Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12

I'm sure they do. Could you please bomb them less? Is that it? lol!

@Ironside


No country benefits more from the continued resistance of Ukraine than Poland. Well, maybe the Baltics, but nevertheless. Supporting Ukraine is the best investment Poland can make at this point. Every day erodes the Russian military capabilities further, at small expense for any individual NATO country.

Don`t hide now behind children. Its nazi EU that set children on harms way.

How so? Did the EU force the ukrainian mamas to give their babies into a childrens clinic???

Take a step back, Crowie and rethink what you post. Just imagine this would be serbian babies killed....

That was a ten, Crow.

Hiding behind kids is a twofer...(1) It might work. (2) If it doesn't and some kids get killed propaganda value is enormous.

It can and often enough is decisive....wars have been lost because of to many dead babies, you know that!

EU is sinister.

Polish kids were killed during the Warsaw Uprising when Germans decided to use them as human shields.

After that, realizing that the trick didn't work as intended, the Germans gave it up...

Sometimes, killing a few to save many is the only response. It's also proper and moral...Everybody knows it but pretends to be shocked...

Crow, you are way too nice. Just like Bobko and Velund...

Just like the US, the EU is quick to defend Ukraine from the Russian invasion, but not itself from migrants - an invasion that is 100 times worse than by a regular army...

A fitting comparison....the Germans were the invaders, killed kids and babies during their occupation, to no avail....they still lost. They lost not only the physical war, but also the moral respect and recognition as a civilized society by the world

There is is a lesson in there somewhere, for those who want to learn!

It is but it all depends on the context. If the EU and Germany continue to sabotage economically Poland. We won't be able to support Ukriniaie and build up our armed forces to the need.
Also, with NATO so far the danger of open Russian aggression on Poland is less than 15%.
Also, it would be best if Ukraine won but Poland doesn't have the resources to make it happen.
The US still is only doing the minimum of what they can do easily and still has the hope of some accommodation with Russia.
The same goes for Germany even to a greater degree and your effort to help Ukraine was at best half-heather and there are more promises than real help delivered. We already talked about it.
In such circumstances, if Ukerinie were to lose that war it would be beneficial for Poland to switch sides before Germany or even the US would come to some kind of agreement with Russia that would marginalize Poland and be at Poland's expense.
Here I'm only asking what concessions the Ukrainian president gave in exchange for that big gift. Nothing? Pat on the shoulder? Phew!

The civilized world has already forgiven Germany's sins. It's time to give the world the middle finger, forgive yourself, and stop acting out of guilt.
Step 1: Germany first and everybody GFY.

I can do that and still call a baby killer so when I see him....

Who told you that they do? I think you have a distorted view on that matter. Stop talking about issues you have no clue about, it's annoying. Also, you don't vote so you don't have a say. Simple.
Germans haven't had a guild for a long time now and when it comes to East Germany they never had they think being under Soviet domination made them absolved.
What you see here is adherence to the liberal mainstream current prevalent in the world.

Without NATO, it would be zero percent as Russia had no reason to feel threatened by Poland. Now, after Poland let the snake in, it does.

Russia sees NATO as an existential threat and nothing any warmongers in DC say will change it.

NATO in Poland makes this threat even more real. Therefore, Poland is now a threat to Russia and Russia knows it.

In the event of a NATO-Russia war, Poland goes to hell first. Beyond stupid...

.....nah....it was even better: We in the East were the "good" Germans, the anti-fascists...all the baddies, the real Nazis, were in the West! :)

Germans did.

Why else would they allow all those Muslim hordes in? Because Germany was not Muslim enough or to show how sorry they were?

Also, why would Germany fvck up their energy supply deals? What rational reason would they have to do it? Because they are better off if they get it from more expensive and less reliable sources?

All emotional crap. Zero logic.

It is all that Poland wants. Being a third-rate vassal to the US and German colony or being dominated by Russia and becoming a Russian satellite. Neither is a good outcome.
Still, better opportunities and chances for Poland are with the West. Alteratvliy to build its nukes create regional alliances, and strike it on its own.
Also, there is still China. It could be preferable to Russia.
Yapping about NATO is pointless and you should address it in the DC. Ah, but you don't vote. You only moan.
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No, to show the world how great liberal democracy they are, that they are the best in the world. That is their German shtick, when anti-semites were world-favored they were the best anti-semites there were. Now something else is fad and they are the faddest of them all.

...so is the devastation and the 600,000 dead Ukrainians. My yapping didn't kill anyone. Supporting this war did. See Poland and other idiots.

Tell me how and I will do it today.

I would if the DC warmongers asked me. They never do.
They just happily spend us into bankruptcy and sniff out where to have another war for "freedom and democracy".

Something stinks...

After over 2 years, Russia is still trying to expel the UA from what it considers its own territory. Unfvckingbelievable...

Is this another case of slow and nice like in Vietnam?

No. Its slow but certain grinding machine.

You blame a victim, not an aggressor it is stupid.
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It doesn't help either.
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quote=Novichok]Supporting this war did. See Poland and other idiots.[/quote]
That is a very perversive take. First of all, Russia attacked Poland first with their migrant move using Belorus.
Secondly, they attacked Ukrainians openly.
Every creature and every country has the right to defend itself. Such defense comes at a cost.
If you're against the war the great warmonger of our times is the US.
Give up all your nukes and dissolve the military and if China attacks you to avoid people killed at war just surrender. Otherwise, stop talking nonsense when people die and you don't care about them as you wrote on this site many times.
You say nothing against wars but you seem to be particularly focused on the Russian-Ukrainian conflict - why is that?
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Hi BB. Possibly, still, at the end of the day, it was some kind of absolution by the Soviets.

Actually russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Everybody thinks of Crimea but they also invaded Donbas that year (if a person doesn't know who led the initial invasion and where and what happened to said person then they are not very well informed and I dismiss anything they think they have to say).

Of course it was....it was abit mindbending crazy when you think about that....but a real de-nazification wasn't possible that way!

How you could possibly see my post as blaming the victim? Really strange..

Did you know that the US was at war 92% of its existence?

We don't export anything except wars and things that go boom before they kill. So you may want to rethink the meaning of "aggressor".

As a reminder, NATO went to Russia. Russia didn't go to NATO. Russia actually asked if it could join NATO and was told to FO. The reason was simple: Without Russia as Satan, how to justify 1T in mil budget and NATO?

Fvck...we can't have Russia as a friend...how do we feed the world's most corrupt pile of excrement aka the MICC?

Finally - a chance to discuss something "on topic"!

Poland and Ukraine have signed a bilateral security agreement. This is the 21st such agreement that Ukraine has signed. Earlier, it signed similar agreements with UK, US, and France - among others.

It's touted by Zelensky as an alternative security structure to full NATO membership - which doesn't seem to be on the table, at least for the moment.

What do Poles here think about the signing of this agreement?

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Agreement-shmagreement.

Is Wojsko Polskie going to Ukrainian Front? No? Thank you. Moving on to next piece of irrelevant news.

Well that was quick.

I must say, your analysis practically matches mine :)

@Bobko
Z is an idiot. USA and Germany will not let Ukraine into NATO. And if the US threatens to leave NATO, keeping Ukraine out, may be the only way to keep the US in.

such as the bombing of the children's hospital in Kiev by russian barbarians.

Just the wrong guy... in the wrong place... at the wrong time.

Putting Zelensky and Putin in the same cage was always going to be a joke.