Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12

I apologize for doing this, but I will answer you again with a quote. This time from Margaret Thatcher, that b*tch that was Reagan's favorite...

"The European nations are not and can never be like this [America - BOBKO]. They are the product of history and not of philosophy. You can construct a nation on an idea; but you cannot reconstruct a nation on the basis of one."

Russia is a product of reality. America is a product of dreams (rapidly descending into a nightmare).

Is reality so tragic?

Our reality has been more than tragic.

You kind of forgot Japan, Germany, United Kingdom, France... all with stronger economies than Russia. Canada and Italy are close behind Russia, with considerably smaller populations.

And Poland is 21st in this ranks
data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=PL-RU-JP-GB-FR-DE&most_recent_value_desc=true

The rest of your sorry ass rant does not even deserve a response :)

Who did I forget, again?

Can you not list meat and empty space during the next response?

Call me an Orc again, but we Russians - we deal with facts not aspirations.

A society that is at war 92% of the time, lets millions of illegals in, and happilly spends itself into bankruptcy should be locked up in a mental institution.


Divide total debt by the number of citizens and we will talk about who is superior.

The USSR and Russia have always been in the defensive mode - even when they controlled Eastern Europe as a buffer.
Unless, of course, they needed Poland's vast territory, gas, and oil.

Memo to the Red Army: I apologize for the morons that happened to be born where I was.

North Nigeria is not "still finding its way to democracy" - it is running as fast as possible in the opposite direction.

Is it true they are about to ban YouTube? Would be a blow as I enjoy the supermarket videos.

Most of Russians love Poland. So, let us reverse question of this thread to sate their necessity to get love from Poles.

Spot on > This could be real question if оur brat Putin didn`t react in time >

>>>>>>>>>>>> Poland's aid to Russia if Ukraine invades - part 1

russia tortured and killed two Ukainian teenagers and is now refusing to return their bodies....

x.com/lubinetzs/status/1813538702888694118

Those with no moral compass, dignity or decency will dredge up some misdeed of the US that makes that okay....

Those with a moral compass, dignity and decency will ignore them.

Contrary to Nazi Germans, Germans of today are peaceful and businesslike.

Russians keep on being the same murderous, pillaging, raping orcs we've known for the last 500 years. Current war proves that. Zero evolution.
The orcs cringe when being called what they truly are. Go cry on your big daddy Sauron's lap.
[quote=Crow]Most of Russians love Poland[quote]Why are you pro-Russia?

Why would an honest, decent human being support this fuccked up faction?
(Novichok please do not respond, we know you do not fit the criteria)

I am pro-Poland and pro-Russia.

You are all Serbians.

No question and the weak Serbs keep on blindly supporting in the false belief that they are their big brother.


Not possible.You have to chose one or the other.If you choose Russia then please leave this forum and join a Russian one.


You really are a bit insane......Serbians have a tiny population and Poles nor Russians have very much in common with you.

Hmm...

When it comes to a nation and its culture it is neither history nor philosophy that matter the most. In each and every case it is the lifestyle that is the most important factor.Ye shall know them by their fruits, and all that.

The most degrading and most corrupting thing about any society is its lifestyle. When you don't have a moral compass, strong standards, and you go abroad, then you don't fall to the the level of a nations philosophy - you fall to their level of lifestyle.

From the moral point of view, the West with its idolatry of money and sexual perversion is equally repulsive are Russia's kleptocratic corruption and violence.* That's why it is so vital that Poland - the last bastion of true Latin civilization - thrives and becomes stronger. We have barbarians to the East and barbarians to the West. There are remains of the old value-based Western civilisation still in between, in the so-called Intermarium area, and this "in-between" sphere must fall under Poland's influence. Otherwise civilisation dies and we'll be left with the choice between the perverted "West" and the Chinese human hive (with local variations).

* - of course, as in every case, personal preferences play a huge part here; some people (including my humble self) are inclined to believe that Russia will sooner find her way out of corruption and violence than the West from perversion and greed, but variance of opinions here is quite broad.

Not in 1920, 1945, 1956, 1968 or 1979-89, they weren't. And these are only the 20th century examples.

Paradoxically, not even in 1941. Why do you think Hitler's armies advanced east so easily in the first phase of the Barbarossa? Because the Red Army in the western regions of USSR was not prepared for defence but for attack. Hitler's invasion was a pre-emptive strike. Luckily, the Russians won in the end; otherwise slavery and crematorium chimneys would await Poles, as was the German plan.

God's providence is a mysterious thing. Hmm...

Watch this short video and then please post your opinions.

Baltics should speak for themselves. Poland has no intention of sending Wojsko Polskie to Ukraine.

That is not what they have been saying.

1:27 - 1:48 in the video.

Who gave Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia the right to make such statement for Poland?

I suspect that Polish officials gave them the nod.

Also, a number of NATO countries, including Britain, Canada and Estonia, are considering the possibility of supplying weapons not to Ukraine's borders but even closer to the frontline. The concept of "forward logistics" is currently being developed;

Some of them are also in favour of strengthening the protection of western Ukraine with NATO air defence systems. Poland, in particular, is advocating this idea.

Polish officials have repeated on many occasions that Poland has no intention whatsoever of sending our army to Ukraine.


Poland shall not be manipulated into going to war without the rest of NATO. The Baltics would be well advised to shut the f*ck up.

That is true, but politics is politics and I think that the Poles,quite rightly, are upping the ante.Because, they understand the threat better than anyone else.

We are doing no such thing.

We have, however, recently...

pap.pl/aktualnosci/odslonieto-pomnik-rzez-wolynska-nasze-wideo

... unveiled a monument of Ukrainian genocide on Polish civilians.

Those events were part of maintaining a defensive buffer.

The USSR didn't attack Poland, Hungary, or Czechoslovakia because they wanted to spread democracy or to keep the Soviet MICC happy.

They went to Budapest and Praga because keeping the buffer countries under their control was existential to the Soviets. As opposed to the US and Iraq, for example.

BTW, how many died in 1945, 1956, and 1968 in comparison to in KVIA?

I can add it all up if you want me to...

From RT.com:

Germany plans to halve its military aid for Ukraine, cutting more than £3 billion next year as it struggles to fill a black hole in its finances with spending cuts.

No, dear RT. Germany smartly decided not to dump more money into the sinking ship. Only Biden is that stupid and that's why he will be a one-term mistake very soon.

Exactly.
Trump will pull out and tell Europe to fight its own war for once.
Trump will focus on Taiwan, North Korea and our own border.
Europe will shed to find out what it costs to stop Russia's aggression without the United States wallet backing them.
The gravy train will come to an end.
FINALLY !
TRUMP 24'
MAKE AMERICA STRONG AGAIN !

Since it now looks like Trump will win, there are certainly talks between Trump's team and the EU regarding further cooperation after the elections. Perhaps only a little will change.

Well said.

@Alien
Trump supporters, and a mjority of American people will not go for continued funding of the war. Ukraine will be forced to negotiate, and Z will be forced to provide all the documents they have on Hunter Biden. Things will change swifty. Vance will then likely win in 2028 and continue with 8 more years of Trump policy. This election can make a complete change in the US. Finally the freak show movements can be set aside as they should be, and the wars will end.

Serbia love you Pane Trump !



Wherever we are

Some people never learn.... what Trump says on the campaign trail and what he does in office have no real relation to each other.... Trump did more for Ukraine than Clinton, Bush and Obama put together.

At UN, Russia`s Lavrov says India is a Great Power


Calm down. If you try to insult Serbians in front of some Polish peasant at some village he will punch you in the face. Speak against Serbs in Polish cities and people will show you a middle finger or worse. Then you will feel like kurva.