Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12

Fyodor Lukyanov: Here's why this weekend's Ukraine 'peace conference' is a sham
Zelensky hoped the Swiss summit would be a huge propaganda victory, but it hasn't worked out

A feel-good dog-and-pony show that means shlt... The wine and cheese were excellent, though...

Now, children, some examples of chutzpah:

Euro-puppets pretending they matter. They don't.

Dictating peace terms when you are losing.

Of course the wine and cheese is better than the grey sludge available in North Nigeria

As for "shock and awe" the slight problem is the Ukrainians now have better missiles - faster, more accurate and not maintained by alcoholics, certainly enough to destroy some large North Nigerian towns.

So Putler's only tactic is the meat grinder and be already has 700.000 men down there, who have advanced less than 20km since January.

Meanwhile in russia (which some idiots think of as an alternative to muslim immigration)....

islamic state militants invaded a prison in Rostov and have taken prisoners.... special forces have arrived and the sound of gunfire fills the air....

x.com/nexta_tv/status/1802231688468078614

and in moscow over 200,000 muslims are blocking traffic and praying in the street...

x.com/nexta_tv/status/1802258678419960049

need western right wingers need to remember that putain is employing his own 'great replacement'.... he's a globalist thru and thru, just a different kind of globalist....

What a lovely sight...



... so many God-fearing men praying publicly. Such shows of godliness are truly heartwarming. And when I think that those lovely men have 5-6 children (with each of their 4 wives), then the future of wokism, cancel culture, dick-waving parades and all this nonsense suddenly doesn't look too bright. Subhanallah! :)

Of course, there are certain flaws in their theology (in soteriology, among other things) with which we will have to deal later. But before that happens we will grab a bag of popcorn and watch. :) And remember, leftards - you brought them to Europe, so you deserve all that will happen to you. *grabs popcorn*

Are they looking for some mice?

Good for them.

In the decadent west, they collect the meat from today's major festival (they always have too much) and distribute it to the poor.


Only if you can afford it.


A meaningless word.

It is indeed meaningless, like all leftardism and neomarxist anti-culture.

The word is certainly without meaning.

The concept however of decency, tolerance, mutual respect and a dislike of economic and social injustice is however common to the better parts of the human race and is as old as time.


They may as well just weigh the orc meat as count the terrified conscripts.

Yes! These are all the values that we share with our Muslim brothers! Of course, they are better in the economic and social injustice area (with their ban on usury for example).

Also, they will--I am sure of it--also be better than us in dealing with certain aspects of modern western societies that are an open insult to Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala). After all, the future belongs to those who follow God's commandment to be fruitful and multiply. Aaaah... how wise is our Lord. :)

*grabs even more popcorn*

And we do it properly, despite the attempts of small-minded conservatives to cleave to all the bad things of the past.

It's quite odd that you're wibbling on about Islam (or more specifically weird stuff about those who follow it), particularly on a day when Muslims are at home celebrating their version of Easter. More significant is that Ukraine, using outdated and donated weapons, have just destroyed 5 'state of the art' (hahahaha) r*SSian missile defence systems in occupied Crimea, and that r*SSian orc meat losses have averaged over 1000 pairs of boots per day since their 'offensive' started.

It's a demographic crisis coming in r*SSia (which already has serious demographic issues and plunging male life expectancy) which is probably unparalleled since the Middle Ages. Sooner or later, their orc meat losses will exceed 1 million.

Putler will lose this war, however he will also lose a generation of workers.

Oh, come on, Joni. Let's not argue on this lovely Eid al-Adha day. :)


Maf posted a link to the nice photo. I only express my delight regarding the future prospects of wokism, feminazism, leftardism, and other meaningless things under Islam. :)


Now you're just being a nasty son of a brit again.


Hopefully!

Starts at nightfall. Since you've mentioned it a few times, presumably you'll be taking part. I personally won't, however several people have said they'll bring me some food from the 'barbecue', which basically means offloading meat. I'll give it to the stray animals.

Not relevant though to r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, the one that will destroy them

Anyway, it's 34c, I'm right by a deserted palm fringed beach and am off for a swim.
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All things in your mind. Then again, I remember you once claiming that drag artistes were stubbing out cigarettes on nuns in the centre of Warsaw (on Krakowskie Przedmieście no less!!), so perhaps reality is not your thing.


Nasty is sending an army of orcs to rape, kill and torture. There is nothing good about r*SSia.

Alas, I will be too busy watching Euro 2024 matches. But I shall keep my fingers crossed for our Muslim brothers to have a great holiday.


Your memory is playing tricks on you.


There is not a single country in the world about which this sentence would be true, and certainly not Russia. Cut out the hate, Joni. We have to defeat our enemies, not hate them. Hatred in general is a nonsensical feeling, even if Greeks claim that το μίσος είναι η μισή εκδίκηση.

you are onto something here T, after all, we have more in common with some branches of Islam than with all that left agenda which i stoxic. Iran's version doesn't seem to be as bad, the same goes for the Turkish one.

Me too, and our sisters as well. They after all (like a Polish Christmas or Easter) tend to get saddled with the cooking while the men watch TV.


It fits r*SSia very well indeed, after Bucha and Mariupol. Not to mention the chemical weapons attacks in Syria, dropping gas on civilians. They've even carried out a chemical weapons attack in Western Europe.


And so much hatred against Muslims right now. Nevertheless, there's no other genuine emotion that is appropriate to feel about r*SSia, except apart from sadness that they've killed a generation of young men for nothing.

Hopefully Ukraine will step up the missiles and take down the Kerch Bridge soon.

Oh, definitely! And let's not forget that Islamic Turkey always opposed the partitions of Poland whilst our dear Christian brothers of all sorts (Catholics from Austria, Orthodox from Russia, and Protestant from Prussia) were more than happy to enslave us.

One has to think outside the box sometimes and I'm glad to see you doing just that, Iron. *thumbs up*


Stop criticising Muslim and Catholic male-female relationships - that's islamophobic and chadphobic.


Yes, it's horrible. #saynotohatred

It's the same in many other societies.


Very true.

Except hatred to orcs. That is fine.

Torq, I wonder why you are wasting your time on this azhole...

Let's look at the achievements of 'Geopolitical Chess Champion' and 'Master Tactician' Vladolf Putler:

· Overcame a much smaller adversary in 3 days ❌
· Liberated Kyiv from malign western influence ❌
· Protected r*SSian speaking Oblasts from 'nazis' ❌
· Prevented the expansion of NATO ❌
· Showcase r*SSian military status as No 2 army in the world ❌
· Demonstrated r*SSian military hardware as being 2nd only to the west's ❌
· Projected r*SSian naval power to a watching world ❌
· Maintained r*SSian military superiority over China❌
· Bolstered the r*SSian economy as one of the G10 ❌
· Boosted the status of the orc dictator on the world stage❌
· Starved the world into submission by blocking grain exports❌
· Rattled the west into abandoning Ukraine as it did in 2014 by rattling the nuclear sabre ❌
· Demonstrated r*SSian military tactical nous by limiting the losses of personnel and equipment ❌
· Avoided British, US & EU sanctions and the destruction of their main oil renevues ❌
· Successfully avoided indictment by International Criminal Courts
· Widened r*SSia's circle of friends and partners ❌

Given the above and the shrivelled twitcher's lame suggestion of a peace deal, how long before the r*SSian people see him for the demented failure that he is and feed him feet first into a furnace at the Lubyanka.

I am just being patient. This way one day Jon will see the light (conservative Christian light); whilst your sophisticated approach of calling him "faggot" five times a day will only make you an enemy (an online one but still).

PF Old Guard must respect one another. Banter is OK, malice isn't.

Why conservative?

Especially since the founders of the religion were anything but.

Of course, if you're looking for Christian values, they underpin the West (including all those things that some rather oddly describe as 'wokeness') whereas in r*SSia the 'values' they hold are more those of the pre-Christian era of wholesale violence and slaughter.


Indeed. And sady it's gone down here since Towarzysz Ryszard took up trolling as a retirement hobby and came here to spit his bile.

And there's so much good news from Ukraine this week too. Much better to discuss that than get bored with his ranting about trans people or African Americans.

Well, yes I suppose it all boils down to how far back in history we want to go. My reference point is Medieval Christianitas of cathedrals, universities and common godliness and piety among all strata of society - the pinnacle of human civilisation so far. It is your British historian, Christopher Dawson, who made me fully appreciate the beauty of Middle Ages.


Of course.

@Novichok

See, imagine Jon making a statement like the one in bold above in an exchange with you. So, whose approach is better? :)


Right. I am dragging the thread off-topic. Sorry.

Probably a lot less of that than people think today; nostalgia for non-existent past glories is dangerous. Humans seem to be programmed to be nostalgic about a 'Golden Age' and that is essentially a pessimistic thing. That and fear of the future.


Normal here.

Anyway, to get back on topic:

There are a few basic, unassailable facts that bear constant repetition.

- Putler chose to invade a neighbouring, democratic, sovereign nation.
- That choice has now led to hundreds of thousands of lives lost, including children.
- r*SSian armed forces have committed atrocity after atrocity after atrocity against the people of Ukraine and against international law.
- The people of r*SSia overwhelmingly support this invasion.
- Putler and his generals are now wanted war criminals.
- Those facts demand the removal or destruction of all r*SSian forces in Ukraine.
- Those facts demand the total isolation of r*SSia as a pariah state.
- Those facts demand Putler answers for destroying the lives of millions

Only 80 countries signed the Ukraine Pep Rally document. Many attendee countries passed on signing it. The reality is the slow grinding war continues as EU sanctions alienate more BRIC countries.

What is that?


Hardly surprising since the whole point of sanctions by the free world is to alienate one of those four. And if the other three dislike that, let them disassociate from the miscreants and become BIC rather than BRIC. They need a good shave.

Biden to Ukraine: You're not getting into NATO, but that doesn't mean you can stop bleeding for us
It's increasingly clear that Kiev isn't wanted as part of the military bloc, but as a willing sacrifice lured by promises

NATO, Biden explained, is not part of his plans for Ukraine's future. To be precise, while NATO membership during an ongoing war has always been an absurd idea, Biden has ruled it out for the future postwar peace as well.

This is beyond funny...hahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Which is what I said over a year ago...The US MICC always needs useful idiots. This time, it's Z and the poor sobs who were not allowed to GTFO.

Now, it's time for my daily prayer: Dear God...Please let me be wrong just once before I come knocking on your door...

@jon357
A pep rally is where sycophants cheer wildly for one team or tribe,

It is fairly obvious sanctions failed yet again. Russia is increasing their defense output while not dumping a lot of their gdp into it.

As someone who dealt with global manufacturing and trade; sanctions have a dark side not talked about. You merely steer your targets into new markets. And this show other countries dealing with the west is not always so great. Already we are seeing a dial back on trading with dollars and Euros. It will not stop all together. To much is floating around in central banks. We can not easily stop it without harming our own economies. All the floating money coming home drives interests rates through the roof at home. We do not want that either.

But by the same token; BRIC's are unlikely to float a reserve currency to replace the dollar either. But we can not quit them, and they can not quit us. But sanctions can close emerging, hot markets to Western businesses. And we can lose natural resources.

A "peace conference" with just one side was moronic to start with.

Germans can tell us all about it...

I feel sorry for them...They could be the #1 powerhouse of Europe and Russia's best trading partner. Instead, they still have to deal with the US occupational army some 80 fvcking years later...

I don't want to hear any crap how we are in Germany to protect them from Russia. That BS is old and laughable...

Switzerland has assured Putin that he will not face arrest in the country if he attends potential peace negotiations for Ukraine, despite an international arrest warrant issued against him by the International Criminal Court.