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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10



Novichok
17 Apr 2024  #1591

in part due to potential Russian retaliation against critical infrastructure".

This drives me nuts...Why is it necessary for Russia to hit U infrastructure in retaliation? How about because it's there...
It's like a replay of Vietnam, the Russian edition, with that stupid escalation that allows the enemy to pace the events and control the battlefield.

johnny reb
17 Apr 2024  #1592

.Why is it necessary for Russia to hit U infrastructure in retaliation?

It's called, "Rules of Engagement."

Bobko
17 Apr 2024  #1593

Why is it necessary for Russia to hit U infrastructure in retaliation? How about because it's there...

I think the reason we were hitting substations and transformers during the Winter of '22-'23 is because:

1) We didn't want to lose points with the Ukrainian population by plunging them into cold and darkness (this season's attacks only came after the winter had ended, and the problems they'll have this coming winter will be squarely blamed on their own government instead of us).

2) We hoped to capture those places intact, like we did with the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (the largest in Europe), and the Uglegorsk Thermal Power Plant (also one of the largest in Europe).

3) The main focus was on disabling Ukraine's rolling stock (most Ukrainian railways are electrified). By disrupting rail traffic, the hope was that it would create difficulties in supplying the front in the East.

In the end, the trouble begins with the hope of winning Ukrainian "hearts and minds". As it turned out, it didn't matter what Ukrainians thought about us, so long as their criminal government remained in place.

At the same time, there have been a great many people on the Russian side that have been advocating from Day 1 that we should:

1) Strike the Presidential Administration, Ministry of Defense, Main Defense Intelligence directorate, and the headquarters of the Security Service of Ukraine.

2) Disable all power plants, with the exception of nuclear ones (for fear of causing radioactive fallout).

3) Destroy bridges across the Dnieper.

Novichok
17 Apr 2024  #1594

One of my favorite videos on YouTube is how a mongus kills a cobra by biting its head or close to it. Kiev should be like an Ikea parking lot at midnight by now.

At the same time, there have been a great many people on the Russian side

They were right.

Warsaw was bombed to death. Today, you would never know it...It was actually good for the city. Just like that fire was for Chicago...That cow did the right thing.

Bobko
17 Apr 2024  #1595

They were right.

Yes, they seemingly read Ukraine better than Putin, who had sent soldiers into Ukraine with parade uniforms.

Now that the "easy" way has completely discredited itself, it's back to the true and tested "hard" way.

Novichok
17 Apr 2024  #1596

As they say...If you want to inflict pain, do it quickly.
I want an honorary Russian citizenship.

cms neuf
17 Apr 2024  #1597

We didn't want to lose points with the Ukrainian population

I think that ship might have sailed

mafketis
17 Apr 2024  #1598

it didn't matter what Ukrainians thought about us

they've never liked you....

Individual Ukrainians might get along with individual russians but the cultures and values are too dissimilar. Ukrainian values are far more in line with Europe and the 21st century.

Warsaw was bombed to death. Today, you would never know it.

If the city where your family lived was flattened by a bomb while you were out of town.... it wouldn't matter because it would be built back.

Would you be willing to greet those who bombed your family with open arms and thank them?

Velund
17 Apr 2024  #1599

Ukrainian values are far more in line with Europe and the 21st century.

Yes, yes... Neo-nazi values is pretty well aligned to agenda of current EU "elites"...

Fortunately, not all inhabitants of Ukraine share it.

Miloslaw
17 Apr 2024  #1600

Neo-nazi values is pretty well aligned to agenda of current EU "elites"...

I have to agree with you on that one!And they are pretty close to Communist values too.There is very little difference between Nazis and Communists....

Velund
17 Apr 2024  #1601

very little difference between Nazis and Communists....

As Comrade Stalin said - "you go left, you will come right".....

Novichok
17 Apr 2024  #1602

they've never liked you....

I just talked to Vlad and he said:
Меня не волнует, нравлюсь ли я им. Их должно волновать, нравятся ли они мне.

cms neuf
18 Apr 2024  #1603

I think Stalin said that at one of his many dinners with Ribbentrop - your Nazi allies in WW2

mafketis
18 Apr 2024  #1604

I just talked to Vlad

OMMG!!!! You don't even know what he's called!!!! Hilarious.....

Vlad is Romanian (or an English abbreviation of Vladimir)

What's his nickname in russian? Why should I take your opinions seriously if you're ignorant?

Velund
18 Apr 2024  #1605

I think

You even can think? Amazing....

No, it was one of big articles in press, about fighting with extremism in communistic party, IIRC.

Velund
18 Apr 2024  #1606

State Duma deputies have presented new facts in the gas pipeline bombing case in an appeal to the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation. These data prove cooperation between the US and Ukrainian special services, where Kiev is used as a "proxy" for attacks on Russia.

For the operation under a foreign flag, the United States created a Ukrainian group of saboteurs with a curator in the person of the head of the Ukrainian GUR Budanov. The leader of the group became an intelligence officer Chervinsky.

Oleg Varava, a senior inspector of the engineering platoon of the rapid response company of the National Police of Kiev, a female diver with the call sign "Marisha" and Ruslan Rudenko, ex-deputy mayor of Bila Tserkva with the call sign "Kapellan" participated in the sabotage.

The appeal of the deputies also proves the financing of the bombings by the company Burisma, whose management included Hunter Biden. For the terrorist attack in "Crocus" the perpetrators received money through the same company. As in the case of gas pipelines, this was done in order to conceal the real ordering party.

The Prosecutor General's Office has sent requests to the United States, Germany, France and Cyprus to investigate the terrorist attacks on the Nord Streams.

cms neuf
18 Apr 2024  #1607

These are the same Burisma foreign saboteurs who locked the fire doors of Crocus and then blocked all the motorways there and disabled all the helicopters so that nobody could reach these burning civilians ?

jon357
18 Apr 2024  #1608

Hunter Biden

The more right-wingers scrape the bottom of the barrel about him, the cooler he looks.

Nord Streams

Hopefully they will both soon be permanently dismantled and the pipelines and terminals melted down for scrap.

mafketis
18 Apr 2024  #1609

the cooler he looks.

He';s not.... he's a typical trust fund fvvk up who's turned eveything he's ever touched into sh1t and who, despite being given every advantage blames everyone but himself for his continual cascade of failures...

I thought you had a lot of that type in the UK....

jon357
18 Apr 2024  #1610

typical trust fund fvvk up who's turned eveything he's ever touched into sh1t

Of course.

But he gets the coke and the hoes.

a lot of that type in the UK.

There are certainly some.

Bratwurst Boy
18 Apr 2024  #1611

That would be so so stupid!

Putin spies arrested in Bavaria:

Bomb attacks on US bases planned

bild.de/politik/inland/generalbundesanwalt-putin-spione-in-bayern-verhaftet-6620be4b63bc044c61f104e0

Federal Prosecutor General Jens Rommel had two suspected Russian spies arrested in Bayreuth on Wednesday morning. The two men apparently acted on behalf of Kremlin dictator Vladimir Putin . They are said to have spied on US bases and planned attacks on military transport routes. " Spiegel " reported first....

The war mood is at an all time low in the US....Biden thinks about pulling out of the support for Ukraine.....hey, lets attack the US itself, yeah!

PolAmKrakow
18 Apr 2024  #1612

@mafketis
If Hunter Biden was any other American person he would be rotting in a prison cell for many years by now. A POS of a Presidential level. Daddy covers up for him, until Daddy gets caught red handed getting money from family members involved in Hunters games. Enbarassing and no better than Trump and his charges.

amiga500
18 Apr 2024  #1613

Why do these moscow metro stations opened in the last 12 months look so much better than the low cost plastic designs in Warsaw, when 'the sanctions are working' and russia is in war economy mode? Did Trashkowski and the POrks just steal all the money again? These stations look better than the paris ones too.



jon357
18 Apr 2024  #1614

look so much better than

Because they like to show off and have a 'taste' for baubles rather than taking care of the people's money.

Meanwhile, their soldiers eat 40 year old ration packs.

Velund
18 Apr 2024  #1615

taking care of the people's money.

ROTFL... Maybe we should look how Biden family care of people's money to learn? ;)

Meanwhile, their soldiers eat 40 year old ration packs.

You've been grossly fcuked over. It's hard to find ration packs less than 100 years old.

Lenka
18 Apr 2024  #1616

look so much better than the low cost plastic designs in Warsaw

In most places a lot of people would say that the gov is spending too much money if they did that pointing out there are more important issues

Not to mention the cost of upkeep and repairs

Velund
18 Apr 2024  #1617

Why do these moscow metro stations opened in the last 12 months look so much better

Because we can afford this... And the overly stingy pay double in the end.

I read from the Khokhоls about how the Moskals fight in empty supermarkets for the last carcasses of hedgehogs, which already smell a bit of rot, and I can't hold back a healthy laugh anymore. ;)

Alien
18 Apr 2024  #1618

moscow metro stations

There is only one reason, sanctions that do not work. It is impossible to impose sanctions on russia, China, Iran and North Korea at the same time. And that's exactly the situation we have.

PolAmKrakow
18 Apr 2024  #1619

@Alien
I dont believe it is possible to impose sanctions that will work on a country that does not need anything from the west. Russia can produce anything it needs. Maybe not as well as the west, but they dont need the west. Anything else they want you're right, they can get from their friends in low places. So, what do you do to a country that cannot be stopped by sanctions? You cant bleed them of cash. You cant cut them off of resources. All you can do is negotiate and hope they would prefer a peaceful working agreement. The US could do the same.

cms neuf
18 Apr 2024  #1620

Peaceful working agreement?

This is North Nigeria we are talking about


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