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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 17



Bobko
3 Dec 2024  #211

On top of Georgia doing a complete 180 ever since our war with them, you can also add Azerbaijan to that mix now.

A couple of years ago, when Azerbaijan was pummeling Armenia, everybody on PF was cheering: "Woooohoooo, Russia's allies are getting crushed and there's nothing they can do about it!"

Nobody seemed to care then, that a rich petro-state was preying on its much smaller and poorer neighbor. For PF masters of strategy - if something is bad for Russia - it's good enough for them.

In the years since, the powerful Armenian diasporas in places like France and the United States have worked hard to turn Azerbaijan into a pariah. The only thing keeping Azerbaijan from being lumped into the same club as Russia, is that Europe needs it oil - for now.

A bit surprised at how fast it went from being the West's darling (for embarrassing Russia's allies), to again being termed a regressive eastern dictatorship, Azerbaijan is slowly coming back into the fold.

Their little foray into being independent (by leveraging Turkish and Israeli help), has pretty quickly come to an end.

I guess you can't fight the laws of gravity inside the former Soviet Union.

So the reply to people that say Ukraine will not forgive Russia for at least a century, is IT CAN HAPPEN MUCH FASTER THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT.

jon357
3 Dec 2024  #212

There's already some small signs that the Ukrainian electorate is losing faith in the West

There aren't though are there.

Are those signs in the room with you now?

And meanwhile, r*SSia's 'currency' has lost a quarter of its value since August.

Bobko
3 Dec 2024  #213

There aren't though are there.

There are, and they are everywhere.

On Twitter, in comments under articles, on Facebook (still popular in Ukraine), in their press, and on their tv.

It's evident in Zelensky's increasingly irritated replies to various Western proposals (like lowering the mobilization age to 18).

There is a realization dawning upon the people that they had been had. This is what the Georgian government capitalized on, and why they won that vote so overwhelmingly. Unfortunately the intelligentsia of Tbilisi, Batumi and Kutaisi are not willing to accept what the rest of their countrymen have voted for.

jon357
3 Dec 2024  #214

Twitter, in comments under articles, on Facebook (still popular in Ukraine

Probably paid orcs. Like the laughable ones in newspaper comments fields in the IK who pretend to have English names but write in ways that no English person ever would.

And remember, most people don't use the internet that much.

and why they won that vote so overwhelmingly

A rigged election with r*SSian interference.

Bobko
3 Dec 2024  #215

A rigged election with r*SSian interference.

Where is the proof?!?

It's been weeks, and people are at the point of wanting to torch the parliament building - and I still have not seen proof.

There were thousands of observers. The State Department and the EU, only ever said they want a recount and an investigation. It was done - it did not change the results whatsoever.

You can't just pillage and burn your way to getting the electoral result you want.

Show proof of mass ballot stuffing. Show that people were barred from voting. Show intimation of voters.

Otherwise it's all just sour grapes over losing.

Bobko
3 Dec 2024  #216

In the end, the power of Truth - with a capital letter "T" - overrides everything else.

Russia is winning, and will eventually win - because we were honest and true.

We have less money, less weapons, less people - less of everything... But we have the Truth.

All the Western bluster can't obscure it.

cms neuf
3 Dec 2024  #217

You have more land !

And I think more tigers than any other country ?

Crow
3 Dec 2024  #218

Serbian political commentators says that Polish people reacted properly because organized massive protests against war with Russia. Poles are good and wise. I kiss them in the brain.

pawian
3 Dec 2024  #219

I am not only assimilating, but completely integrating. I speak Polish, not well, every day, and communicate with Poles in Polish.

Wow! We didn`t know about it. You have impressed us now. Hats off!

Novichok
3 Dec 2024  #220

All the Western bluster can't obscure it.

...or the insults how Russians don't have a clue what citizenship is all about...
As a reminder:



I watched this video about six times and didn't notice any confusion what country is theirs.

pawian
3 Dec 2024  #221

I watched this video about six times

Do you stand to attention when that anthem is played????

Crow
3 Dec 2024  #222

I watched this video about six times

Thanks for sharing. Congrats to Russia.

pawian
3 Dec 2024  #223

Congrats to Russia.

Down with one Russia!!! We will congratulate them when they multiply into 15 Russistans! )::):)

Novichok
3 Dec 2024  #224

I forgot to mention that nobody did or will ever compose a better anthem...

pawian
3 Dec 2024  #225

a better anthem...

Now kneel down and kiss Putin`s portrait on your bedside table! :):):)

Tacitus
3 Dec 2024  #226

@Bobko

In WWI we were again not acting "on our own", but

Russia was fighting on its" own, and without allies helping and guiding it along the way it got defeated. Which is a pattern in Russian military history like I said. Russia either loses or suffers such high losses that it becomes a Pyrrhic victory.

we won literally within 72 hrs

Do you think NATO won in Afghanistan?

Novichok
3 Dec 2024  #227

it got defeated. Which is a pattern in Russian military

...thus proving that Russia is not an aggressive nation. They need friendly buffers but buffers are not acts of aggression.

A nation that is ready to attack is a nation that is ready to defend itself.

Do you think NATO won in Afghanistan?

NATO is a desk with a phone to DC and a pile of memos and manuals.

Alien
3 Dec 2024  #228

Because the army pays better, Russian women are sending their husbands en masse to the war with Ukraine. Clever women.

Crow
4 Dec 2024  #229

Men are men, women are women.

cms neuf
4 Dec 2024  #230

Excellent FT article about North Nigerian war crimes in Kherson

ft.com/content/31b630b3-2639-456c-ba50-3caea7a9b2b5

90 verified videos of individual drone attacks on Ukrainian civilians, includes women, pemsioners and ambulances

Far from being the work of a few rogue drunks, this seems to be a conscious effort from commanders to use these moving targets as practice, as they are difficult to replicate in a test environment.

johnny reb
4 Dec 2024  #231

A nation that is ready to attack is a nation that is ready to defend itself.

Some nations better think twice about that.
The British Army would be wiped out in as little as six months if forced to fight a war on the scale of the Ukraine conflict, a defense minister has warned.
Alistair Carns said a rate of casualties similar to Russia's invasion of Ukraine would lead to the army being "expended" within six to 12 months.
Scary thought to say the least.

Novichok
4 Dec 2024  #232

Hey, Tacitus, read this before you give any advice to Russia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuengamme_concentration_camp

How my babysitter and I survived there is beyond my comprehension.

A reminder to PF bootlickers...

You are the very worst because there are so many of you. Without you, the obedient and gutless morons, guys like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao would be powerless.

Lenka
4 Dec 2024  #233

Without you, the obedient and gutless morons, guys like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao would be powerless.

With you however the while Europe if not the world would be Third Reich and USSR as noone would fight them.

Crow
4 Dec 2024  #234

Excellent FT article about North Nigerian war crimes in Kherson

You are brave or a fool. You continue to provoke. When Russians come, they will put you in Siberia. They making list already.

Somebody has to work for higher good.

Novichok
4 Dec 2024  #235

With you however the while Europe

With the obedient and gutless morons, white Western countries are turning into human garbage receptacles with whites as a minority where it counts the most.

NAZIs and the Soviets were a walk in the park on a summer day...One day they are here...next day...poof...they are gone...

Not so with migrants... Migrants are like herpes, AIDS, and cancer - combined ...forever...and deadly...

One day soon, the obedient and gutless DEI morons will be praying for Hitler 2.0.

A question for the Brits: Tell me with a straight face that the highlighted sentence would be ignored by your Thought Gestapo.

Korvinus
4 Dec 2024  #236

What do Russians and antifa have in common?

1. prevalent homosexuality
2. living in aids-infested squats
3. calling anything they dont like nazi fascist

Crow
4 Dec 2024  #237

@Korvinus

Its not nice how you speak, dobri brate. What is your secret desire?

I mean, you know that there is no reward for Poland if, in hypothetical case of Russia losing this war. You know that, don`t you? Only chance for Poland to become free is that Russia win. See? You know that, right?

Or you maybe don`t give a sh*t for being Polish? Are you THAT globalized?

Korvinus
4 Dec 2024  #238

Only chance for Poland to become free is that Russia win.

You don't really understand what soft power is. It's not the threat of violence, but the cultural, political and economic influence and significance that causes countries to make decisions in the interest of the wielder of such power.

Nobody had to force post-Soviet states at gunpoint to apply to NATO or the EU. They did so willingly seeing that it is in their interest. That's soft power, not Russian blackmail 'give us what we want or we shoot'.

Crow
4 Dec 2024  #239

You say golden cage is result of the soft power?

Well, call it as you wish but cage is a cage. Death in silence. But still, from that silent grave, you point at Russia.

mafketis
4 Dec 2024  #240

Things are going great for russia!

31% of their winter crops are in 'good' condition! Up from 74% last year!

Progress, po-russki!

x.com/GlasnostGone/status/1864248990071443765


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