Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 11

@cms neuf
What you dont understand about the US, is the US wants out of NATO. The US is tired of fighting everyones wars and its tire of fighting its own wars. The people no longer have an appetitite for this. The US will be out of NATO sooner than later, whether its Trump or someone else. Bobby Kennedy would end NATO as well, and though he may not get elected this year, he is a top candidate for 2028.

@Korvinus
Ukraine is not going to defeat Russia, not now, or in the future. There is no pushing Russia backward, and the western press has even reported as much. Stop wishful thinking and look at the facts.

Not if he wants his country's business community and investors to have access to European markets.


And they're getting better at it. That drone strike disabling r*SSia's radar operations in the Ukraine and in the south of r*SSia was impressive, has cost r*SSia many millions and they can't relate or replace it.


Just which wars have they fought on behalf of NATO member states? Most of NATO's interventions (the Balkans, Libya, etc) were led and conducted by other NATO states.

I googled that.....and in the most recent polls (February/May) there is a drop but the majority still views NATO positively!

Americans Remain Committed to NATO, Critical of UN

Two-thirds want to see U.S. increase or maintain commitment to NATO

news.gallup.com/poll/611261/americans-remain-committed-nato-critical.aspx

Americans continue to hold a largely favorable view of NATO, with a majority expressing a positive opinion of the alliance. However, ratings have dipped slightly over the past year, driven largely by declining favorability among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents.

About two-thirds of U.S. adults see a benefit to NATO membership, but fewer say this today than in 2022. This change has also largely occurred among Republicans.

The share of Americans who believe the alliance's influence is getting stronger dropped 11 percentage points over the past two years, with similar declines among both Democrats and Republicans.

Those who have more knowledge of NATO are more inclined to see the organization favorably.

pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/08/americans-opinions-of-nato/

Most Americans in new survey say US should defend NATO allies

thehill.com/policy/international/4485715-most-americans-say-us-should-defend-nato-allies-survey/

Despite Donald Trump's remarks, Americans - including Republicans - are still generally committed to NATO and European defence

yougov.co.uk/international/articles/48737-american-and-western-european-attitudes-to-nato-in-february-2024

@Bratwurst Boy


No wonder, since being a member is objectively beneficial for the USA. As is the support for Ukraine. Leaving out the political and diplomatic side of it, the war has become one big advertisement for Western weapons, many of which are produced by the USA. There are countles videos of older Western weapons taking out their supposedly cutting-edge Russian counterparts. From a Bradley defeating a T-90, a Patriot System intercepting supposedly unstoppable Russian missiles to ATACAMs destroying a S-400 (which was advertised as being specifically designed to stop those). Honestly whenever an American seller competes with a competitor from Russia, he can from now on just show them a video and win the sale (unless the buyers do not care about quality and rather accept Russian bribes). Particulary the Indians do not seem very impressed by the performance of their largest weapon supplier.

That some Americans still believe that they are somehow losing money on Ukraine, when the producers of HIMARS, Patriots and F-35 have now backlogs well into the 2030s really boggles the mind.

...whereas I can understand doubting USians, who are shouldering the main burden after all, what gets really crazy are Europeans nagging on all things NATO....tell me about being "self destructive"!

I pay too much heed to what our resident village idiots and trolls are saying.
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...because NATO does not offer one damn benefit to the US!!!

WE DON"T NEED THIS CRAP!!!!

Oops ... stupid me...I forgot about Albania coming to the rescue if the US is attacked by Panama...I am so sorry for this slip...

/like so..
See @BB it looks like a prime example of a moron or a troll. Why even bother to read it?

Russian forces are concentrating in the Grayvoron-Borisovka-Proletarsky area in the western part of the Belgorod region.
Something is cooking on the back burner.

Name one benefit US taxpayers get from the US being in NATO. Today. Now.

A reminder: US voters are morons. 80,000,000 of them voted for a senile fossil who doesn't know where he is 90% of the time.

40% of Americans said they would abolish the First Amendment. 90% of Americans agree that trans women are women. 80% of Democrats are for open borders and med benefits for migrant scum.

So quoting what Americans "think" about stuff that does not require writing a check every month is like asking a faggot how he likes banging pussy.

Well, I marked in my notebook - "Mandatory history courses with analysing of original historical documents for all inhabitants of APRL (Autonomiczna Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa)".

...a blind guy if he likes faggot rainbow more than the real one...

I have more...

More, all involving faggots.

It's an unhealthy obsession

Obsession - pushing LGBT crap into schools, toy stores, churches, girls' private areas, sports, book stores, and libraries, the White House, the US Army, ...
That's obsession. Now say thank, I didn't know that and go play in the sandbox...

I found these quite interesting reads:

msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-russia-is-building-up-its-arsenal-of-low-cost-explosive-drones/vi-BB1mZJTA?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=be3951f90d394c1a8d2df7616112f8a6&ei=28

Modern high-tech warfare changed things dramatically. A $10k drone taking out a $10M tank obsoleted tanks forever.

Great to see those orc tanks with their turrets spinning like crazy.

An 'unexpected fault'

Lovely news.

The Indians seem to have taken notice as well.

India looks beyond Russia for defense imports

According to Swasti Rao of the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defense Studies and Analyses, India has been looking on with surprise at the performance of some of the Russian kit.

How come the Patriots took down the Kinzhal missiles that were touted as invincible? How come Russian ships are becoming such easy targets from a country that doesn't have a navy? Its spy planes such as A-50s, and fighter jets such as Sukhois have been downed so effectively,?

politico.eu/article/india-defense-imports-russia-exports-trade-weapons/

msn.com/en-us/news/world/spain-to-give-ukraine-1-billion-euros-worth-of-military-aid/ar-BB1n8pRd


Europe doing it's part.

Arkona awaits liberation. Genocide on Slavs at Arkona committed by the Vatican and Germanics would be avenged.

not gonna happen, you crazy nazi!

nazis took Arkona. By the order of father of nazism. Payday is near. Don`t you hear cannons?

Do you really think it can escape?

You think Serbians forgot?

What do you think the US part of the total should be in percent and why?

This is exactly why the US should leave these morons to their own fate and get the fvck out of NATO...

Quoting:

Estonia's president pledges to bring Russia 'to its knees'
Alar Karis urges the West to keep up pressure on ordinary Russian citizens, to force political "change" in Moscow

Go ahead, you stupid POS. You know where Russia is so go get them...

This is how the US can get dragged into a life-ending war with Russia...because some schmuck gets his hard-on playing another Napoleon...

I can't stand azholes, especially the Euro variety...

Where is Bobko or Velund when I need them...

@Bratwurst Boy
Good points made. Unfortunately the wrong questions were asked. Go back and ask every person if they think the US should be fighting wars in Europe and you will see an overwhelming majority answer no. Viewing NATO positively is a vague question. Asking someing like "Do you support the US sending troops to Ukraine (or any other EU country) to fight against Russia?" and the tone will be a lot different.

NATO is useless for the US. No one is going to attack the US again without being crushed in return. The idea of an invading force on US shores is really just funny.

@Novichok
Estonia doing anything to Russia is comical.

Why is this tiny $hithole country in NATO or has any say so about anything?

That's very eloquent.

Great news that Poland is restricting the movements of orc diplomats. They seem to be involved more in sabotage operations than actual diplomacy.

theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/ukraine-war-briefing-poland-to-restrict-russian-diplomats-movements

Al Qaeda attacked the US, in broad daylight and they are still going

That was only 20 years ago - why do you think it will never happen again ?