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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12



pawian
3 Jul 2024  #661

to reconcile Russians and Poles somehow.

My terms of a decent Pole for reconcilation with Russians.
1. Russians give up their imperialism.
2. They oust Putin and elect a democratic gov and Parliament which will immediately suppress any attempts at reviving Russian imperialism. .
3. Russia ends the war and withdraws from occupied territories of Ukraine.
4. Russia pays reparations to Ukraine.
5. Russians send their war criminals to the Hague Tribunal.

If they don`t acquiesce, there won`t be any reconcilation and the sanctions can last for decades, I don`t care. Ha!!!

Tusk

Stay on topic, please. Ha!!!

mafketis
3 Jul 2024  #662

*handshake*

Shake hands with this.... disgusting. Collectively russians have learned _nothing_ from the last century and still long to inflict misery on those around them. You might know some nice individuals but the socio-political system is rotten to the core and incapable of change.

x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1808468074841927763

Novichok
3 Jul 2024  #663

Does Putin think he has big enough balls to attack a NATO country while biden is in office ?

Eastern Europe has been free since 1990. Russia didn't threaten anybody as they were joining NATO until Ukraine included joining NATO in its constitution as one of the objectives.

If Mexico started talking about joining Russia in a military alliance, the US army would be in Mexico City next Monday. The US invaded Iraq for a lot less...

Crow
3 Jul 2024  #664

However, the times changed and the power of Slavia now lies in Poland (for Europe) and Russia (for Asia).

At this moment, yes. Just with correction. Russia is Eurasian power.

I see the task of Serbs, as guardians of ancient roots, to act as a middle man and figure out a way to reconcile Russians and Poles somehow.

Indeed. Serbians, with their spiritual concept, and most probably language, preserved closest ties to the original ancestral culture. So, yes Serbians are spiritual and binding force of our civilization in all her diversity. Therefore, capable to offer balance. At this moment, Serbians have even biggest diplomatic capacity. Bigger then Poland and Russia. Biggest in the world most certainly.

So, just, what if Serbians in some near time manage to turn the situation? What if we manage to reunite Serbian lands on Balkan and South-Eastern and Central Europe? What if Serbians spiritually and morally defeat both, Pope of Vatican and Patriarch of Constantinople? What if we restore and overcome Serbian Empire?

What then? With all other potentials Serbians have, as we agreed. What then? Then, Belgrade becoming Capital of United Slavic ie Sarmatian Civilization. That`s what.

pawian
3 Jul 2024  #665

the US army would be in Mexico City next Monday

No, it wouldn`t.

Torq
3 Jul 2024  #666

My terms of a decent Pole for reconcilation with Russians.

I agree with all the points 1-5.

Shake hands with this.... disgusting.

Jaysus, Maf, you're such a drama queen. We shook hands on not being too harsh towards Serbia and you react as if I supported Putin's invasion of Ukraine or something. Besides, you have to learn to distinguish between current politics of a criminal government and interpersonal relations between ordinary people. It all depends on a given circumstance, for example: my sister and her husband went on holidays to Turkey and a Russian tourist that they encountered tried to explain to them that "Russia will teach Poland a lesson" or something along those lines. My brother-in-law, being a man of actions rather than of words, headbutted the guy and that was the end of this particular intercultural exchange. My encounters with Russians, on the other hand, were much more pleasant and involved consumption of alcohol rather than physical altercations. So, it all depends on individual situation - no point drinking vodka with everyone and no point headbutting everyone.

Russia is Eurasian power.

At the moment, to some extent still, yes. However, future arrangements will leave the Central and Eastern areas of European theatre under the Polish control, with our Russian brothers being given free hand to carry the torch of Slavia in the Asian theatre, as God always intended it to be.

most probably language

One of the coolest languages ever - like a mix of Polish and Russian but with a lot of jazz added to it. One day, when I have more time, I will definitely learn Serbian.

Belgrade becoming Capital of United Slavic ie Sarmatian Civilization.

Why not - it's a lovely old city. :)

mafketis
3 Jul 2024  #667

Try to make agreements with russia....

x.com/VladaKnowlton/status/1808508765886685319/photo/3

Bobko
3 Jul 2024  #668

@Torq

I nominate you for future Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia.

You do an amazing job!

pawian
3 Jul 2024  #669

I agree with all the points 1-5.

Hmm......

Torq You do an amazing job!

Hmm........

One of you two must be blind. :):):)

Crow
3 Jul 2024  #670

Central and Eastern areas of European theatre under the Polish control

Brate, what you yourself just said is that the Polish and Serbian realms overlap. You know what this means? It means we will combine. Yes, I know this already. I see this process coming. Conflict is excluded because Poland`s internal elements tend to have its separate ties with Serbia, if Poland as a whole isn`t capable of it.

In informative era non would be able to hide the fact that Sarmatian name represent Serbian name.

You want me to tell you softly? I see Sarmatia from Baltic to Balkan (as it is on oldest maps- Sarmatia Europea) and then process extend on Russia (Sarmatia Asiatica). Only Sarmatia will remain. That, if we are frank and wants to be in accordance with scientific facts and desire of people.

Don`t say your brat Crow didn`t announce you this.

Bobko
3 Jul 2024  #671

One of you two must be blind. :):):)

A Polish foreign minister of Russia would be perfect :)

Miloslaw
3 Jul 2024  #672

Brate, what you yourself just said is that the Polish and Serbian realms overlap.

Except that they don't.

I see Sarmatia from Baltic to Balkan and then process extent to Russia.

Dream on dreamer, you really need to get out more often and speak to real Slavs and not irrelevant Serbs.

Torq
3 Jul 2024  #673

I nominate you for future Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia.

Thank you very much for your trust, brate, but even though I vote for a peasant party (PSL) I am a nobleman, and a Polish nobleman cannot accept foreign honours.

It means we will combine.

As we always did, Crow, ever since Polish winged hussars flew on Serbian wings and even before that. :)

pawian
3 Jul 2024  #674

A Polish foreign minister of Russia would be perfect :)

No, thank you. Poles and Polesses in the Russian service were often traitors. Do you want such a role for Torq????

Miloslaw
3 Jul 2024  #675

I am a nobleman, and a Polish nobleman cannot accept foreign honours.

As we always did, Crow, ever since Polish winged hussars flew on Serbian wings and even before that

You really are a strange one Torq.

As for Polish noblemen, most of them were not much more than peasants.

Crow
3 Jul 2024  #676

As we always did, Crow, ever since Polish winged hussars flew on Serbian wings and even before that. :)

Torq, I really wouldn`t mind that we name it Great Poland. Whatever. I just feel, masses of people would hold to tradition and will be Sarmatia ie Serbia. But, who knows. I will gladly pay the price with name just that we manage to combine. If need be, let Sarmatian name go in history and legends. Just let our children secure their future. If anything can be secured among the stars.

Torq
3 Jul 2024  #677

As for Polish noblemen, most of them were not much more than peasants.

:)

Are you trying to teach me about Polish nobility, Brit? "Don't teach you grandmother how to suck eggs", is that how they say it in your country?

Torq, I really wouldn`t mind that we name it Great Poland (...) Just let our children secure their future.

Predostojany brate, no wiser words have ever been spoken on this board. So let it be, for the greater good of Sarmatia. *handshake*

Crow
3 Jul 2024  #678

Win win situation, telling you, plemeniti brate.

Bobko
3 Jul 2024  #679

As for Polish noblemen, most of them were not much more than peasants.

Actually, a mistake to say so.

Polish families have easily traceable histories, unlike some people from the Holy Roman Empire or from that island that was conquered by Normans.

For some of you, nobility could be granted by a simple act of parliament! Hahaha!

Crow
3 Jul 2024  #680

@Bobko

Not angry anymore, dobri brate? You also combine with us?

Bobko
3 Jul 2024  #681

Not angry anymore

All you had to say, was - "I do not support this decision of the Vucic government".... and I would be happy.

You did not say this.

Why are you behaving like a trader at the market?

Crow
3 Jul 2024  #682

I will tell more. I fu*k Vucic if he did that.

Bobko
3 Jul 2024  #683

I fu*k Vucic if he did that.

and once again I embrace you as my dearest brother, blood of my blood, flesh of my flesh!

Crow
3 Jul 2024  #684

Vucic knows what is bottom line. No sanctions to Russia. Neutral stance of official Serbia. No recognition of Kosovo. So, no betrayal. He make mistake, he is down.

Torq
3 Jul 2024  #685

once again I embrace you as my dearest brother, blood of my blood, flesh of my flesh!

:)

God smiles when Slavs reconcile. Anglos - stock up on diapers! ha ha

Good night, guys. I love you.

Crow
3 Jul 2024  #686

Yes, I will sleep better tonight, safer in embrace of my brothers.

Miloslaw
3 Jul 2024  #687

LOL!!! yes, a crushing Russian bearhug!!! Idiot!

johnny reb
3 Jul 2024  #688

Idiot!

You don't get along with anyone here.
Why can't you be nice ?

Novichok
4 Jul 2024  #689

Qoting:

Trump talks big. What he apparently doesn't realize is that there are very powerful forces in NATO and especially the US who are having an orgasm over a long war in Ukraine with Russia. As misguided as those forces are it'll be interesting to see the battle between them and Trump.

Crow
4 Jul 2024  #690

Predostojany brate, no wiser words have ever been spoken on this board.

I will tell you more.

Polish intellectual elite and wide public must not make a mistake. This maneuverable space, this small or, large, window of opportunity, Poland now have didn`t come from the USA, western Europe or Rome and Vatican. No, it coming solely from Poland`s position within Slavic world. Think of this, brate. Its a perfect recreation of situation from WW1, when Serbians reacted and moved and then Russians moved.

What would Poland do? What is the price, because all comes with the price (sure, we all have to pay price for what we do or we fail to do, but now we speak of Poland).

One price that needs to be paid by the Poland is the abandonment of the papacy as an institution. No matter how look on things, I see this. How fast? That I don`t know.

Its a small price, if you ask me. Actually, even that price is the gift from the Slavic world to Poland.


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