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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19



jon357
5 Mar 2025  #1501

do you think hes worse even of an agent or as bad as

He's more an orc asset than an agent as such, however he's clearly not the one in charge over there.

Have you heard of Curtis Yarvin? The three creeps, musk, thiel and vance that hang on his every word are the triumvirate who run that country.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

Novichok
5 Mar 2025  #1502

musk, thiel and vance that hang on his every word are the triumvirate who run that country.

...as opposed to Biden - that brilliant man Euro parasites loved so much for his acumen and high IQ...so smart that he had to send his British wh0re to Z to jump start this war...

The three creeps

What made them creepy, azzfvcking cuntdodger?

jon357
5 Mar 2025  #1503

And people wonder why nobody comes here any more.

Novichok
5 Mar 2025  #1504

There is a simple fix. Wanna know what it is?

Bobko
5 Mar 2025  #1505

Eh ? Clinton left office in 2000, Putler took office in 2000

Haha. How quickly we forget.... Forgot that crazy election between Gore and Bush?

Clinton left office in 2001. Putin was acting president from December 31st 1999, to March 2000 - then became president.

They had a bit more than a year of overlap. So, yes they did meet and more than once.

Putin always talks about his love for Clinton. In one of the books about Putin, he says that Clinton acted as somewhat of a "president mentor". He had taken Putin under his wing during international summits, giving the freshly baked Russian president a big boost of confidence. At the time, Russia had little to offer during these get togethers - and was the clear odd man out. Clinton ensured that Putin felt welcome, and that the other heads of state do the same.

In 2017, at a panel discussion Putin said this:

"We (Clinton and I) had very good relations. I can even admit that I am grateful to him for some key moments of how I entered big politics. Several times he showed me signs of attention, respect both to me personally and to Russia. I remember this and am always grateful to him for this."

So not only did they have a chance to work together, but Clinton played a role of big brother to Putin.

The Bush-Putin bromance that followed was even better. They famously called each other soulmates. Bush said he peered into Putin's soul and found much to like. Called him a real Christian and a democrat. Only the war in Georgia could ruin their relationship.


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mafketis
5 Mar 2025  #1506

utin always talks about his love for Clinton

just what the world needed.... Cliton/putin slash fiction.... (excuse me I just threw up in my mouth a little....).

Vesko Vukovic
5 Mar 2025  #1507

The neo-cons successfully dismantled and pillaged the old U.S.S.R. in 1991 and reaped billions, if not trillions, in largely, free assets. The neo-cons thought Russia would fall just as easily, but were thwarted when Putin turned out a much stronger leader than the drunken Boris Yeltsin.



Vladimir Putin takes Oleg Deripaska to task

I especially like the moment when Putin orders the jew oligarch to return his pen.

Bobko
5 Mar 2025  #1508

Cliton/putin slash fiction

How's it make you feel that Clinton viewed Putin as a protege? The only other heads of state Clinton was closer to were Tony Blair and probably Boris Yeltsin (maybe Ehud Barak).

The last photo above is actually from Yeltsin's funeral.

Then when his wife became Secretary of State, of course there was the famous "Reset". Probably the peak of Russian-American relations.

Ahh... what could have been!

jon357
5 Mar 2025  #1509

The Bush-Putin bromance that followed was even better. They famously called each other soulmates

It's called diplomacy.

Called him a real Christian

He's a fine one to talk...

There is a simple fix. Wanna know what it is?

Yes. Ban you. Though God will doubtless take care of the problem before the next election in your country.

OneOnlyOne
5 Mar 2025  #1510

Guys look up on the tube "Nato Giant Ready for War" It looks like Germania is back. 900 billion borrowing to prepare but they betetr do it fast and there be a fukin speech about how The Deutschewn volk and Germania is back. I wanna see another hitler rise up and fuk both the ruskis and these twats these polaks at the same time and turmp and his entourage as well. Biaaaaaaach.

Torq
5 Mar 2025  #1511

God will doubtless take care of the problem

Didn't know you were a believer, Jon. Methodist?

Vesko Vukovic
5 Mar 2025  #1512

I wish Novichok to live to be at least 100 years old and after that we'll see 😁

Vesko Vukovic
5 Mar 2025  #1513

UK's Starmer embraces Zelensky after Trump fiasco

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London has promised Kiev a new $2.84 billion loan, which it hopes to fund with profits from frozen Russian assets


rt.com/news/613563-london-starmer-zelensky-loan/

No doubt Starmer's Jewish wife will give the thumb's up to her fellow tribal members. Ireland has just been given the work order to make 6 million drones, so the Jews are hot on the scent of easy money. Make billions while killing Russians, what's not to like?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Starmer

Vesko Vukovic
5 Mar 2025  #1514

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Bratwurst Boy
5 Mar 2025  #1515

...which it hopes to fund with profits from frozen Russian assets...

Now the UK start to think about using frozen russian assets....

Apropos:

France and Germany may seize Russian reserves to fund Ukraine

finance.liga.net/en/ekonomika/novosti/france-and-germany-may-seize-russian-reserves-to-fund-ukraine

Paris and Berlin have begun discussing the potential confiscation of frozen Russian reserves under certain conditions....

It looks like it won't be long now anymore.....supporting Ukraine with russian money!

jon357
5 Mar 2025  #1516

Now the UK start to think about using frozen russian assets

Macron has a point about inward investment from other parish states being deterred however we absolutely have to do this. It's Ukraine's money.

There's no reason to return it to the oligarchs who stole it and since America is playing silly buggers, it's the right thing to do.

That and destroy all pipelines taking gas from there so they can never be used again.

Methodist

Fúck no. They're great in the countryside, lovely people and I grew up within a couple of hours horse ride from Epworth where the founder lived. I had a lot of time for them and liked the ethos. In northern industrial cities however it's not even 1% of what it was 50 years ago and what's left is becoming a bit cult-like. Plus, where I live when I'm there, their chapel is in a poor bit of town but they all live in the gin and jaguar belt behind electric gates and park their Mercedes and Range Rovers outside the chapel on Sunday causing envy.

mafketis
5 Mar 2025  #1517

Clinton viewed Putin as a protege?

So.... we know who's the top and who's the bottom....

what could have been!

Yeah... but russia keeps acting all..... russiany and that kills any chance for a good relationship....

Bratwurst Boy
5 Mar 2025  #1518

It's Ukraine's money.

....French ministers had previously dismissed the possibility of asset confiscation, citing legal risks. France's Finance Minister, Éric Lombard, argued that since France is not at war with Russia, seizing assets would contradict international agreements.....

That's what I call Trumps behaviour is "turning quite a few heads"!

...However, amid a possible shift in U.S. policy on security support for Europe, France and its allies are seeking new ways to assist Ukraine. Recent statements from President Emmanuel Macron suggest a change in approach, as he hinted that frozen Russian assets could be part of negotiations to end the war. ....

Not to mention that Germany's soon-to-be-new-Chancellor will also take a different stance than Scholz....

Positions of other countries

- Baltic and Scandinavian countries are pushing for the immediate transfer of funds to Ukraine.

- The United Kingdom supports using frozen assets to finance loans for Kyiv.

- Germany currently opposes confiscation, but Chancellor Friedrich Merz may reconsider the stance after the government transition.....


Vesko Vukovic
5 Mar 2025  #1519

So.... we know who's the top and who's the bottom....

queer

Vesko Vukovic
5 Mar 2025  #1520

z

Przelotnyptak1
5 Mar 2025  #1521

Yea, WW3 because Russia will feel emboldened to go after its other neighbors too if you give them what they want.

Poland, of all the NATO countries, has carried its shear of burden and much, much more, except for USA, to protect Ukraine and its people.
Poland's population should understand that history goes in circles, and those who do not learn history lessons will pay a heavy price.
Remember WW2, France, and Britain and worthless assurances. How many Western Europeans would be ready to send their sons in case of WW3, to die defending Poland
As Wankowicz has witnessed, the Franch family evacuated before German forces invaded their country, ready for elaborate lunch, swearing and coursing
Poland for causing their discomfort and interrupting their meal. It is time for Slavs to realize that a solution to their security depends on solidarity among Slavs minus Russia and additional Baltic States. Counting on the West is a recipe for disaster, and Poland as a nuclear waste.

PolAmKrakow
5 Mar 2025  #1522

@TheOneTheOnly
Get yourself a history lesson before choking on the big old American c0ck.

@Bobko
Thank you for the dates and photos. Remember the video of Putin on Bush's ranch in Texas as they drove around just checking out the property?

All the talk from France is funny. France, Germany, UK all of them are not going to do $hit if Trump doesnt approve. Thats the bottom line. This war is coming to a very fast end, and all the "democrats" and "leftists" with the globalist agenda can get fvcked. Slovakia already out on any further support of Ukraine. Hungary on its way out, and even Tusk said the EU is completely unreasonable in its thinking that the US should protect Europe or Ukraine. I watched the TVN interview with Duda today and they wanted to set him up to look bad and he demolished the reporter interviewing him.

Torq
5 Mar 2025  #1523

liked the ethos

I know they're big on LGBT inclusion (at least UMC is); there's a couple of interesting books on the matter by Methodist authors. In general, they are open-minded and, in a way, leftist in their approach to social issues, so I thought you might be a Methodist.

Counting on the West is a recipe for disaster, and Poland as a nuclear waste.

Who would turn Poland into nuclear waste? The West? Poland withdrew from Warsaw Pact precisely because the plans (revealed by Kukliński) of the conflict with the West doomed Poland to become the target of Western nuclear strikes. Are you saying that now the West would nuke us again? Or did you mean Russia? Why does everyone want to nuke us? :(

Torq
5 Mar 2025  #1524

In other news: 60 modernized (reactive armor and reinforced front armor, improved gun sight, digital communications, new tracks and night vision) T-72 tanks have just arrived in Kiev from Poland as a part of 46th Polish aid package for Ukraine, announced in February.

Ukraine has received about 800 tanks from the West, over 410 (counting with the newest batch) of which came from Poland.

jon357
5 Mar 2025  #1525

I know they're big on LGBT inclusion

Where I am, not so much but they're not paranoid about it either as far as I know. It would t affect my choice if denomination either way really.

Near where I lived in Leeds there is a Moravian settlement, sort of a variant of Methodism nowadays. The women wear eighteenth century bonnets at church and their ethos is very tolerant of human nature.

There's a bleak side to it or was. As I said, it's not what it once was. Things like Methodist Bright Hour were good for working class women in factory towns with rotten lives. It can be very judgemental though.

The most famous quote of their founder, John Wesley, is a good thing for us all to live by. Sort of the opposite of r*SSia:

Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, to all the souls you can, in every place you can, at all the times you can, with all the zeal you can, as long as ever you can

Velund
5 Mar 2025  #1526

Why does everyone want to nuke us? :(

"If you have a German on one side and a Russian on the other, who do you shoot first?" "The German. Business before pleasure." (Polish joke).

So, you are alive as independent nation while you too weak to turn your national joke to reality. And will be crushed later, without a doubt, especially after Urkaine showed the world what it mean to be a "torpedo" with overseas benificiary against neighbour .

But have fun for a while...


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Crow
5 Mar 2025  #1527

Poland will soon join with Hungary and Serbia and therefore show desire to live.

Torq
5 Mar 2025  #1528

@Jon

Traditional Wesleyan holiness movement has its undeniable allure too. Heretics, from the Catholic point of view, of course but very likeable heretics nonetheless. :)

Sort of the opposite of r*SSia

Russia has had a lot of great Orthodox saints, monks and ascetics. It's just that their ruling class doesn't seem to be following any type of Christianity really (not that Polish political class is much better but at least we don't invade our neighbours).

national joke

Hey, there are many national jokes; Курица не птица, Польша не заграница - remember? Don't be petty, Veli.

And will be crushed later

You will, of course, forgive me if I fail to tremble with fear. :)

Ukraine showed the world

Oh, for crying out loud... Russia guaranteed the inviolability of Ukrainian borders and then invaded Ukraine (twice!). How do you find a plausible way of blaming Ukraine for this??? And don't give me this NATO b*llcrap - Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world: nobody was EVER going to invade you.

Let's keep things simple - ok, tankist?

Bratwurst Boy
5 Mar 2025  #1529

nobody was EVER going to invade you.

That sounds so made-up anyhow....

After all Putin wanted to liberate the Ukrainians (from the Nazis)....there was never any talk about feeling threatenend!

Torq
5 Mar 2025  #1530

After all Putin wanted to liberate the Ukrainians

Ukrainians, and then the Baltics, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria... perhaps even eastern Germany. Let's not forget that we are talking about a man who thinks that the fall of Soviet Union was a great tragedy for humanity and sees himself as the incarnation of Peter the Great, собиратель русской земли, Tsar of all Russia and f*ck knows what else.

People need to be reminded of the basics every now and then.


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