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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12



Paulina
14 Jun 2024  #151

Exactly! That's what I'm talking about.

Americans when seeing RuSSian ships through binoculars:

US

Poles when an actual RuSSian missile drops on Polish territory:

Poland

;D

Torq
14 Jun 2024  #152

RuSSian missile

As the song goes...

Rakiety tu, rakiety tam,
Rakiety ch*** zrobią nam!


... :)

cms neuf
14 Jun 2024  #153

If those drunk North Nigerians want to fire dud missiles into the Caribbean that is fine - it just means they can't weaponize them and fire them at innocent Ukrainian school kids

If they want to waste time, fuel and money on that no problem

The sailors will be disappointed in Havana - they have no access to dollars and the local girls and bartenders won't accept crappy rubels any more. This will probably end in a riot and hopefully a mutiny.

Torq
14 Jun 2024  #154

In general, as we can see on PolAms example, Americans are slightly unnerved. I don't blame them; they had to handle all this nuclear arsenal for many decades - this can definitely put a strain on anybody's nerves. But, what are friends for? Just handle all the nukes over to us, guys, and then you can relax without a worry in the world. We got this.

Ironside
14 Jun 2024  #155

Can you stop talking about balls? It's disgusting, start a new topic m if you must - gay talk so you can have your safe space to talk this kind of talk. It would spare the rest of us a yucky moment. You are all saying I'm bad whereas I only call morons by their real name. geez.

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jon357
14 Jun 2024  #156

sailors

handle

balls

Having fun, boys?

I see another batch of orcs have surrendered to Ukraine.
x.com/wartranslated/status

PolAmKrakow
14 Jun 2024  #157

@Paulina
You confuse my interpretation of how the American people will view this with how you view it. Again, Americans dont GAF what Europeans think. Remember, thats why no new aid went to Ukraine for 8 months.

While a lot of people here want to comment about what the US should or shouldnt do, very few understand Americans. Fewer understand how tired Americans, not politicians, but citizens are of being at war. And ignoring their own country. I surely dont completely understand how Europeans feel, but I know a lot of Poles and none of them are too excited about the prospect of going to war for Ukraine. Bottom line is Ukraine cant get Russia out, and they never will. All the experts say the same thing. This ends at a negotiated peace, or drags on for decades. Russia wont stop, so there is no sense in men getting killed on either side.

Ironside
14 Jun 2024  #158

, Americans don't GAF what Europeans think.

They are too busy being Israeli butt boys.
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Bottom line is Ukraine cant get Russia out, a

That one is obvious If they had been able to kick Russia's ass on their own they wouldn't need the US nor nobody else.

Europeans feel,

Europe west of Poland doesn't feel threatened by Russia at all.
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Poles and none of them are too excited about the prospect of going to war for Ukraine

Because we don't have potential like the US has, it is simple like that. Not even near enough If Poland had 1/3 potential of the US including nukes we wouldn't. be even talking to the US nor tolerate the progressive crap you promote.

Hell, we would ask you kindly to pack your back and leave Europe. Granting your wish in the process. lol!

Ironside
14 Jun 2024  #159

to pack your back

to pack your carpetbags.

PolAmKrakow
14 Jun 2024  #160

@Ironside
I think Poland has a lot of potential and too many Poles dont see it. Poland should have developed its own nukes long ago. My wish is not that the US leave Europe and say fvck it. My wish is that the US take care of its own people and its own problems before trying to fix Ukraine. Someone has yet to point out to me why that is not a good thing for a country to do. And yes, I agree, too much aid to Israel and they should be cut off completely as well. But we know that will never happen because the jews own every major press outlet in the world and it wont fit their narrative.

Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2024  #161

For Ukraine mission:

NATO builds headquarters in Germany

Why not in Poland? They are much nearer....

The headquarters for the planned NATO mission to coordinate arms deliveries and training activities for the Ukrainian armed forces will be located in Germany.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg announced this on Friday after the defense ministers' meeting in Brussels.

Accordingly, the new NATO command will be located in an existing US facility in Wiesbaden and at logistical hubs in the eastern part of the alliance (Poland and Romania) under a three-star general who will report to the Supreme Allied Commander Europe.


bild.de/politik/fuer-ukraine-einsatz-nato-baut-hauptquartier-in-deutschland-auf-666c2db04bd2b57986d311b9

According to the agreement, NATO will monitor the training of the Ukrainian armed forces in training facilities in allied countries from Wiesbaden and support Ukraine by planning and coordinating donations.

"Managing the transfer and repair of equipment will support the long-term development of the Ukrainian armed forces," Stoltenberg added.....


Now that is a clear decision and a sign that this really could become a long-term-conflict.....

mafketis
14 Jun 2024  #162

Meanwhile in moskva.... special rally held where protestors demanded nuclear strikes against the US....

kind of pathetic.....

x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1801353636695437486

Ironside
14 Jun 2024  #163

A special rally held where protestors demanded nuclear strikes against the US

I think it must be KGB even Moscovites are not suicidal to that degree.

mafketis
14 Jun 2024  #164

even Moscovites are not suicidal

Even pro-government rallies are not allowed in modern russia.... totally a government operation meant to strike fear into the viewers of RT and Fox....

johnny reb
14 Jun 2024  #165

Putin has agreed to end the war if his two proposals were met.
The proposed deal would effectively give Moscow control of four Ukrainian regions: Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia.
Is this what it has all been about ?
There is little prospect of Kyiv countenancing such an agreement.
Ukrainian President Zelensky told CNN in April 2022 that Ukraine is not willing to give up territory in the besieged eastern part of the country to end the war.

Putin is getting desperate.

AntV
14 Jun 2024  #166

Is this what it has all been about ?

I've always thought so.

Putin is getting desperate.

Doubt it.

johnny reb
14 Jun 2024  #167

Doubt it.

I didn't mean with Ukraine, I meant with NATO.
Putin is talking WW3 by rattling his saber louder every day.

Korvinus
15 Jun 2024  #168

Putin has agreed to end the war if his two proposals were met.

Agreements with the Baltic States:​

Treaty of Tartu with Estonia (1920):
Details: Recognized Estonia's independence and established borders.
Breach: Soviet occupation and annexation of Estonia in 1940.
Treaty of Tartu with Latvia (1920):
Details: Recognized Latvia's independence and established borders.
Breach: Soviet occupation and annexation of Latvia in 1940.
Non-Aggression Pacts with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania (1932):
Details: Non-aggression pacts signed with each of the Baltic states.
Breach: Soviet occupation and annexation of the Baltic states in 1940 following the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Soviet-Lithuanian Peace Treaty (1920):
Details: Recognized Lithuania's independence and established borders.
Breach: Soviet occupation and annexation of Lithuania in 1940.
Baltic Entente (1934):
Details: Mutual defense pact between Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania aimed at countering aggression from larger neighbors.
Breach: Soviet occupation of the Baltic states in 1940, rendering the pact moot.
Treaty of Non-Aggression and Neutrality (1926) with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania:
Details: Non-aggression treaties signed with each of the Baltic states aimed at ensuring peaceful relations.
Breach: Soviet invasion and annexation of the Baltic states in 1940.
Baltic States' Neutrality Agreements (1939):
Details: Agreements signed in 1939 recognizing the neutrality of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

Agreements with Poland:​

Treaty of Riga (1921):
Details: Ended the Polish-Soviet War and defined borders.

Novichok
15 Jun 2024  #169

Two questions from the "surrender boy" aka Novichok:

1. How many more dead Ukrainians will it take for PF Russia-hating morons to say: Enough![

2. Why aren't the brave EU armies liberating Ukraine from Russia right now?

Novichok
15 Jun 2024  #170

Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia.

The citizens there voted to join the Russian Federation. Russia said: OK. End of the story.

Bottom line: Either there is such a thing as self-determination or not.

If there is such a thing as self-determination, are there two kinds? The good kind when we like the outcome and the bad when we don't?

Novichok
15 Jun 2024  #171

Memo to President Putin:

Give them hell the way the US often does. We call it "shock and awe".

BTW, it is beneficial to both sides as it saves lives and that's why we like it more than that WW1 trench bullshlt.

Let me know when it's safe for Americans to visit Russia. I don't want to be arrested as a US spy. I like Russia too much and I don't speak Russian to be a spy.

pawian
15 Jun 2024  #172

Memo to President Putin:

Give them hell

He is trying but Ukrainians are massacring his troops with Western armament. 1000 Russians eliminated daily. Can you imagine????

How many more dead

How about a little change: how many dead Russians will it take for Russia lovers in the PF to say enough???

Let me know

Did you notice nobody wants to talk to you in this thread apart from me???? hahahaha

pawian
15 Jun 2024  #173

My wish is that the US take care of its own people and its own problems before trying to fix Ukraine.

It is certainly a good thing to fix problems within your country first.
However, USA`s main problems are endemic or chronic and can`t be fixed coz they have been haunting your country for decades and nothing has been done to change the situation.

That is why the Western world`s expectations are fair - USA, do your fekking duty with international aid which you have always done for decades or even for a century now if we recall USA`s military intervention in WW1.

mafketis
15 Jun 2024  #174

1000 Russians eliminated daily

Weirdly.... no one who supports russia cares about dead russians.... it's really amazing how little russians (or russia supporters) care about human life.... a different, pre-modern mentality

In other news apparently Dmitry Bykov (generally regarded as the best living author in russian) points out that putin has a track record of accomplishing the opposite of his stated goals

he wanted to dominate the Chechens.... Chechens dominate russia (which pays them lots of money to not follow russian laws and they roam the corridors of power in moscow) or look at the (not so rare) cases of Chechens brutalizing/raping russians and suffering no consequences.

he wanted to establish russia a world power.... and it hasn't been this weak since the early 1990s

he wanted Ukrainians to look up to and respect russia.... and now they hate it 10 times more than the most intense Ukrainian nationalists thought possible.

he's a weak stupid man who made no plan B and he'll destroy the country rather than admit he was wrong.... thought to be honest, I'm fine with him inflicting even more damage on russia, a country that needs to be neutered (let's make sure Ukraine has a big pair of pruning shears).

pawian
15 Jun 2024  #175

he wanted to establish russia a world power..

They can be a power on condition they give up imperial conquest as a style of life. It worked in 19th century but doesn`t anymore nowadays.

Novichok
15 Jun 2024  #176

Two questions from the "surrender boy" aka Novichok:

1. How many more dead Ukrainians will it take for PF Russia-hating morons to say: Enough![

2. Why aren't the brave EU armies liberating Ukraine from Russia right now?

pawian
15 Jun 2024  #177

How many more dead

How about a little change: how many more dead Russians will it take for Russia lovers in the PF to say enough???

Why

Why nobody wants to talk to you in this thread apart from me???? hahahaha

jon357
15 Jun 2024  #178

no one who supports russia cares about dead russians

Yet so many r*SSia supporters pretend to care about dead Ukrainians, even though it's their side doing th3 killing.

he wanted to dominate the Chechens.... Chechens dominate russia

Do you remember the scandal when r*SSia was fighting Chechnya and their media were going crazy because the Chechens allegedly had a slave market in Grozhny ? Then it turned out that the slaves were r*SSian army conscripts who had been sold to the Chechens by their 'officers'...

Korvinus
15 Jun 2024  #179

srussia

johnny reb
15 Jun 2024  #180

Ukraine's strikes on Crimean air defenses could end its role as a Russian military staging ground.
The tide of war is beginning to turn in Kyiv's favor now they can begin to strike targets in Russia.

Why nobody wants to talk to you in this thread apart from me?

I will.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-soldiers-desert-en-masse-to-avoid-frontlines-in-ukraine/ar-BB1ohtdn?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=af19298d92c74d1ab660fbfd7d553c60&ei=33

msn.com/en-us/news/world/humiliation-for-putin-as-his-soldiers-forced-to-surrender-after-raid-goes-horribly-wrong/ar-BB1ohTkZ


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