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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 11



Torq
28 May 2024  #781

elites

Is there even any such thing today?

Where are all the PiƂsudskis, Dmowskis and Grabskis when you need them? :(

Crow
28 May 2024  #782

I used the word `elites` only because lacking a better word. Or worse.

On the other side, brate, believe it or not, I sometimes think, those people in the shadow, real players, may be even a good people. Humane. Just, resources ARE scarce more then we think and plus, humanity needs guidance because we are still, just intelligent monkeys.

cms neuf
28 May 2024  #783

The war will finish this year.

North Nigeria's army know they are not able to force a knock out blow and they can only advance a few km at a time. They won't risk their Air Force. It's clear their weapons are inferior even if the tactics are improving.

The new defense minister might be brave enough to tell Putler but probably not. At some point the army will just down tools - it will be like that scene in Dr Zhivago.

The sanctions and the cratering of the oil industry will continue to bite.

I agree the Ukies maybe don't have the numbers to push the invaders back but they won't have to.

It will be a negotiated withdrawal with no territory left in North Nigerian hands

Crow
28 May 2024  #784

Back to daily politics, hah? See, monkey business.

jon357
28 May 2024  #785

it's the Saints who made it

Norwich won the playoffs.

Delia was probably putting coke in their sandwiches.

@Crow
What rubbish.

Crow
28 May 2024  #786

But of course.

Torq
28 May 2024  #787

Just, resources ARE scarce more then we think and plus, humanity needs guidance because we are still, just intelligent monkeys.

Hmm... this actually sounds accurate, I'm afraid.

The war will finish this year (...) At some point the army will just down tools (...) It will be a negotiated withdrawal with no territory left in North Nigerian hands

Thanks, Cms. Saved for future reference.

Torq
28 May 2024  #788

Norwich won the playoffs.

Maybe in some parallel universe. However, in our world...

drabinka

Southampton promoted

... glory to St Mary and Her stadium. :)

jon357
28 May 2024  #789

Yes, Southampton. I was so angry about Norwich too and have been trying to blot it out since Sunday. It's called The Mandela Effect; worth googling.

Twats the lot of them, and it was on a hair's breadth.

St Mary and Her stadium

You do realise that Southampton is a Protestant team and Leeds is a Catholic one. Just sayin'...

Torq
29 May 2024  #790

You do realise that Southampton is a Protestant team

What??? Why would a protestant team call themselves "Saints"? Doesn't make sense...

And why on earth would they name their stadium St Mary's?

I'm like... so disillusioned right now. :(

Leeds is a Catholic one.

Go Leeds! Promotion next season, no doubt.

jon357
29 May 2024  #791

Why would a protestant team call themselves "Saints"? Doesn't make sense.

Why not? The Church of England has plenty of Saints.

They didn't rename the churches during the reformation...

And the team's nickname comes from an address rather than anything religious.

Torq
29 May 2024  #792

The Church of England

Oh, those c*nts. They're neither protestant nor catholic. Something in between rather.

jon357
29 May 2024  #793

Oh, those c*nts.

Millions of generally very nice people with ancient traditions. Spread right around the English speaking world and beyond.

protestant nor catholic

More the latter in terms of belief.

I've always rather liked their ways despite not being a member.

The Anglican parish in Warsaw had 1800 families in 1939 and their presence in Bialystok was larger still.

Torq
29 May 2024  #794

The Anglican parish in Warsaw had 1800 families in 1939 and their presence in Bialystok was larger still.

These days Polish-Catholic Church (Old Catholic) is in full intercommunion with the Anglicans through Union of Utrecht.

OK, I forgive them for using the names. Go Saints.

jon357
29 May 2024  #795

These days

Since the 30s I think however there are certain internal tensions.

Go Saints.

Screw them, southern rubbish.

Bratwurst Boy
29 May 2024  #796

Wow....what images!

Two German Eurofighters escort a US Air Force B-52 bomber
Photo: Luftwaffe

Unique footage from German airspace: On Tuesday, two fighter aircraft from the German Air Force accompanied two strategic long-range bombers from the US Air Force on the way back from Poland to the UK

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In plain language: The powerful bombers are supposed to make it clear to Russia that in the event of an attack, Europe would not stand alone, but would lead NATO Article 5 to a direct military confrontation with the USA and its huge arsenal of weapons.


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Novichok
29 May 2024  #797

Europe would not stand alone, but would lead NATO Article 5 to a direct military confrontation with the USA and its huge arsenal of weapons.

Memo to all Euros:

Can you please discuss Europe and its security without the word "US' in your future posts?

Torq
29 May 2024  #798

Wow....what images!

But all the Novis, PolAms and other Johnny Rebs tell us that the US want out of NATO, there won't be any Article 5, we are all doomed etc. etc.

What gives? :)

Novichok
29 May 2024  #799

the US want out of NATO, there won't be any Article 5, we are all doomed etc. etc.

What gives? :)

You can rename NATO to US-free Parasite Treaty Organization and keep it. France and the UK have nukes so what's the problem...Don't forget to ask DC for the codes.

Bratwurst Boy
29 May 2024  #800

...don't be so bitter, Novi....enjoy that cool picture! :)

(Even as I think it's photoshopped)

What gives? :)

NATO is there to stay!

Of course, we could and need to make it better.....especially Germany needs to take over more of the burden, all true!

mafketis
29 May 2024  #801

Me: How deranged is modern russia?

Someone: Gee, mafketis, I have no idea... just how deranged _is_ modern russia?

Me: They're trying to recruit people by telling them that if they get killed they'll be resurrected on the battlefield....

Someone: Surely you mean 'in heaven', mafketis!

Me: Sadly..... no.....

thedailybeast.com/panicked-russia-is-now-telling-reluctant-soldiers-they-will-be-resurrected

ConstantineK
29 May 2024  #802

So, what's your prediction for the final outcome of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict?

The outcome will be ww3. SVO is just a war-prelude, the same way as Balkans wars were pen tests before ww1 and civil war in Spain was overture of ww2.

jon357
29 May 2024  #803

Putler's doubles are sometimes very obvious to spot...


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Bobko
29 May 2024  #804

ww3. SVO is just a war-prelude

Who's gonna do the fighting in this WW3?

China did not provide us overt support in Ukraine. It stands to reason then, that when they fight America over Taiwan - we'll also stay on the sidelines and just offer them moral support and normal trade.

Europe has emptied itself of weapons, and I have a very hard time imagining them getting millions of people in uniform.

Russia itself needs many years before it will be in shape again to threaten Europe (in conventional terms). Also, to fight a war on WW2 scale, we would have to subordinate the entire economy to the needs of the military - don't see much appetite for that.

The rest of the world wants nothing to do with our problems.

Torq
29 May 2024  #805

The outcome will be ww3.

Thanks, Veli, but I need some time frame here. When will this ww3 start? 2025? 2026?

pawian
29 May 2024  #806

Europe has emptied itself of weapons

Not yet. Dozens of F-16 fighters are waiting for shipment to Ukraine. Ha!!!

we would have to subordinate the entire economy to the needs of the military - don't see much appetite for that.

Imperial Russians certainly possess that appetite but they lack technology due to sanctions. Ha!!! You can produce 200 tanks per year max with your old Soviet-era factory machinery.

Torq
29 May 2024  #807

especially Germany needs to take over more of the burden

Well, you have this rather strong industry and we kinda need artillery ammo. How about a little fewer Audis and VWs and a bit more artillery shells? ;)

pawian
29 May 2024  #808

Thanks, Veli

Veli is Kostia and Kostia is Veli. All the same. )::):):)

ConstantineK
29 May 2024  #809

Also, to fight a war on WW2 scale, we would have to subordinate the entire economy to the needs of the military - don't see much appetite for that.

The gov is rising VAT and income tax. Anyway the US is even in worse shape and corrupted down to the core. Please do not tell me that some russian generals are corrupt as well. Unlike the US's MoD something is changing in MoD of Russia.

pawian
29 May 2024  #810

The outcome will be ww3

Russia will lose it and divide into 15 Russistans at last. Isn`t it a wonderful prospect???


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