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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12



Torq
4 Jul 2024  #721

Accepting millions of Ukrainian refugees was harmful to Poland

No, it wasn't. Ukrainians are white, Slavic Christians, and overwhelming majority of them work hard and are law abiding citizens. Getting a couple of million of them is a huge advantage for Poland, especially with current demographic trends being what they are.

and prolonged the war.

It takes some bloody cheek to accuse us of prolonging the war that we didn't start! And - again I have to remind you about the obvious fact - we were attacked first with the hybrid антропоток invasion.

Novichok
4 Jul 2024  #722

No, it wasn't. Ukrainians are white,

Irrelevant. If one million refugees are beneficial, how about 10 million? 10 times more beneficial? If they are beneficial after Russia invaded U, they were beneficial before. Somehow Polannd didn't invite millions of them. I wonder why. Did you invite any to live with you? They could cook, clean, and give you a massage every day...

Getting a couple of million of them is a huge advantage for Poland,

Bullshit, It's a post-fact rationalization since you are stuck with them. If they were such a treasure, other countries would bid for them. Name one that did.

especially with current demographic trends being what they are.

So what??? Poland would be Poland with 35 million Poles. Turning a monolithic country into a dual-language, dual-culture mess is a crime and should be decided only by a referendum after an open discussion of pluses and minuses.

It takes some bloody cheek to accuse us of prolonging the war that we didn't start!

France didn't start WW2 and did everything possible to shorten its participation in it, and save lives, and Paris.

Ironside
4 Jul 2024  #723

current demographic trends

Such a quick fix is not a long-term solution to the problem, the thing is it becomes the only solution whilst it should be a temporary measure.

Novichok
4 Jul 2024  #724

Such a quick fix is not a long-term solution to the problem,

No, it's not. Iron > Torq.

Torq
4 Jul 2024  #725

Somehow Polannd didn't invite millions of them.

Sure we did. Ever heard of Karta Polaka? We were handing those to basically anyone in the former Soviet Union who wanted them, even to people who spoke only Russian and their only connection to Poland was that their granpa once owned a Polnischer Berghund. :)

Of course, the scale of emigration from Ukraine was different because the circumstances were different, but all in all we are better off with a couple of million of white slavic people more.

Such a quick fix is not a long-term solution to the problem

Of course it's not a long-term solution but, before we figure out how to convince Polish women to bear more babies, every little helps. No country has ever achieved a long-term economic growth and development in the condition of demographic decline. Alas.

Novichok
4 Jul 2024  #726

Sure we did.

Then you are bigger morons than I thought.
development in the condition of demographic decline.

Easy. Hire only men for a limited time or go auto. Today, 3% of Americans feed 97% and still have a surplus. Have you seen those touch panels at McDonald's?

No WOMEN!!!!!

Torq
4 Jul 2024  #727

you are bigger morons than I thought

The fact that you cannot comprehend something doesn't mean that it's stupid.

No WOMEN!!!!!

I'm afraid they are needed for reproductive purposes. I've heard of attempts to impregnate men but so far they have proven to be singularly ineffective.

Ironside
4 Jul 2024  #728

We figure out how to convince Polish women

In every job men should have employment priority, married men should be paid more or pay less lax and the basic solution is here.

Torq
4 Jul 2024  #729

In every job men should have priority, married men should be paid more

Brilliant.

However, such changes are impossible to introduce under democracy where women have the same voting power as men, or as a part of the politically correct EU. So, we will have to think of something else. Alas.

Novichok
4 Jul 2024  #730

I'm afraid they are needed for reproductive purposes.

You don't need to bring them to Poland.

Let them fvck where they are and go for the babies once they are born. Offer 1000 bucks for each and it will still be cheaper. There are women in Poland who would gladly adopt while still warm and unprogrammed.

Torq
4 Jul 2024  #731

Right.

I see we entered the usual stand-up comedy phase that every thread needs to go through every now and then. I shall therefore retire from it for the time being.

Ironside
4 Jul 2024  #732

where women have the same voting power as men,

Nobody going to ask women, what are they going to do about it cry?

Crow
4 Jul 2024  #733

Good evening people. What online sex this thread offering lately?

Ironside
4 Jul 2024  #734

What online sex this thread offering lately?

Sex with a goat your preferred kind, one you taught to Shifars.

Crow
4 Jul 2024  #735

It is nasty one, brate. How did I deserved this sex offer?

Novichok
4 Jul 2024  #736

I see we entered the usual stand-up comedy

Don't you have adoptions in Poland? Quoting:
The three countries with the highest total numbers were the UK, Germany and Poland (with a standardised rate of 33, 31 and 40 adoptions per 100 000 children respectively).

So where is the "usual" comedy here? Or you just ran out of arguments to justify what you can't control.

We do it here every day regarding the flood of foreign garbage we are unwilling to stop lest we be called xenophobes.

Crow
4 Jul 2024  #737

I see we entered the usual stand-up comedy phase that every thread needs to go through every now and then. I shall therefore retire from it for the time being.

Good one, too. What a perfect way to escape.

`I shall therefore retire`

Priceless.

Alien
4 Jul 2024  #738

What a perfect way to escape.

`I shall therefore retire`

Priceless.

The wolf has come, the sheep are running away.

Crow
4 Jul 2024  #739

Whats wrong with the sheep?

Alien
4 Jul 2024  #740

Whats wrong

Nothing, self-preservation instinct.

Crow
4 Jul 2024  #741

How obvious.

Crow
4 Jul 2024  #742

Evening is ugly, after all > crisis in Europe tend to escalate > After the meeting with Serbian army general-stuff, Serbia`s president Vucic just informed public that NATO grouping and massing troops around Serbia and also increasing air reconnaissance missions >



President of Serbia Aleksandar Vucic:

``NATO massing troops in all directions around Serbia. On Kosovo and Metohija (Serbia`s territory historically and by the constitution), 4534 NATO soldiers, in Bosnia-Herzegovina 1500 NATO soldiers with addition of strategic reserve sponsored by the EU in Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary. We hope that these troops won`t be used against Serbia or Serbian people in neighboring countries. Swedish and German warplanes performing provocative spy missions.``

Miloslaw
4 Jul 2024  #743

``NATO massing troops in all directions around Serbia

What did you expect when you continued to support Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine?

You are now "The Enemy", as usual, Serbia picked the wrong side to support.....

Torq
5 Jul 2024  #744

adoptions

We were discussing low birth rate problem in Poland and ways to convince Polish women to have more children. As a solution you suggested purchasing children from abroad for $1000 each, as if a woman who doesn't want to have her own baby (those who cannot for medical reasons are a small minority) would be willing to purchase one abroad. I could only assume that you were either joking or being an idiot. I assumed the former; sorry if I was wrong.

Pan Alexander Dugin

youtube.com/shorts/SLzXt8EhFhg

Ein reich, ein führer, ein победа?

Wow, I thought Serbs were against fascism... I must have been mistaken.

Crow
5 Jul 2024  #745

Propaganda. Dugin`s philosophy suggest internal sovereignism in Russia and Multi-Polar world to outside. Plus, Russian society is multi-cultural, with underlined Russian-Slavic Christian cultural foundations.

If somebody label you as a nazi, it doesn`t mean you are a nazi. And don`t forget that Hitler vulgarized Slavic ie Sarmatian symbolism such is swastika cross. Swastika is symbol of sun and solstice. Serbian cross with fire-steels is also version of Swastika. Only version of Swastika that is not vulgarized by the German nazis.

Insignia of the Serbian army, OCILO (translate as `From fathers`), Cross with 4 fire-steels in defensive position around cross, Very potent and powerful Sarmatian ancient symbol of the cult of fire, sun and solstice. Used also by the Celts that themselves were Sarmatians, Scythian branch.

Crow
5 Jul 2024  #746

What did you expect when you continued to support Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine?

First of all, official Serbia has neutral stance, while people in Serbia strongly support Russia because Russia is right in this. Russia is right in direct sense, from the angle of its particular state interests, and also having in mind global picture of emerging Multi-Polar world and also is right, taking in consideration interests of Slavic ie Sarmatian civilization..

You are now "The Enemy", as usual, Serbia picked the wrong side to support.....

No. Serbia is on the right side. And, by labeling Serbia as the enemy already represent strong blow onto NATO but, attacking Serbia again by NATO will cause very very fast end of NATO and sure destruction of countries that dare to attack Serbia. In the region, Serbia itself would deal with threats but, speaking of bigger powers that could be involved, for example Germany or Turkey, it would result in devastating pressure by Russian public on Russia`s leadership to immediately help Serbia (like in the case of WW1) and we all know that immediate and fast help, considering distances, would mean use of nuclear weapons.

In case of NATO attack on Serbia at this moment of worlds reality, would mean that Hungary, Slovakia, Crna Gora and Czeska immediately go out of NATO, and Poland is about to follow or would face internal destabilization to the level of Civil War.

mafketis
5 Jul 2024  #747

people in Serbia strongly support Russia because

mutual recognition of collective narcissistic wounds? Serbs feel rejected by former countrymen in Jugoslavija (who couldn't wait to get away from them).

Crow
5 Jul 2024  #748

Slavic ie Sarmatian world would be free from foreign domination, control and manipulation. That`s the point.

mafketis
5 Jul 2024  #749

Sarmatian world would be free from foreign domination, control and manipulation

So it would devolve into a thugocratic kleptocracy like russia with a tiny minority robbing the rest blind while telling them they're great?

Cause.... that's russia.... no thank you. Rules based international order for me, please.

Crow
5 Jul 2024  #750

Russia?

No. This will turn to be about Belgrade. When all this is over. Spiritual force has nothing to do with the size of territory of one country. Slavic ie Sarmatian world gravitate to Belgrade not to Russia or Moscow. Moscow itself gravitate to Belgrade. Like Kracow. Warsaw. Kiev. Prague. Bratislava. Minsk. Etc. Russia knows it. Polish magnates knows it. Its known.

Its Belgrade. Belgrade will overcome both Rome and Constantinople. There is the spiritual center of our civilization. It was and it will be. Belgrade will reclaim it.

Because there can be only one on the throne. And that one can be only something our own. Something legitimate. And that is Belgrade.

World of global human civilizations emerging. Belgrade will lead the way for us Slavs ie Sarmatians. It will be Capital.


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