Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12

If you are to decline, make it more believable please.
Polish noblemen (and noblemen in general did not distinguish such matters. When more important things were at stake, can check out nationalities of envoys and generals during Napoleonic era. On all sides of the conflict.)

I would believe that such a sacrefice on your part would not been appreciated by the Polish public, but it would give much needed calm regarding Russia for Poland and Russia. Maybe even Ukraine who knows, perhaps they would become more rational

Napoleonic era was a time of confusion and there was no independent Poland back then. Good old Polish tradition, dating way before 19th century, prohibited Polish noblemen from accepting foreign orders, decorations and honours (not to mention high offices!). Sure, some of them accepted anyway - especially during partitions - but it was morally doubtful and more often than not frowned upon.

We have a distant trace of this even in today's Polish Law of Orders and Decorations which, in the article 5, states that...


... so it takes an official permission of the President of the Republic of Poland to accept even a foreign state decoration, not to mention a high honour/office.

Besides, in a situation where we have an independent Polish state, it would be a rather dreadful act to accept a foreign high office especially of a hostile country where the question of divided loyalties would inevitably appear.


Look, I can become a member of Polish-Russian Friendship Association or even accept the position of the President of Slavic Unity Movement (because that would be an international position - just like a position in the UN or the EU - and not a foreign honour/high office). Sorry to disappoint you, Gruni, but it's a "no", even if only online and virtual. :)

@Torq
Good, I think and feel it has been cleared out now. Sorry for pestering you so. :)

@Mr Grunwald

No problem :)

ROTFL... ;) Oust Putin to immediately elect him again - it is quite polish way to go... ;)

Hey, m0r0nito, is thought that Putin is democratically elected by vast majority of Russian citizens is too big for your microcefal inter-ear ganglion?

He doesn't mean democratically elected in their progressive speech it means a government that we/I like any other is not democratically elected and as such has no legitimacy. That is how The EU liberal democracy rolls it is somewhat like the Soviet democracy.

Yes, it is. Especially when they suffer from an incurable Russia-hating mental disorder.

When 50 million Russians vote for Putin it's only proof that he is a despot, tyrant, and dictator.

There are many kinds of morons. The Polish variety is one of a kind...

**** off you are talking rubbish here, Mr expert. If a Pole wants to hate Russia who are you to scold him? Every Polish has a good reason to hate Russia with passion the fact that only a few do is a testament to our generous and forgiving nature and nowadays should talk about it like you do. clear?

But dobri brate, why would a Kashub, for example, hate Russia? Or Silesians? Or Lusatians? Why would they all hate Russia?

So what? Hitler was democratically elected too but he wasn't a great choice for Germany, was he?

But Putin is good. Hitler wasn`t good. For Hitler Poles were an inferior race. Putin love Poles. Or, at least don`t hate them.


I hope that Slavs of Poland aren`t hostages of Poland`s hate on Russia. Why would even official Poland openly hate Russia? And not hate Vatican? Or France?

Those are double standards, least to say.

Well, out of love, he wants to nuke them.

I didn`t got impression that he wants that. Why would Putin nuke Kashubs? Or Silesians? Or Lemke? Or Lusatians? Or etc?

Tell me.

Let`s put real questions shall we. We have official Poland that threatening Russia and, we have Slavs in Poland that don`t hate Russia but have to suffer? Why is this so?

Did official Poland became maniacal regime?

Not for Russia. He drew them into a nonsensical war, brought heavy sanctions on the country, lost hundreds of thousands of men. And for what? Denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine? Well, it didn't go very well, did it? Ukraine became one of the most militarised countries in the world and the cult of Bandera is even stronger than it was before. So, Putin achieved exactly the opposite result to what he intended. If he was a car mechanic, architect or an engineer he would be fired long time ago, but because he's a politician he can get away with everything? Bullsh*t.

Any Slavic politician who orders an invasion of a Slavic country should be fired on the spot and his name erased from the Book of Sarmatia forever.


Is it Poland who started a hybrid war against Russia by sending an антропоток of migrants through Belarussian border?
Is it Poland who attacked a Russian neighbour?
Is it Poland who regularly threatens Russia with military intervention/nuclear attack?

Get a grip of yourself, dobri brate.

Let us shorten this tirade. Brate, you would welcome monument to Bandera in Poland?

No more than you would welcome one in Serbia.

So? Why then Poland already isn`t in rank with Hungary and Serbia?

Why all the BS?

How official Poland even dare to behave this irresponsible???

Of course we are. With Hungary we are joined by eternal friendship, and with Serbia by common ancient history.

From Russia, however, we are under an unprovoked антропоток attack which started before the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so it has nothing to do with our aid for them. If Russia stops the антропоток invasion of Poland and gives up the slaughter of Slavs in Ukraine, then we will have no major problem with them. Simple.

Brate. Its a basic sex.

You should just dodge that Russian penis and let it penetrate straight into Germany. But instead, Poland decided to take it. And now, receiving German penis from behind.

What else to tell you.

That's not your call and nobody in Russia is asking for your advice.

BTW, were the wars in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan sensical? Me thinks that Russia is entitled to be as nonsensical as it wants or at least as the US is way too often.

Memo to morons and Z: Next time, don't put "NATO" in your constitution if you are (1) close to Russia, and (2) you want to stay under Russia's radar.

If you are a moron, do just that and see what will happen.

Also, despite what your hateful brain thinks about the man, my advice is to listen to what Putin says. And say he does - in perfectly easy-to-understand Russia and simultaneous English translation.

Based on my counter, he said "No fvcking way will Russia allow NATO in Ukraine" 1734 times.

This is truly nicely formulated.

I can detect fake concerns from a mile...Fake concern about Russia is especially disgusting...

It doesn't work that way. Certain sections of антропоток are trained to stay in Poland, to destabilise us, and Germany sends us ever growing number of антропоток back through our border, without proper reaction from our government (I am slowly beginning to lose patience with Tusk).


Sure. Nobody in Germany asked us for advice about Hitler either. If a country wants to epically f*ck itself up, it is free to do so I suppose. But don't expect me to be happy about it, especially if in the process it endangers my country.

Your country endangers itself by (1) ignoring Putin's "No fvcking way will Russia allow NATO in Ukraine" repeated 1734 times, (2) bringing NATO ever so close to Russia, and (3) prolonging the war in every possible way it can.

All of that with the belief that Putin is an unpredictable nut with nukes.

This all telling you that error isn`t in Putin but in Duda. Poland is in totally wrong situation. On the harms way.

Poland is only lucky that Putin and Russians in general don`t hate Poland. Plus, any serious harm of Poland would in any case destabilize Serbia.
But some sinister outside forces play exactly on this.

@Novichok

(1) Poland doesn't run NATO. Far from it. If you want to blame somebody blame your adopted country.
(2) see point 1
(3) Russia decided to f*ck us with антропоток (which happened half a year before their invasion of Ukraine),
so we replied with aiding Ukraine in their struggle against the invader.


Ohhh, I'm so scared. *galactic eye roll*


... and we don't hate Russia, as you well know. However, when we are f*cked we f*ck back.

Well, its known in sex that partners don`t need to love each others. They may and may not. They may even hate one another.


Don`t roll eyes. We here speak of children of Kashubs, Lemki, Lusatians, Silesians, etc. So, you can sit on the di*k but let those children live.

Just figuratively speaking.

Hey, it is not Poland that's killing Slavic children, so keep the advice for those who are doing it.

Poland is a sovereign country and can refuse to participate in what is harmful to it. See Hungary.

Accepting millions of Ukrainian refugees was harmful to Poland and prolonged the war.