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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



Mr Grunwald
31 Jan 2024  #541

@Bobko
When Russia gives back Crown of Poland, which the Tsars took (and Soviets gave back on allowing a crown back on Poland's white eagle) and stops questioning Poland's borders not only in theory and speech but also in practice.

Then Poland can give back property, even if payment was neglected.

Bobko
31 Jan 2024  #542

When Russia gives back Crown of Poland, which the Tsars took

Why, you have a King or Queen you would like to crown?

Novichok
31 Jan 2024  #543

Bobko...Now I am going to do pawian:

The Washington-based institution now expects Russian GDP to grow by 2.6% this year, a sharp increase from its October forecast of 1.1% growth.

...all thanks to r*SSian women who made r*SSia a world-class power despite their oppressive fathers and husbands ... hahahahahahahaha...Simple...

Tell me, what will you do with my $300B?

Gender change surgeries and migrants...

Mr Grunwald
31 Jan 2024  #544

@Bobko
Well if you don't know, then you don't know. It would be first signal to communicate wish on improvement of relations. To this day, the last remnants of the Tsars still concluded to be the King's of Poland. If the head of state of the Russian Federation is the continuation of the Russian Tsardom, then it is fully within it's rights to claim to no longer be King of Poland or have any right to such title.

It would sound like nonsense, or wouldn't change much. But for sure would open ears and mouths in Polish society and perhaps even warm a few hearts. If it would be the goal.

If goal would be to be petty, then a comment from Russian diplomacy could be that Polish white eagle "should lose it's crown again" *shrugs*

Ironside
31 Jan 2024  #545

Ever consider that?

hmm. I think in terms of compensation and reparation but that is only a dream Poland won't see that money.

Bobko
31 Jan 2024  #546

I think in terms of compensation and reparation

Compensate me for trying to put a Polish prince on the Russian throne, and burning half my country.

Compensate me for supporting Tatars and Cossacks outlaws that kidnapped and sold my people into slavery.

Compensate me for doing everything to be the "civilized Slav", while painting us as "savages" that only you could act as interlocutor for.

Ironside
31 Jan 2024  #547

Compensate me

lol! If we start that list I will have to stay awake for 48 hours and type like crazy. So, let's stop it now and just give us back our Smolensk.

By the way, a chunk of your boyars wanted that prince on the throne in Moscow.
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supporting Tatars and Cossacks outlaws

Hey, they are green people of unknown allegiance who had nothing to do with us. You believed Putin you can believe me.
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for doing everything to be the "civilized Slav",

That is something I don't understand, I'm puzzled over that. Who wants to be a civilized Slav? What it is all about?

Mr Grunwald
31 Jan 2024  #548

Compensate me for trying to put a Polish prince on the Russian throne, and burning half my country.

In what way could Poland compensate for that. Amount of dollars or rubels? And how many? Or actions? At least first steps

Tell us, give us a list

Torq
31 Jan 2024  #549

Children, children...

Bobko
31 Jan 2024  #550

Tell us, give us a list

No list necessary. Just try to be friends.

Stop asking for compensation. We suffered ourselves. For every 20,000 you lost in Katyn, we lost 200,000 of our own officers to the maniacs in power.

Stop waiting for us to beg for forgiveness - we have our own complaints against you.

Stop lecturing us about morals and God. We have our own experience with God.

Notice - it's only Poland asking for anything. Russia just wants to be friends.

Mr Grunwald
31 Jan 2024  #551

@Torq

Children, children...

What? I want to see if it's just emotional throwbacks, actual grievances or way to unnerve us. I want the truth

Hmm, just be friends.

Torq
31 Jan 2024  #552

. Russia just wants to be friends.

Oh, we're more than friends. Fate twins, I'd say.

Crow may be on a slightly higher level of madness than I am but when the wind is southerly he can tell a hawk from a handsaw, and he once said that when Russia falls, Poland's demise will be close, and vice versa.

And yet we are always pitted against each other. Isn't there some sort of deadly poetry in it?

I want the truth

Don't we all?

Bobko
31 Jan 2024  #553

Fate twins, I'd say.

I think Ukraine must be included in this dance.

The Belarusians, or Litvins, or whatever you want to call them - have always been a surprisingly peaceful people in comparison to us other three. They just seem to go along with whatever the majority wants. An amazing people, without inflated ego, living in their forests.

Minsk is an amazing city.

Torq
31 Jan 2024  #554

@Bobko

I like you, dobri brate. Your heart is kind and you seem to notice a lot of things.

As for Litwini... they are better people than we are.

Ironside
31 Jan 2024  #555

children...

Grandma Torq has spoken lol!

Torq
31 Jan 2024  #556

Grandma? Baba Yaga more like.

Paulina
31 Jan 2024  #557

Notice - it's only Poland asking for anything. Russia just wants to be friends.

No, RuSSia is asking for something - so Poland wouldn't ask for anything... You want to be friends, but on your terms. You don't care about our terms.

Torq
31 Jan 2024  #558

You don't care about our terms.

I think Russians know what we want. They are simply not ready to give it to us (hence the current danse macabre), even though it's the only thing that can stop both our demise.

HINT: Why Poland had to leave the Warsaw Pact, even though there were many people quite happy with the arrangement? What did the Good Colonel Kukliński learn? Why it is only Poland who can shield Russia from the West? Why does it have to be independent Poland with nukes, not a Russian vassal?

Answers are all quite simple really and yet so many people refuse to see them. Strange.

Torq
31 Jan 2024  #559

independent Poland with nukes

... and no, the American ones in nuclear-sharing program and the few we built with Iran are not enough. We still need Russia.

Korvinus
31 Jan 2024  #560

It's not enough for the Russians to make their own lives miserable. They won't be satisfied until they make their neighbours miserable as well.

Miloslaw
31 Jan 2024  #561

It's not Russians that do this but their leaders.

Velund
31 Jan 2024  #562

How about returning stolen property to its rightful owner?

... including assets purchased in 1721 and 1795, that was stolen in beginning of XX century... ;)

Mr Grunwald
31 Jan 2024  #563

If I didn't know you actually mean it, I would think your a mean joker

Velund
1 Feb 2024  #564

15 years ago armed conflict between Russia and Ukraine would be 100% crazy joke. But anglos managed to make it happen.

So, now it is time to undo "done deals" and do "impossible" things.

jon357
1 Feb 2024  #565

But anglos managed to make it happen.

Putler, who illegally invaded Ukraine is not 'Anglo'.

Interesting to see that the orcs are getting bogged down, losing thousands of kilos of orc meat trying and failing to advance.

mafketis
1 Feb 2024  #566

Putler, who illegally invaded Ukraine is not 'Anglo'.

Amazing the lengths russians will go to in order to avoid saying 'we messed up....'

Velund
1 Feb 2024  #567

to avoid saying 'we messed up....'

Gathered once on the Maidan:...
... ambassadors of the United States, France, Spain, Germany, Denmark; U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland; U.S. Senators Chris Murphy and John McCain; German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle; European Union High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton; former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili; Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans; MEP Jacek Protasiewicz; Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevičius; Lithuanian Seimas Speaker Loreta Graujinenė; former Polish Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski; Czech Senator Jaromir Štětina - and... accused Russia of interfering in Ukraine's internal affairs!

mafketis
1 Feb 2024  #568

ccused Russia of interfering in Ukraine's internal affairs!

And that's good! Because russia was trying to drag Ukraine down into the same dark pit of corruption and falsehood and violence that russia is found in while Ukrainians wanted to be free of their troublesome former overlords.

Victoria Nuland

Is she a dynamo or what? Armed with nothing more than cookies she overthrew putain's proxy regime!!! What a powerful figure, no wonder russians fear her so.

Velund
1 Feb 2024  #569

And that's good!

Ok, ok... Now we know that Lavrov with cookies somewhere in Texas is OK.

Novichok
1 Feb 2024  #570

Gathered once on the Maidan:...

Bravo, Velund...That was so funny that I reposted it in Jokes.

Because russia was trying to drag Ukraine down into the same dark pit of corruption

You should be a stand-up comedian...Ukraine being told how to be corrupt...hahahahahahahahaha...


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