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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 22



mafketis
1 Jun 2025  #721

only 6 major waves of protest in 44 years

and none in russia.... there were protests at times in the USSR but none by russians... who it seems were fine with the USSR.

Torq
1 Jun 2025  #722

and none in russia...

More ruthless authorities, longer tradition of absolute power, hence traditionally less feeling of individual agency. But, again, all this applies to ordinary citizens not to decision makers.

jon357
1 Jun 2025  #723

Any other tips?

Yes. Stock up on dry goods. Best laid plans, especially if any involve government agencies or private companies ies, always have fatal flaws.

Also keep a wind up radio (the most useful ones also have usb points and good lights) as well as a Geiger counter. Keep them in a Faraday Cage. They sare easy to make. Keep some savings in gold coins. Not obscure ones, sovereigns, krugerrands or Swiss. Audit your home, and bear in mind ind where the nearest (even Cold War) airstrip, current or former militar6 facilit6 or government office is. The nukemal website can estimate damage.

Plus all the stuff like first aid kits, camping stoves, other bits and pieces.

my unit's barracks.

I hope that barracks will always be safe and well (unless the orcs, frogs or jerries take it over) however I especially hope that it won't get 25 kilotons on or near day one.

Be careful about flights. Especially if the prices start to suddenly rocket. Around the time that you notice vans leaving your local museum and art gallery, when some of the more outspoken critics of the government stop being seen in TV and you hear a lot of bangs from your local prison.

jon357
1 Jun 2025  #724

Nukemap. Not nukemal. That website is worth a look

Torq
1 Jun 2025  #725

Around the time that you notice vans leaving your local museum and art gallery

I will know well in advance. Not going to wait until the last moment, and these days - with all the satellite surveillance - it's really difficult to keep anything in secret. If I were a Ukrainian my family would have been out of there around November '21.

hope that it won't get 25 kilotons on or near day one

If it does, then I won't have to worry about dry goods either. :) Having said that, I don't think Russians will nuke us (at least not right away). They would definitely nuke the Czechs, as it is beneath Russian dignity to play war with Pepiks. But I know them well - with us they would surely fight.

mafketis
1 Jun 2025  #726

More ruthless authorities, longer tradition of absolute power, henc

a big difference in values.... Poles value freedom, russians don't.

johnny reb
1 Jun 2025  #727

Yes. Stock up on dry goods.

Also keep a wind up radio

Keep some savings in gold coins.

But you were poking fun at us preppers in the past and now you suddenly have become a paranoia one.
What gives ? ;-)

jon357
1 Jun 2025  #728

I will know well in advance

Really? Always prepare for not being.

Having said that, I don't think Russians will nuke us (at least not right away)

And probably not deliberately unless they want a no man's land as a buffer zone. Interestingly, one scenario I read about escalation involved an Orc tactical nuke misfiring, falling somewhere near Lublin and Poland triggering Article 5.

Remember. This isn't 'Doomsday Prepping'. Even the German government advise people to keep a certain amount of food. There's a difference between bearded conspirator gun freaks in Montana and making sensible precautions in civilised places

But

Buzz off.

johnny reb
1 Jun 2025  #729

This isn't 'Doomsday Prepping'

Nor was ours when you mocked us.
government advise people to keep a certain amount of food.

and survival gear as us preppers advised people like you to keep.
There's a difference

Really, please explain

jon357
1 Jun 2025  #730

It doesn't have permission to address me.

jon357
1 Jun 2025  #731

Interesting that the Seppos weren't told. I wonder if anyone else knew. It's not a huge surprise that they kept it close to their chests since Donald Trup is out of his depth and one or two people around him are a little too pro-r*SSia.

Donald Trump was not told about Ukraine's mass drone attack on Russia's strategic bomber bases.

The coordinated strikes, orchestrated by Ukraine's security services, targeted four airfields deep inside Russia in what could be the most damaging drone attacks of the three-year war.
Operation 'Web' allegedly hit more than 40 strategic bombers, took 18 months to execute and was personally overseen by Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukrainian security sources said

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/01/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest-news5291/

This is big. A huge setback for r*SSia

mafketis
1 Jun 2025  #732

that the Seppos weren't told.

Australian? Have you fallen that far?

While TACO.... UNCO (Ukraine Never Chickens Out).

Miloslaw
1 Jun 2025  #733

More Ukrainian propaganda for Alien and all the other Russian ar$e lickers, but this time it's from the BBC.....



amiga500
1 Jun 2025  #734

For once you post a credible source

Miloslaw
1 Jun 2025  #735

And this is a later broadcast from UK's Channel 4 with video footage;



Miloslaw
1 Jun 2025  #736

And more images of the most recent Ukrainian attack on Russia;



jon357
1 Jun 2025  #737

This one is worth a look. He writes some interesting things.

Putin seems to believe if you kill enough people they will acquiesce and give up, but his instincts and his tactics could soon bite him back hard, very hard.

Now that much of Russia is now in range of Kyiv attacks, be it drones, missiles or the frighteningly efficient assassins of Ukraine's secret service the SBU, how will the Kremlin respond?

telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/01/at-last-russia-is-getting-a-taste-of-its-own-medicine/

Have you fallen that far?

Gravity does that, given how far south it is.

Seriously, it's come via the U.K. army into general use. It was Sherman before that however that sounds too much like German.

video footage;

Spectacular. Like a mini Pearl Harbour but without the civilian casualties.

mafketis
1 Jun 2025  #738

Putin seems to believe if you kill enough people

The quickest and surest way for a russian leader to become beloved is to kill a bunch of russians...

They seemed to think that invading Ukraine would make the west like them....

Not enough attention is paid to this...

jon357
1 Jun 2025  #739

Not enough attention is paid to this

It would be interesting to know of they use AI much. Everyone else probably is.

Right now, he's either delusional or it's part of someone's (probably not his) strategy. They seem to be playing for time. That or waiting for a major missile strike on a city as a casus belli.

amiga500
1 Jun 2025  #740

Australian? Have you fallen that far?

We are both part of the Glorious Commonwealth and AUKUS.

What is a seppo in Australian slang?
‡Seppo, a pejorative term for an American. Seppo is a diminutive of septic tank which is in turn rhyming slang for yank, which is a diminutive of yankee.

Miloslaw
1 Jun 2025  #741

It would be interesting to know of they use AI much.

Apparently the Ukrainian drones that destroyed 40 Russian bombers, some in Siberia, used AI to identify their targets.

Przelotnyptak1
2 Jun 2025  #742

On the other hand, Golden Moron's predictions seem to turn into complete failures right after they are posted.

johnny reb
2 Jun 2025  #743

Russia has more than enough weapons to finish this war yet their military complex is running at full production producing even more weapons for some reason.
Makes one wonder what is on Putin's mind for Europe.
And remember, Europe faces $1 trillion bill to replace U.S. military support.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/europe-faces-1-trillion-bill-to-replace-u-s-military-support/ar-AA1EUuQG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5312be3a31d34a69824a2e351259ddeb&ei=28

The IISS report indicates that a potential withdrawal of the USA from Europe would expose NATO members to a serious threat from Russia.
Replacing American equipment and personnel with equivalent resources would cost about $1 trillion and could take up to 25 years.

I fear that Europe is in a heap of shlt again in the near future.

Novichok
2 Jun 2025  #744

I fear that Europe is in a heap of shlt again in the near future.

It's about time for these arrogant ******** to take care of their own ****.

Those stars are mine since I promised the Adman to behave.

Novichok
2 Jun 2025  #745

Interesting comments from RT:

Russia is always two steps behind Ukraine escalation and never responds... they always try to save Ukrainians, but some day will bring the doom of Russian people.

The only way to end a war is to fight a total war without restraint.

Russian General Staff knows what to do, but President Restraint has had them in handcuffs since 2022.

Ukraine is not afraid. They know Putin will do nothing, except maybe liberate some more potato fields.

Russia and it's so called restraint has become a joke.

If President Restraint had not handcuffed the General Staff in 2022 Russia would have celebrated victory in 2023. But no, Putin wants to be Mr Nice Guy, loved by everyone.


This is becoming a joke ... if we ignore 1 million dead men.

jon357
2 Jun 2025  #746

Apparently the Ukrainian drones that destroyed 40 Russian bombers, some in Siberia, used AI

They will have access to the best AI and to people who can use it.

is a diminutive of septic tank

And Putler's probably nipped off for a quick Tommy Tank.

PolAmKrakow
2 Jun 2025  #747

This Ukraine attack was precision. Very damaging for Putin and the military. How restrained will Putin be in his response? I cant imagine he will continue his current course of a slow grind. Zelensky has to become a target after this.

Ukraine really showed they can take the war to Russia with this attack. But if it took 1.5 years to plan, they better have more plans near completion and implementation. With 50K Russian soldiers preparing to enter the Sumy region, why isnt Ukraine going directly for those men?

cms neuf
2 Jun 2025  #748

Because those "men" are useless drunk farm boys with old WW2 rifles. In any case they weren't there 1.5 years ago

mafketis
2 Jun 2025  #749

Zelensky has to become a target after this.

They sent hit squads before... Zelenskyy has said people were killed in his office at the beginning.... and he's only a target now?

Ukraine again outperforms the TACO crowd's expectations....

I'm still waiting for Trump to say something negative about putin that doesn't sound bvtthurt...

TACO but Ukraine doesn't.

Novichok
2 Jun 2025  #750

How restrained will Putin be in his response?

When will it finally be known to all that nice and slow is not how you win wars?

Playing verbal games does not win wars, either..."Police action" and "SMO"...what a fvcking joke...

Remember Columbine? Today, cops storm the building as soon as they arrive and shoot to kill.


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