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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10



Ironside
11 May 2024  #3181

Russia is legal

OK, by the same token, the USA is legal and that means their bombing of Serbia was also legal.
You don't have a legal mind don't you Crow?

Crow
11 May 2024  #3182

OK, by the same stocked the USA is legal and that means their bombing Serbia always was also legal.

It was not legal. Serbia/Serbs was attacked by pro-nazis during Civil War in former Yugoslavia and then Serbia defended itself against pro-nazis on Kosovo, while the USA acted on the side of pro-nazis.

Plus, the USA and NATO acted on their own, without approval of UN. So, it was illegal attack, on the double.

Ironside
11 May 2024  #3183

It was not legal. Serbia/Serbs was attacked by pro-nazis

That is what you say. Some say that Serbia was nazis. What you claim here is not legal is just wishful thinking and legal in your mind is anything that supports your views,

That kindergarten,

ConstantineK
11 May 2024  #3184

They started WW2 together with their Nazi German allies

Hey, you idiot. WW2 was started by German in close cooperation with Poland both attacking Czechoslovakia.

Velund
11 May 2024  #3185

WW2 was started by German in close cooperation with Poland

After the political fiddling of Poland, which, through its well-established channels, blocked the creation of the anti-Hitler coalition with USSR , Britain and France. In the end, Stalin got fed up with the constant visits of clowns from there, speaking for everything good and against everything bad, but having absolutely no authority for practical steps. Then suddenly an airplane with Ribbentrop landed in Moscow, and literally within hours a non-aggression pact appeared. Stalin literally told Poland and its Western masters - if you don't want it, fcuk off as you wish. We will do what we can to ensure our security, if you don't want it with you, it will be without you.

And the annexation of the Teshinsky region by Poland was the last straw, after which the last sympathy for the Polish political top dissolved. Instead of allowing Germany to attack the USSR and Poland to eat the leftovers from the dinner of a large predator (just like with Teshin), Poland itself was shared as an appetizer with this very large predator.

Novichok
11 May 2024  #3186

Hey, you idiot.

This part was totally brilliant. I skipped the rest of your post...

I have only one death wish...I would like to witness the execution of the scum that raped and murdered a child.

Other than that, I wish everyone to die naturally except Western volunteers in Ukraine. When I read about Russia killing those morons, I feel so much better...

if you don't want it with you, it will be without you.

Stalin was a patriot and a genius. I am free to say this since the USSR took the brunt of the warfighting with 20 German divisions against it and thus saving American lives,

I don't care about the rest.

Velund
11 May 2024  #3187

This year's Eurovision music contest "outdid any coven or ritual sacrilege". This is what Maria Zakharova wrote in her Telegram channel. She added that "the funeral of Western Europe is going on in a proper manner".

Alien
11 May 2024  #3188

Maria Zakharova

Who's that?

cms neuf
11 May 2024  #3189

She can turn off the TV - it's a free choice what you watch

Unless you live in North Nigeria of course - a place where viewing options are restricted to what Putler will allow.

Actually this Eurovision is quite jolly - great to see true Slav nations like Ukraine and Croatia doing well.

Next excuse for a booze up is the Euro 24 football tournament - also thankfully not going to be ruined by the North Nigerian, in fact they won't be playing anyone except Belarus for a long long time

Bratwurst Boy
11 May 2024  #3190

Next excuse for a booze up is the Euro 24 football tournament

....maybe Germany will get a few points there too! :)

Novichok
11 May 2024  #3191

She added that "the funeral of Western Europe is going on in a proper manner".

Not fast enough...

Novichok
12 May 2024  #3192



Why NATO's Largest Mobilization TERRIFIES Russia
A stupid propaganda video with equally stupid title...

The only way the word "terrifies" would be justified is if NATO planned to attack Russia. Then Russia might be terrified. The thing is that neither NATO nor Russia is planning any of that.

Luckily for humanity, there is no such thing as NATO. It's the US and a bunch of me-too American military welfare bums that will do nothing until the US tells them. Since the US needs Russia more than Russia needs the US, Russia is safe. Right now, the US is looking for that exit ramp because Americans have had it and Biden is less popular than Syphylis.

Bobko
12 May 2024  #3193

@PAK

Kharkov movements are interesting, but it's too early to get excited.

Everybody I read (and this time it even includes the absolutely retarded Institute for the Study of War) - claim that the purpose of this operation is not to capture Kharkov, but to stretch the AFU further.

The approx. 50K strong "Army Group North", while packing a serious amount of firepower, is likely insufficient to take such a big city like Kharkov.

However, it is enough to scare the Ukrainians into urgently rotating their already scarce reserves into that direction.

This means, hopefully, that those same reserves will then not be available to keep plugging holes in the Donetsk are.

Ukraine is in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" position now. They can try to play it cool, and not "overreact" to the Russian army's advances in Kharkov Oblast. This, of course, runs the risk that the Kharkov situation will develop from merely a "worrying" one, into one that is potentially catastrophic.

Alternatively, they can take the situation there seriously, but by the same stroke run the risk of the situation in Donetsk becoming catastrophic.

The cure to these problems, to some extent, lay in mobilizing sufficient numbers of men to adequately man the entire front AND be able to form reserves. Unfortunately for them, they are led by a donkey clown, that sat on his ass recording daily videos instead of trying to mend the situation.

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Also, in case people are not aware, I just want to explain why the ISW is a sh*t source for understanding anything about the war in Ukraine. That reason is... that the old Anglo dudes that run the place, have let two young girls from Ukraine run the show on both Twitter and even in their actual reports.

The more senior of the two, is a girl named Natalia Bugayova.

The type of sh*t she writes... makes me wonder if one of the executives at this formerly respected institute is f*cking this girl. Otherwise, why would they flush their reputation down the drain like that?

Before I discovered this, I really could not understand why the ISW kept pumping out overly politicized nonsense in re: to the war, instead of engaging in sober analytics. Then, one day, I read an interview with her in the Ukrainska Pravda, and everything fell into place.

Source: understandingwar.org/press-media/staff-bios/nataliya-bugayova


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johnny reb
12 May 2024  #3194

one of the executives at this formerly respected institute is f*cking this girl.

You're just jealous is all.
You can see in her eyes that she is still a virgin.

Bobko
12 May 2024  #3195

You can see in her eyes that she is still a virgin.

You are one creepy dude.

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I assure you, I'm not jealous of her in any way. In fact, I'm pissed at her for writing from her heart, rather than her brain.

The dumbas*es that hired her... maybe they can be understood. Here we have a girl, from Ukraine, with a Harvard (Kennedy... meh) degree, that can lend us some additional credibility when covering this conflict. Too bad it ended up destroying your credibility, and making your official account on Twitter an absolute joke.

Regarding people f*cking her... I'll just say that a good portion of her Twitter profile is her posting pictures of herself at various conferences standing next to Gen. David Petraeus - who lost his job as Director of the CIA after it was discovered he was f*cking his biographer.

I'm being sexist, aren't I? Maybe you're right and I am jealous of this woman's career :)

But just maybe, open of the reports under her authorship and decide for yourself.

She is not objective. She is not neutral. She is not very bright or original. So then... why does this old guy keep hanging out with her through it all? I don't know.


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jon357
12 May 2024  #3196

just want to explain why the ISW is a sh*t source for understanding anything about the war in Ukraine

It's a very good source.

You just disagree with their point of view.

From the posts, it seems that r*SSian spooks have been trying to find out about them.

Bobko
12 May 2024  #3197

You just disagree with their point of view

Why should they have a point of view at all? Isn't that sort of orthogonal to what their job is?

I'll tell you what the ISW does. Let's use the example of some hypothetical Russian advance.

1) First, they will claim it's no big deal. Likely, employing their favorite phrasing - "not an operationally significant advance".

2) Then, when despite all their "expert" prognostications, the Russians continue to advance... they'll pivot to saying something like: "It is our opinion that Russia lacks both the manpower and equipment to further exploit this opportunity, and we should see their efforts grinding to a halt within the coming days/weeks."

3) Finally, when everybody and their mother already understands that something quite bad is happening - the Ukrainian ladies at the ISW rapidly transition to blaming the Biden Administration, Republicans in Congress, Scholz, etc for allowing the situation to happen.

4) From this point on, they typically abandon any kind of actual war commentary, and begin regurgitating things about Russian "hybrid methods" etc

Tell me Jon, what's the actual point of such "analysis"?

Shouldn't an "expert" be able to make some kind of half-good prognosis from the outset, rather than having to radically redefine the goal posts at each step of the way? Nobody is always right about everything, but when you more often make 180s than call things right - shouldn't people start questioning your work?

Even the Western military analyst community has largely stopped referring to the ISW. I can show screenshots of people like the defense editor at The Economist, or the Ukraine specialists at the RAND Institute making snarky comments about the quality of ISW's work.

It's just sh*t. Whether you are pro-Ukraine, or pro-Russian - just please stop reading what they put out.

A good thing to read on the Ukrainian side is @TatarigamiUA. He's a former Ukrainian officer, and now has his own company called Frontelligence Insight. He gets quoted in the FT, NYTimes and WSJ. Guys like Rob Lee and Michael Kofman consistently cite his work.

He is clear eyed about events in the war, unlike the clowns at ISW that are engaged more in cheerleading work than actual analysis.

PolAmKrakow
12 May 2024  #3198

@Bobko
Excellent take on ISW. They have become less of a news source and more of propaganda. I still read it, but with a grain of salt.

People who dismiss Kharkov and the action there are not vewry smart. Even if the Russians cannot take it, it will pull manpower away from the eastern front and this could be the reason Russia made the move. A breakthrough on any point of the line of contact will be devestating. Z again has not reacted quick enough and mobilized enough. Now he is using prisoners to mobilize. That tells me, they are running out of men. Again, without the manpower, all the new weapons in the world are not going to push Russia out. With no F16s now until June or July, Russia has the opportunity to make huge gains. Bidens worst nightmare could come true with Ukraine losing all the ground it made up a year ago right before the US elections.

cms neuf
12 May 2024  #3199

I know I'm not smart but won't it also use North Nigerian manpower, fuel and ammo ?

Also will let the Ukies strike into North Nigeria with more political support as they can say they are disrupting supply lines (same rationale that Israel uses)

ConstantineK
12 May 2024  #3200

You're just jealous is all.
You can see in her eyes that she is still a virgin.

I also think that they f*ck her, most probably in a chain manner with drugs and in all accessible positions. And i am not jealous at all, as you might know!

ConstantineK
12 May 2024  #3201

why does this old guy keep hanging out with her through it all? I don't know.

He is not hanging out with her at all. He is fingering her in her sloppy and wet ass right at the photo session.

amiga500
12 May 2024  #3202

Good to see Contstatine becoming the no1 pro russia contributer here.

PolAmKrakow
12 May 2024  #3203

@cms neuf
Russia has been mobilizing all spring long. Approximately 300K new troops committed to the military. Thats more than enough to keep moving, and more than Ukraine has in total by about 6 x. Russia is already not only replacing all of its lost equipment, but has now been able to add to stockpiles. There is no shortage in a war economy driven Russia. This is a country that has survived on its own for a hundred years really. Thinking they cant get through this war is a mistake.

This second front is not something to ignore or think wont make a difference. After more than two years, Ukraine has very few men left to fight. But they sure know how to have fun in Krakow.

cms neuf
12 May 2024  #3204

They have not survived on their own for a hundred years

They collapsed in 1917

They only survived WW2 (which they started together with Nazi German allies) with US equipment

They collapsed in 1991

Even last summer they almost collapsed because a few hundred drunk convicts started driving their crappy old tanks to Moscow

Interesting story from India - the North Nigerians have billions of rupees from oils and arms sales stuck there. The Indians won't allow the cash out the country and the thieves starting to panic that this cash too would be frozen.

Their solution was to spend it on Indian weapons - god only knows what kind of junk that is but it will soon be tested against Polish, French and US arms.

ConstantineK
12 May 2024  #3205

Excellent take on ISW.

Have you used it as source of information? It belongs to Kagan family and Vikky Nuland is wife of Robert Kagan. So it has been western propaganda mouth from its start.

jon357
12 May 2024  #3206

Isn't that sort of orthogonal to what their job is?

No; they certainly express opinions and know what they're doing.

They (like most of the free world) have a different opinion to that prevalent in r*SSia.

I know I'm not smart but won't it also use North Nigerian manpower, fuel and ammo ?

They forget that Ukraine plan ahead and gane all possible outcomes.

PolAmKrakow
12 May 2024  #3207

@cms neuf
Saying they almost collapsed last summer is a huge exageration. Survival is exactly what they have done. The 90s they survived by evolving into Russia from the USSR. They survived 1917, they are still on the map throughout history. WW2, yes they survived because of the US. So did Europe. You hate Russia, I do to, but I am not ignoring history, or the current reality of the situation in Ukraine.

ConstantineK
12 May 2024  #3208

WW2, yes they survived because of the US.

Oh sure, we all survived due to the US, these indispensable state and the people.

ConstantineK
12 May 2024  #3209

В Варшаве вдруг загорелся гигантский торговый центр, в котором было 1400 различных магазинов.

Жертв нет, и гигантского ТРЦ тоже уже нет.

По нашим данным, поджог совершил украинец, который выступал против поставок Польшей оружия и техники режиму Зеленского, а также оказание логистической поддержки в деле доставки НАТовского оружия через аэродром в Жешуве.

Польская полиция и спецслужбы еще не нашли этого украинского активиста, он успел скрыться, его ФИО польские правоохранители скрывают.

jon357
12 May 2024  #3210

@ConstantineK
Probably r*SSia is behind this. It's straight out of the orc playbook.


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