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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 11



mafketis
28 May 2024  #691

What you dont understand about the US, is the US wants out of NATO.

Is the US fine with having no influence in Europe? Or is it more like Hungary, wanting the benefits but not the obligations of NATO?

Crow
28 May 2024  #692

Al Qaeda attacked the US, in broad daylight and they are still going

What are you talking about man? Are you from Mars?

Al Qaeda is deeply involved in business with the USA. Why would Al Qaeda attack the US, its own sponsor?

The USA transported Al Qaeda and other Islamic league fighters into the Bosnia to take part in Civil War in former Yugoslavia and to fight Serbs, as well as to commits atrocities on Serbian man, woman and children.

Let me show you things that ``international`` court in Hague refused to take in consideration during trials to Bosnian Muslims that were accused for crimes on Serbs. Videos are absolutely genuine and veritable. But, somebody wanted to hide what happened in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Plus, some more interesting videos >

Mujaheedines were by USA army planes transported to Bosnia and then by the vehicles of the UN distributed to the front. If you think that official Poland ever refrained itself from these NATO operations think again. Official Poland is loyal part of NATO. By it, official Poland took part in genocide on Serbians, in Poland also know as Racowie. Nothing is sacred to official Poland except profit of small circle of politicians. And why would they care for the Serbs when they don`t care for the Poles. In Bosnia, via NATO, Poland was in alliance with the Al Qaeda.

Anyway, spot >

UN Complicity In Islamic Jihad Against Serbs



SKY NEWS - al-Qaida Terrorists in Bosnia

> youtu.be/kVl9KF0uKhE

BBC News - Bosnia: Cradle of modern jihadism?



FRANCE 24 - EXCLUSIVE - Bosnia: how did Saudi Arabia gain influence in the country?



US congressman about Bisera Turkovic involvement in mujahideen arrival in Bosnia during the war



cms neuf
28 May 2024  #693

Ok brate - I wish I never mentioned Al Qaeda

Crow
28 May 2024  #694

See?

Never forget that behind all scheming lives of people are at stake. Real people. With their children, desires, dreams, thoughts. No matter who are those people. It is said that every human life is one book. And I agree to it.

jon357
28 May 2024  #695

@Crow
Less of the crap about Spewgoslavia.

lives of people are at stake. Real people. With their children

Yes, Ukrainian children abducted from their families and taken to r*SSia. People defending their homeland against r*SSian war crimes. The hopes and dreams of a nation who will fight to the death in order to remain free.

Crow
28 May 2024  #696

What about children of the Third Reich? We can now start blame Soviet Union for atrocities on them. No matter that we all know how it started. By Hitler`s sick dreams of extermination of Slavs and by Drang Nach Osten.

Ukrainian children

We will come to that. NATO and EU will pay for that.

Some new nazis penetrated Ukraine thanks to EU and NATO, turning Ukraine into anti-Russia, tormenting local Russians and working against Russia`s security. We all know it. So Russia responded.

Before that, EU and NATO sponsored nazism in Yugoslavian republic of Croatia. So nazism there blossomed and blossom ever bigger. In Bosnia, on Kosovo, EU and NATO sponsored mind blowing concept of nazi-islam that also blossomed and still blossom.

And when children in Brussels and allover the western Europe start to cry and scream, don`t blame Russia. Go complain to the US president or pope. They started.

Or, when Serbian army enters Arkona. Don`t blame Serbia.

jon357
28 May 2024  #697

Some new nazis penetrated Ukraine thanks to EU and NATO

They didn't.

You need a psychiatrist.

jon357
28 May 2024  #698

tormenting local Russians

A pathetic non-excuse and a total lie.

In terms of land area, r*SSia is the biggest fūcking country in the fūcking world.

Isn't that fūcking enough for those tawdry cūnts. Why do they fūcking need to invade somebody else's fūcking country.

Isn't their own enough for them?

Alien
28 May 2024  #699

Isn't their own enough for them

The same question can be asked of locusts that devour everything in their path and attack new regions.

Crow
28 May 2024  #700

@jon357

You know so little. When I say Ukraine is just the tip of the iceberg, I know what I say. Your knowledge is on the level of the little cat. Russians waited to move because they moved for bigger problem then Ukraine. To deal with problem in its entirety so they don`t need to move again for the next 500 years at least.

Isn't their own enough for them?

That`s exactly that. They protect theirs. It is your problem that can`t comprehend enormity of Slavic lands and you also can`t comprehend inter-Slavic connection in sense of Slavic civilization. See, when Poles in the middle age came in aid to Serbians against Turks they didn`t just come over altruistic necesity to die for Christianity. No, they came to aid Serbia because they had feeling that Serbia equally belong to them as belong to Serbs. We are Slavs, you know. We share blood and cultural ancestry. We share ancestors.

If just Russia want and if western Europe give excuse to Russia, as historically giving, Russia at this moment can set and publicly announce its war aims to be liberation of Arkona and Rujan, as well as complete Eastern Germany. It would be even legitimate thru documentation because Slavs and northern Serbs of Arkona/and wide region had regular state with its internationally defined borders and recognized statehood at that time, then was invaded by papal request.

So I fu*k all of you who underestimated us Slavs. We shall do exactly that. We liberate that we want and we make hostile strangers perish or think trice before make another attempt on us.

Why do they fūcking need to invade somebody else's fūcking country.

What define a country to you?

You think Croatia is a country because Pope decided to transform Catholic Serbs into Croats that don`t feel Slavic but Germanic (because deeply Germanized) and then use Croats to convert Orthodox Serbs into Catholics and the turn them into Croats, too? Same and similar approach Popes tries in Crna Gora. In Macedonia. In Bosnia and Herzegovina. Turks tried the same. Turned islamized Serbs into Bosniaks. Turks also shall pay.

So, you think it would be allowed to papacy to fu*k us? To do whatever it want in Slavic world? No, it won`t be allowed. Papal schemes would be annulled and then, if Vatican continue to be evil, we annul papacy. We annul every peace of sh*t that threatens us.

jon357
28 May 2024  #701

That is just a rant from a mentally ill person.

Croatia is a country

It is.

Catholic

Pope

Orthodox

Papal

Vatican

Religious fixations are a characteristic of schizophrenia.

cms neuf
28 May 2024  #702

Crow was a much nicer guy before his long absence unfortunately.

Alien
28 May 2024  #703

was a much nicer guy

Now he has become more irritable, and this nervousness has affected all russian trolls.

johnny reb
28 May 2024  #704

@joun

That is just a rant from a mentally ill person.

Religious fixations are a characteristic of schizophrenia.

Do you ever have anything nice to say to members besides your provoking diminishing remarks here every day all day long ?
Its no wonder why people can't stand you.

jon357
28 May 2024  #705

There's nothing nice to say.

Now butt out, we're discussing r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

johnny reb
28 May 2024  #706

we're discussing r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

No, your post above was diminishing and shaming Crow and nothing more, jon boy123
Grow up and stay on topic
Attack the post and not the poster.
As the owner of this forum, you shouldn't have to be reminded of this every day.

jon357
28 May 2024  #707

That was the whole point of the post.

Attack the post and not the poster.

This from you!

Now post something about r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, or run along.

Bratwurst Boy
28 May 2024  #708

I did wonder about Crow's interest in Arkona actually so I googled that....

"....Arkona, West Slavic citadel-temple of the god Svantovit, dating from the 9th-10th century ad and destroyed in 1168/69 by Christian Danes when they stormed the island of Rügen in the southwestern Baltic...."

britannica.com/topic/Arkona

Crowie? Why no hate for the Danes???? Why always we Germans, hallo????

PolAmKrakow
28 May 2024  #709

@mafketis
Less than 30% of US citizens have a passport, and 80% of those that do only use them to visit Canada and/or Mexico. If you think the average US citizen cares about influence in Europe, you dont know many people in the US. An overwhelming majority of people never leave the US, and half of the people never leave their home state. Now, if you think thats strange, how many Poles do you know who have never left Poland? Not so strange when you look at it that way.

Europe, unless going back to Russias arms for gas and other items will always have a relationship with the US. Without the US, where are they going to get weapons to defend Europe? South Korea? Not enough there to defend the EU, and the tech is light years behind the US.

Why is it wrong for the US people to be tired of this? Why is it their responsibility? Russia is no threat to the US.

Tacitus
28 May 2024  #710

Worth remembering that Belgrade belonged to Bulgaria at the same time. Pretty sure Serbs would not be happy to redraw borders to match their state from the 12th century....

johnny reb
28 May 2024  #711

That was the whole point of the post.

What, to shame and diminish another member that you are so infamous for doing ?

Now post something about r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, or run along.

Sorry Master, had to keep you on the straight and narrow with a minor tune up first.

Bratwurst Boy
28 May 2024  #712

Russia is no threat to the US.

What if Putin wants Alaska back?

...only hypothetically speaking of course....but still...WHAT IF?

After a victorious Ukraine-Campaign he might get ideas....

johnny reb
28 May 2024  #713

He does want it back.
Wish in one hand and hope in the other.
He will capture Germany first before that happens.

Bratwurst Boy
28 May 2024  #714

I dunno.....Alaska is practically without pesky humans....I think it would be easier to re-claim than some overpopulated, stuffy region with lotsa difficult neighbours.

jon357
28 May 2024  #715

where are they going to get weapons to defend Europe? South Korea?

Europe. Three of the world's six biggest defence/aerospace manufacturing countries are in Europe. Four if you count r*SSia.

Why is it wrong for the US people to be tired of this? Why

Are you saying they don't want jobs and profits from all the armaments orders they've had?

and the tech is light years behind the US.

It isn't...

Sorry Master

Call me Lord.

johnny reb
28 May 2024  #716

Call me Lord.

Sorry Satan, you go to hell where you belong.
I only have one Lord and He is the King of kings and the Lord of lords.
The fact of the matter is that Russia is turning out artillery shells 3:1 compared to all the NATO countries put together.
Some people here even think Europe could win a war between just Europe and Russia.
True patriots I must say.

jon357
28 May 2024  #717

I only have one Lord and He is the King of kings and the Lord of

Yes, that's me.

We're talking about Ukraine; they've destroyed yet another orc radar and signals facility, one costing billions and crucial to orc military capacity.

And they did it with a few home made drones.

Novichok
28 May 2024  #718

What if Putin wants Alaska back?

The result would be the same if Indians wanted Manhattan.

We're talking about Ukraine; they've destroyed yet another orc radar and signals facility, one costing billions and crucial to orc military capacity.

These are the moments when I am excessively proud to be an American. The US Army, when not cuffed by the DC lawyers and other morons, has this talent to win wars quickly. Then the morons take over and fvck things up badly. See Iraq.

Going nice and slow is a disaster for both sides. See Vietnam and Ukraine.

PolAmKrakow
28 May 2024  #719

@Bratwurst Boy
Putin can try. I wouldnt want to be any Russian trying to take Alaska. The citizens of Alaska have more weapons and ammo than a good piece of the Russian army. Hard to take back something that was legally sold too. Alaska has close to a dozen military and coast guard bases as well.

Without the US, European car manufacturing would be close to collapse. Without Europe, the US MIC could easily convert back to domestic production of long range weapons, and the space industry that has been ignored for too long. And then, all those billions in aid could be spent in the US. Some Europeans are clearly delusional to think the US needs Europe, when its the other way around. Think South Korea is going to do business with Europe for arms production without the ok of the US who still protects their country? Fvcking hilarious to read some of this stuff.

jon357
28 May 2024  #720

Think South Korea

Why would arms manufacturing countries who produce far more and far better than them need to buy from east Asia.

Fvcking hilarious

As hilarious as someone with a history of disreputability dispensing his delusions about Europe, the wealthiest continent in the world.

Even the Pentagon officially acknowledges that they are in a "post-hegemony world".


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