... negotiations.....

pull the other one.

Mr Grunwald
18 Mar 2024  #3073

if finnish politicians

Nordic countries are very small and tight knit, everybody almost knows everybody's business. Similar situation to Ireland (Atch can confirm this). It's just an enlarged village basically.

I would be deeply surprised (since I come from a Norwegian background, Norway was under Denmark for a long time. Finland was under Sweden for a long time) if any Finish politician took this decision lightly.

If anything is remotely closest in mentality between Norwegians and Finns it is the wish to be left alone for any price what so ever. Norwegians have their cottages while Finns have their forests and Saunas.

Velund of many Russian patriots you are one of those that have a lot of self control and smart comebacks (I'll grant you that). If you think that Finns have wished for to enter NATO without Russia's actions doing anything then you are sadly mistaken and don't understand Finns whatsoever.

If not for Germans invading in 1940. Norway would probably be not in NATO until conflict in Ukraine. Then it would also apply for NATO

Russia sending military forces to a large European state in modern times signals it can do the same to every other similar size, slightly larger or smaller (the willingness, mean also increasing possibility)

If Russian decision makers did not expect this type of reaction in Europe. Then I understand the surprise from Russian side

Novichok
18 Mar 2024  #3074

you are responsible for everything that your politicians doing.

Yes, obedient "democracy" loving azholes, you are responsible for the crimes committed directly or indirectly in your name by your governments.
That includes rapes, murders, and destruction by migrants.

That makes dictatorships like the one in the US easier to deal with psychologically. That's why I didn't feel responsible for the invasion of Iraq and the deaths of thousands or for the rapes and other crimes by the illegal scum flooding the country as we speak.

Thanks for making this point, Velund...

Russia sending military forces to a large European state in modern times signa

Russian military forces are in Russia. It is the UA that is the aggressor.

Ukraine, out of Russia!

mafketis
18 Mar 2024  #3075

Ukraine, out of Russia!

Silly old senile teddy bear..... Ukraine is not in russia, russia is in Ukraine.

Tacitus
18 Mar 2024  #3076

@Novichok

Russian military forces are in Russia.

Just for the record: Where is the border between Russian and Ukraine in your opinion?

Novichok
18 Mar 2024  #3077

The border is where Russia says it is.

NATO moved its 1990 borders when additional countries applied to join NATO.
Russia moved its borders when additional territories applied to join the Russian Federation.

See self-rule and self-determination and the foundations of democracy.

Alien
18 Mar 2024  #3078

The border is where Russia says it is.

I heard that the russians want Alaska back. Is it enough to say so to get it back?

Novichok
18 Mar 2024  #3079

Is it enough to say so to get it back?

After:

1. A referendum in Alaska to separate from the US.
2. Alaska asking to join the Russian Federation.

To see how Step 1 works, see Kosovo.

PolAmKrakow
18 Mar 2024  #3080

@Alien
Certainly Russia can have Alaska back after a referendum, and after Russia pays the USA back the purchase price paid at todays inflationary costs, and then Alaska can seek to join the federation assuming the referendum is successful. See, Russia sold Alaska to the US, and voluntarily did so. A little different situation.

Now Putin is planning on a "buffer zone" in Ukraine to protect the territory he has taken. Ukraine, whats the fvcking plan to take back this territory?

Crnogorac3
18 Mar 2024  #3081

Traitors Soroshoids only 4.08% of votes
What a healthy environment that Russia is

Soroshoids fell to 3.8% after 99.5% of the votes were counted.

"His opponent from the Communist Party, Nikolay Kharitonov, is expected to come in second with 4.3%, followed by Vladislav Davankov of the New People party (3.8%) and Leonid Slutsky of the Liberal Democrats (3.2%)."

Novichok
18 Mar 2024  #3082

after Russia pays the USA back the purchase price ...

...plus investments, the value of oil, and future profits.

Crnogorac3
18 Mar 2024  #3083

🇷🇺🇺🇦 In Sumy on March 13, Major of the 27th Artillery Brigade Denis Savchenko was liquidated.

t.me/intelslava/56101

Novichok
18 Mar 2024  #3084

Artillery Brigade Denis Savchenko was liquidated.

Whites killing whites...I hate it.

Novichok
18 Mar 2024  #3085

About that "democracy"... Quoting:

Timofey Bordachev: The West loves democracy until it gets results it doesn't like
The US and its allies have tried to manipulate this country's politics since the Soviet Union collapsed in the early 1990s


Really? I am told that only Russia colludes and manipulates...I am shocked...

At least Western scum is consistent in hating referenda - at home or in Crimea...

I am still waiting for one that would ask if I want our borders open...

Crnogorac3
18 Mar 2024  #3086

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Velund
18 Mar 2024  #3087

and after Russia pays the USA back the purchase price paid at todays inflationary costs

What about requesting purchase price adjusted for inflation from Latvia and Estonia (purchased in 1721 and 1795 from legal owners and paid in full)? And, if you can remember, no any referendums was there and recognition was signed by wrong side (Bolsheviks that refuse to be responsible for any Russian Empire obligations).

Crnogorac3
18 Mar 2024  #3088

Fragment of an interview with the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation S.V. Lavrov for the program "Evening with Vladimir Solovyov" on the TV channel "Russia 1", Moscow, March 14, 2024.



Crnogorac3
18 Mar 2024  #3089

Regards

Ladies and Gentlemen,

please stand up!

twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1769443375193653496

Crnogorac3
18 Mar 2024  #3090

Putin


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