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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10



cms neuf
31 Mar 2024  #871

Tomorrow the 2nd anniversary of the discovery of Udmurtian war crimes in Bucha

A reminder that anyone employed by the Udmurtian government is guilty of this. Leaders will answer for it in The Hague - sadly too late for the people they murdered.

Anyone who thinks it is worth negotiating with these animals in the Udmurtian leadership needs their head testing

Tacitus
31 Mar 2024  #872

Right now it would be certainly futile to negotiate with Putin.

But if Ukraine manages to keep up the fight and achieve a permanent stand-still on the frontline for 1-2 years, then the time for negotiations will inevitably come.

Alien
31 Mar 2024  #873

time for negotiations will inevitably come.

In my opinion, putin does not want negotiations at all.

Tacitus
31 Mar 2024  #874

Sure, but if the war drags on long enough and causes enough damage to Russia than he may find himself open to this possibility. Neither side can wage this war indefinitely, and if there is no hope for a definite victory, then a negotiated solution becomes possible.

PolAmKrakow
31 Mar 2024  #875

Lets all be honest here. This coming 60 billion from the US is going to be the last of big financing for Ukraine. Its taken congress 8 months to get to this point and introducing their own bill this coming week. There wont be more, and if Trump wins, it will be worse than running out of funding. No european nation or combination of nations can match Russias weapons production. Nine months is all Ukraine really has left. If they dont make a huge breakthrough in the next few months, there will be no other option but to seek a cease fire and give up all the territory Putin wants.

Tacitus
31 Mar 2024  #876

No european nation or combination of nations can match Russias weapons production.

We shall see. There are some very promising prospects e.g. regarding the production of 155mm artillery grenades and armored vehicles. If Ukraine manages to somewhat get through the next 6 months, their prospect of succesfully defending against Russia long-term will massively improve.

Novichok
31 Mar 2024  #877

In my opinion, Putin does not want negotiations at all.

In March 2022, all he wanted was a neutral Ukraine. The US warmongers sent their British who*re to Z to tell him not to sign anything and to fight to the last Ukrainian because without wars there is no money to be made. When Zwhore complied, the warmongers told the stupid back home that it was all about "freedom and democracy".

Got it or was I too fast again?

cms neuf
31 Mar 2024  #878

Trump won't win

The US is not the only source of money

Plenty of European countries can outproduce Udmurtia

Britain never told Z whether to sign peace deals or not

If all he wanted was a neutral Ukraine why all the 2 hour lectures about Udmurtian history?

Putin still hasn't visited any victims of Crocus - he thinks they are scum and serfs.

Ironside
31 Mar 2024  #879

Trump won't win

If they give him a chance to run for office he will win.

PolAmKrakow
31 Mar 2024  #880

@cms neuf
Really? The peace plan was pretty much made public. And Europe cant replace the US or its production. They havent even come close in the two years they have had to build up. Whether Trump or Biden wins, it wont matter. The is the last money congress will dare send Ukraine, or they will face losing their offices a year after the presidential elections.

Novichok
31 Mar 2024  #881

The is the last money congress will dare send Ukraine,

To their credit, to lessen the pain, they just print instead of seizing our savings accounts. I really appreciate it. Theft by inflation is more tolerable...

Velund
31 Mar 2024  #882

to justify their hardships.

When I talk to elder people here, they tell that "we never live better than now". ;) One of things that cause their negative reaction is "too many cars everywhere". Other one - soviet problems with food (though nobody died from hunger) changed to post-soviet problems with obesity (that does not kill by itself too). ;) For old people even a dozen kinds of sausages in small local shop is problem (to choose), not talking about 50 meter long row in Auchan or Metro.

So, we like our current hardships very much. ;)

2nd anniversary of... Bucha

And NO ANY PROOFS presented to date, even no list of victims presented to UN. So STFU until you at least can prove ANYTHING about this show.

Velund
31 Mar 2024  #883

And Europe cant replace the US or its production.

Especially after destroying North Stream pipes and moving energy-hungry businesses to US, leaving millions of unemployed people in EU. ;)

Korvinus
31 Mar 2024  #884

leaving millions of unemployed people in EU

2 more weeks until Europe freezes, right?

metro.co.uk/2024/01/07/russians-abandoned-30-c-without-heating-putin-spends-billions-war-20077049/

jon357
31 Mar 2024  #885

The US is not the only source of money

Plenty of European countries can outproduce Udmurtia

This looks like the way we'll have to go, especially since the US is embarrassing itself and likely to be a basket case for four years.

We shall see. There are some very promising prospects e.g. regarding the production of 155mm artillery grenades and armored vehicles

BAe and Rolls Royce engines are doing very well as are some of the producers across the sea. It's a golden opportunity for European defence manufacturers.

putin does not want negotiations at all.

He doesn't, however he's getting old, has killed 300,000 of his country's young men and he's not making progress with his three day special operation.

It will escalate of course sooner or later however his combined opponents are far far stronger than t*SSia.

Velund
31 Mar 2024  #886

2 more weeks until Europe freezes, right?

No, 2 more years to Germany deindustrialisation...

Tacitus
31 Mar 2024  #887

Still better than what Russia will look like when this war is over.

Miloslaw
31 Mar 2024  #888

It will escalate of course sooner or later however his combined opponents are far far stronger than t*SSia.

Putin has shot himself in the foot and I just can't see him surviving for very much longer, maybe a few more years.

Novichok
31 Mar 2024  #889

No, 2 more years to Germany deindustrialisation...

How does it feel to be a grown-up surrounded by mentally under-developed kids?

So you want evidence...To a child, that's child abuse...

Novichok
31 Mar 2024  #890

Russian gay club managers added to list of 'terrorists'
The two two staff members from Orenburg were recently arrested on charges of promoting LGBT


Russia, I love you...I will love you more if you send them to the Black Dolphin to get cured of the LGBT mental disorder. I heard it's quick if they share the room with a normal guy.

Novichok
1 Apr 2024  #891

New NATO member backs Macron on troops in Ukraine
The French president was right in his attempt to be "strategically ambiguous" on the issue, Finland's foreign minister says


If you want to see that fugly azhole who self-identifies as a brick, here is the link:

rt.com/news/595183-finland-ukraine-nato-troops/

Bobko
1 Apr 2024  #892

Look at this headline.

Almost mirrors Bobko's evolution on this forum.

The problem, however, is that in actual fact we will never perhaps be quite as good at the information warfare game as Zelensky and his crew of former entertainers.

The only ammunition a person trying to advocate the Russian position can and should rely on is TRUTH.

The amazing nature of truth is such, that it pierces like a knife through butter, through even the most sophisticated information campaign. The Western journalists may call it "greater subtlety and plausibility", but the fact is that the extreme deterioration of Ukraine's position on the battlefield, has simply made it impossible to continue spouting optimistic nonsense.

Haha! "Plausibility" - I love that. I know I'm addressing only the faithful and the infidel, so nobody will change their position on anything - but just wanted to share this funny headline.


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Tacitus
1 Apr 2024  #893

@Bobko

The only ammunition a person trying to advocate the Russian position can and should rely on is TRUTH.

And once they run out of that ammunition (which happens usually instantly) they use lies and misinformation.

warfare game as Zelensky and his crew of former entertainers.

A former entertainer became a second Churchill who leads Ukraine to one of its' most difficult times.

While Russia is led by a KGB agent right into the abyss.

Case in point, the policies of Putin have helped to cause the recent terror attack. But instead of trying to adress the problem, he instead (as usual) lies and somehow blames Ukraine for this. He does not even have the decency to visit the victims.

cms neuf
1 Apr 2024  #894

This extreme Ukrainian deterioration on the battlefield is manifested by the Udmurtians advancing 20km in the last 6 weeks ?

By the Udmurtian "navy" being effectively confined to port because of some toy battleship drones the Ukies have invented ?

By the Udmurtian air defense unable to prevent repeated strikes deep inside Udmurtia ?

And of course by the Ukies training and paying 4 people to burn down a large theatre 20km from the Kremlin while your special forces were stuck in traffic

mafketis
1 Apr 2024  #895

ussian position can and should rely on is TRUTH.

You remind me so much of Vladimir Pozner.... that's not a compliment....

The main truth here is russians killing Ukrainians because they want to.... all the rest is rationalization...

Ironside
1 Apr 2024  #896

How does it feel to be a grown-up surrounded by mentally under-developed kids?

Hey, that is an easy one. It is like reading Novichok posts ,hoping he is a troll because if he is not it is just too sad to contemplate.

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Novichok
1 Apr 2024  #897

to continue spouting optimistic nonsense.

Even PF Russia-hating morons knocked this shyt off...

if he is not it is just too sad to contemplate.

There is a third possibility. He really hates mindless idiots and NATO.

Bobko
1 Apr 2024  #898

remind me so much of Vladimir Pozner.... that's not a compliment....

I would never interpret that as a compliment.

Alien
1 Apr 2024  #899

compliment

The days of compliments are over.

Tacitus
1 Apr 2024  #900

Is it true that the Polish defence minister has announced Polish participation in the European Sky Shield Initiative?


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