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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12



Tacitus
8 Jul 2024  #811

@Ironside

It is but it all depends on the context

Hardly. Poland is the possible next battlefield of a Russian invasion. Poland has made the preparation for such a scenario its' top priority. Every day of fighting costs Russia money, equipment and soldiers it otherwise could have used against Poland.

Being a third-rate vassal to the US and German colony

Poland has the potential to become the leading country in Europe if it so desires. But for that it needs to avoid the mistakes of the past. Picking unnecessary fights with governments that are ultimately on your side. Being willing to not only receive assistance but also provide it. It can continue to leave the issues of Eastern Europe to Washington, Paria and Berlin like it used to, or try and make a difference.

and your effort to help Ukraine was at best half-heathe

Key word is was. I think we can all agree that Germany has stepped up massively since the early days of the war and is now prepared to support Ukraine long-term.

Total German arms exports to the war-torn country reached a record high of €4.88 billion in the first half of the year.

dw.com/en/german-weapons-exports-on-course-to-hit-new-record/a-69517153

For reference, that is already more than what the UK intents to spend this whole year on military aid on Ukraine.

Novichok
8 Jul 2024  #812

Poland is the possible next battlefield of a Russian invasion.

When you invite warmongers whose objective is to cut up Russia into smaller and weaker pieces you will very likely show up on Russia's enemy list. Duh!

Poland has the potential to become the leading country in Europe if it so desires.

The US has become the leading country in the world and is careening toward the fiscal cliff and bankruptcy.

Are all Euros morons?

Bobko
8 Jul 2024  #813

you will very likely show up on Russia's enemy list. Duh!

How does Rich understand this from Day 1, and everybody else is still pretending they have amnesia?

Novichok
8 Jul 2024  #814

How does Rich understand this from Day 1,

Simple. I don't give a fvck what others here think and say about me. It's extremely liberating.

As I already said...My contempt for a typical Euro bootlicking weasel is hard to describe...

pawian
8 Jul 2024  #815

I don't give a fvck what others here think and say about me

Since recently. Before you were so scared of what I could say that you kept me on ignore for months. Ha!!!

mafketis
8 Jul 2024  #816

everybody else is still pretending they have amnesia?

It's not amnesia... russians are attracted to and impressed by brute violence... and they've learned to love the feel of the whip on their backs.

Poles and Ukrainians (and others who prefer freedom) haven't forgotten how mindlessly violent russians are... they just despise that aspect of them.

russians sent a missle to two separate hospitals in Kyiv... one for kids and one for pregnant women... no one who supports that can call themselves civilized.

now they're scrambling and will invent a narrative in which they didn't do it... like spoiled children who've never learned to take responsibility.

russia is a pathetic loser country full of pathetic losers who enjoy when their government kills Ukrainian children...

pawian
8 Jul 2024  #817

russia is a pathetic loser country full of pathetic losers

When are you moving there to feel at home at last?

Miloslaw
8 Jul 2024  #818

@mafketis

Great post!

When are you moving there to feel at home at last?

Are you insane? Did you really not read the post by mafketis?
Or have you lost it, like Joe Biden?

Novichok
9 Jul 2024  #819

Russians sent a missile to two separate hospitals in Kyiv... one for kids and one for pregnant women..

Strangely, Z must be gloating - just as Roosevelt was after Dec 7, 1941.

You don't know if Russia deliberately hit those hospitals or if those hospitals were not used by the U military.

Also, Russia can redirect the enemy drones. How do you know that U is not doing the same and that they didn't do it in this case - deliberately or by accident?

Russia may be all kinds of things, but it's not stupid to attack hospitals since there is no upside to it.

If you know what benefits Russia derives from bombing U hospitals, please explain.

Velund
9 Jul 2024  #820

such as the bombing of the children's hospital in Kiev by russian barbarians.

Please, tell us where Russians managed to get AIM-120 missiles (identified by video, published by ukrainian channels, and by schrapnel found by locals before they was pulled out from the scene) to do this attack?

It was NASAMS-launched anti-air missile that was failed to hit real Russian missile that reached their intended target nearby - some AFU command and control facility in a separate buildning.

cms neuf
9 Jul 2024  #821

No surprise that we already moved from "was it deliberate ?" to "it was the Ukrainians" in less than 24 hours

The sick North Nigerians can explain it all in the Hague

They are stupid enough to attack hospitals and in fact a large part of the North Nigerian public thinks it is fine

mafketis
9 Jul 2024  #822

Please, tell us

Tell it to your therapist, Ivan. I'm not interested in helping russians play their pr games.

Crow
9 Jul 2024  #823

NATO IS STUPID AS A DICK

Serbia responded to NATO provocations these days by sending its unarmed army cadets to walk thru cities of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Stupid NATO and local Muslim leaders were stunned and non reacted but blame each others how is this even possible. Nobody know how they even came in Bosnia with all that NATO troops on border with Serbia. Telling you. Stupid as a dick.




mafketis
9 Jul 2024  #824

Serbia

Another country full of psychotic narcissists

Crow
9 Jul 2024  #825

and you can sit and hang for a while on the dick of psychotic narcissist

mafketis
9 Jul 2024  #826

you can sit

No way man! I'm not into perverted serb stuff!!!

Velund
9 Jul 2024  #827

I'm not into

Do you think someone will ask your permission, Mr. Propeller?

Novichok
9 Jul 2024  #828

Please, tell us where Russians managed to get AIM-120 missiles (identified by video, published by ukrainian channels,

Thanks. You beat me to it...

Hey, Russia-hating morons...What's the upside to bombing hospitals? Duh!

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jul 2024  #829

.....well....at least they don't seem to be proud of.....that's better than Hamas!

Alien
9 Jul 2024  #830

bombing hospitals?

better than Hamas

What do they have in common?

Novichok
9 Jul 2024  #831

Hamas would make the SS cringe...

cms neuf
9 Jul 2024  #832

There is no upside

It's just spite and rage from a mad dictator who couldn't get his own way in the elections he tried to rig

And anyone who refused the order to bomb two separate hospitals would be imprisoned or even killed

North Nigerian life

Bobko
9 Jul 2024  #833

What's the upside to bombing hospitals?

Not just any hospital, but Ukraine's largest and most famous children's hospital, where many kids dealing with oncological issues are treated.

Why would we ever target a children's cancer hospital?

It seems almost like a joke, if it was not so brutally tragic.

If Russia were trying to lose friends around the world - it couldn't do much better than killing kids battling cancer.

It does seem, that it was a Russian missile that hit the hospital, however. At the beginning it seemed it could be an AIM-120C, but now it's clear it was a Kh-101 (images attached below).

What seems to have happened, is that the missile went off-course. There are videos now of 5 similar type missiles hitting the Artem missile factory nearby (a few hundred meters). This one missile went in the wrong direction, and hit the worst possible thing it could hit.


  • IMG_2377.jpeg

Bobko
9 Jul 2024  #834

What allows us to say for sure that this is a Kh-101, is the presence of the Р95-300 miniaturized turbojet (малогабаритный короткоресурсный двухконтурный турбореактивный двигатель). This item moves out from within the body of the cruise missile after launch, and provides thrust for the duration of flight. No such item exists on an American AIM-120C missile.

Attaching photo below:


  • IMG_2378.jpeg

jon357
9 Jul 2024  #835

russians sent a missle to two separate hospitals in Kyiv... one for kids and one for pregnant women... no one who supports that can call themselves civilized.

And that is certainly a serious war crime.

now they're scrambling and will invent a narrative in which they didn't do it... like spoiled children who've never learned to take responsibility.

That is doubtless true. r*SSia even pretend to dent the chemical weapons attack in Salisbury and also the Bucha war crimes, despite solid evidence making it clear it was r*SSia.

Torq
9 Jul 2024  #836

What seems to have happened, is that the missile went off-course.

This kind of thing is bound to happen - no technology is perfect.

Why target cities at all? What is it - special military operation or World War2? Just get your army into the field, fight the Ukrainian army, and see who wins. If you target cities, you will definitely kill civilians in the process. Sorry for stating the obvious.

jon357
9 Jul 2024  #837

This kind of thing is bound to happen

It's not "bound to happen" at all, any more than t*SSia had to invade a peaceful neighbour in the first place, or shoot down civilian airliners between Amsterdam and KL, or leave Bucha littered with dead civilians with their hands tied behind their backs.

It was the orcs' fault, and they must pay for that and be seen to have paid for that.

mafketis
9 Jul 2024  #838

Why target cities at all?

You don't seem to understand russian culture at all...

First, Joe "My brain is mashed potatoes" Biden said something about having 'stopped' putain....

Second, zhopniks were having the sads at the failed Kharkiv initiative... not about the dead russian soldiers but that there was a lag in the killing of civilians.

x.com/igorlachenkov/status/1810258148856414686

Why don't you believe them when they tell you what they intend?

x.com/Prune602/status/1810360850441711884

cms neuf
9 Jul 2024  #839

They hit two hospitals, so now explain why the other missile hit the maternity building

Actually they answer is obvious - because the North Nigerians don't care about civilian casualties and see any Ukrainians as legitimate targets, even kids with cancer or pregnant women.

Torq
9 Jul 2024  #840

Why don't you believe them when they tell you what they intend?

I'm like this guy Mulder from X-files in reverse - I don't want to believe.


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