Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 28

Sometimes a simple answer is the right answer.

....I wish Germany would have only half es much balls as Israel has....

then you just end up back as mechahitler

Nah.....would have Israel existed back then as it does now, that all wouldn't had happened....think about that for a minute!

In the end no destroyed nor occupied Poland either....but the Jews had been weak...there was no strong Israel to back them up....and all of Europe is still paying for that! Not only Germany....

True.

True too....being powerful gains you bootlicker but no friendship!

Not far back Germans were the most hated ones...expelled and camped....only being a pussy gains you lotsa "friends".....nobody fears, hates or respects you...true!

The right wing nut jobs that did the expelling are the same ones now doing the invading and whinging.

Today's top tip...when you see an American with an Irish name you can be 99% certain their politics are reactionary.

BB, Trump and members of his admin have said such. They have all said Israel forced their hand.

It isn't a secret that Israel has expansionist aims.

The easy thing is to say this is about Iran and nukes-the official reason for this war. But, we were told, as recently as last week, that we destroyed Iran's nuke capability. They were no longer weeks away...like they've been for the past 30 years.

It's time that America and Europe remove our mouths from the israeli phallus. They are not important to us. However, they need us. Eff them.

Hell, you guys get thrown in jail for even thinking the Holocaust narrative should be examined. Where you think that comes from? Here anti-semitism laws are popping up to the point Jews are almost something like a special status.

You want to be active in the ME form partnerships with the GCC states, we have things in common: energy and desire for peace. They'd also be much better at helping deal with terrorism.

Israel gives us jack and war. They don't care about us-they only care about what they can get from us. And we gave them what they wanted. Bibi has said he's dreamed this for 40 years.

Not as long as the islamist nutters reign!


And no....once we lay down low (or let Israel alone), they will NOT become nice and friendly and start to like us suddenly...this is not our world!

@Bratwurst Boy

Have you noticed what's been going on in those Arab countries the past 15 -20 years or so?


I think you are completely wrong. They would be shooting themselves in the foot. They need us to buy their energy, we need them for their energy. They are investing in our economies, we invest in theirs. There is symbiosis.

What symbiosis is there with Israel? There isn't any.

....is there!

Maybe it is different in the US....but in Europe the girls start walking around in hijabs....german students are forced to hide their lunch during Ramadan...teacher start to throw christian teachings into the bin, preferring islam.....football gets new breaks during the game (also for Ramadan)....and so on, all to better fit the Sharia!

Tell me when you start feeling abit uncomfortable in your own country....but be prepared to hear some Israelis (and Europeans) from afar calling "...warned you!"

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*binds helmet and leaves*

Bb, come the hell on, man! I'm not talking about MEers migrating to our lands en masse, or even en miniatur (work with me).

I'm talking about economic and geopolitical cooperation...symbiosis. NOT IMMIGRATION.

I've been saying this for decades, Islam doesn't meld well with Western culture. We don't need a bunch of them here. But, we can work with ME govs economically and geopolitically. The GCC leaders and citizens of those countries like being rich, secure, and peaceful.

You think any of those islamists in your country would be willing to head home now? This war makes reverse immigration even more unlikely.

The EU without Russian oil is fukd as the Trump's war continues. That's what his empty promises got us. Poland along with Hungary will be the first to blame.

If I were spiteful, which I'm not, I would say that Germans are supporting Israel so hard because they see in them a spiritual continuation of Nazism.


First of all, you need to blame your elites, who are ineffective. Secondly, we have seen countries like Libya, Iraq, and Syria suffer under bad dictatorships. There were also the Taliban in Afghanistan, which led the US and Europe to intervene and put an end to some of these regimes. Now, we are left with chaos and nothing but a wave of so-called refugees. Wave after wave, while the US remains safely behind the ocean, we suffer the consequences of their half-baked policies and warmongering.

We say nothing, hoping for the US to be a reliable ally, but they seem to have lost their minds by attacking Iran. Even if they were to win-a highly unlikely scenario-all they would achieve would be more refugees and more chaos. Then Israel will step in, claiming a greater Israel, and say to Europe, "You anti-Semites, we are keeping the refugees away, you pay us tribute," and the US gets F you for all this.

Thesis - Nazi Germany

Antithesis - Israel

Synthesis - ???????

How come? Poland existed and it didn't stop Germany from invading and murdering millions of Poles. How would the existence of Israel stop what the Third Reich was going to do in Europe?

Its not about Poland, its about the Jews, Torqi....a strong Israel would had never allowed the Nazis to run their game...

Imagine what Trump did with Maduro....or Israel to Gaza....or what they do now together to Iran....Nazi-Germany would had never be allowed to fulfill their plans... maybe not even invading its neighbours, depending on the time and scale of the intervention...but definitely not the full scale destruction and occupation and partitioning of Europe as in 1945!

But the Jews were scattered....weak and isolated minorities in often enough hostile countries....there was nothing they could do to stop it!


Yeah....hence you using that word "symbiosis".....

Ineffective and often enough wantonly unhelpful.....especially the Left sympathizes with the islamist terrorists/with the whole religion, calls them "freedom fighter" (freedom from the bad capitalist West of course)....

But that now right people agree with the Lef in their anti-Israel attitude, that is a bit much....

@Bratwurst Boy

Symbiosis in commercial and geopolitics. Not national cultures. We each have something the other wants.

We have closer cultural connections with Jews, but we commercially and geopolitically have what Israel wants, but they offer us nothing in return. So, Jews meld culturally in the west, but Israel doesn't commercially and geopolitically.

So give me Jewish immigrants, and Arab commerce and politics. But keep away (most) Arab immigrants and Israeli politics.

Phew! :)

@Bratwurst Boy

We have to decouple ourselves from Israel. Tell their lobbyists in our countries we don't give flying eff about them and to bugger off (when I start using Brit terms you know I'm worked up 😄). They can go crawl up somebody else's a$$.

Not all, but many of the Gulf states are better partners. Qatar has basically become the new Switzerland. We need to shake off the decades if Israeli-sponsored propaganda and look at that area with clearer vision. IMO.

I'll say it: Israel is an enemy, not a friend. They don't give 2 sh!ts about us.

Could be! And why the hell not

....but they have the same enemies as the US and Israel (and Europe), the terrorist organizations!

Did I mention already that even Saudi Arabia puts all the hostility to Israel on the back for now and helps ending the Mullahs, the biggest terrorist sponsors? When its over, the terrorists destroyed, why not having good relations with all of them.

But these killers wouldn't let us, they have to go!


They fight our war!

All these nutters who scream "Death to the Jews" scream also "Death to the US" or alternatively "Death to the West!! Never forget that....

If they are not busy killing Israeli civilians, they are preparing another amok run somewhere in the US or in Europe!

We fight that war. They fight for expansion of Israeli territory.

If we re-arranged our ME policy, I bet there is less of the death to the west.

Even if that call remains, we can manage that better without Israeli provocation.

Anti.....these are ISLAMIST nutters! First they came for the Jews, then they come for the Christians, is that so unbelievable!

We see here in Europe how incompatible our cultures are, that has to do with a renewed religious fervor by these newcomers, that didn't happen accidently....to believe that once Israel is gone there will be peace between us is an illusion!

And they think we are Jewish and Christian nutters. So what?

Again, I'm not saying we open wide the doors to them. But, we know not all ME Islamists are nutters. Some, if not most, are reasonable who still function like normal human beings.

I din't buy Israel is our first and last defense against the Islamic scourge. That's Israeli propaganda.

We have more than adequate capacity to head off that scourge ourselves.

We need to learn how to head iff the Israeli scourge.

BTW, I'm not saying Israel has no right to defend itself. It does. I just don't want us involved in their defense. They offer us nothing.

It's sh!t like what's happening now that creates waves of migrants to your borders. Think Syria for recent example.

This has the actual opposite effect of keeping these "nutters" from our borders. It drives them toward it.

They are already here! Also in the US....whats his name of that new boss of New York? ;)

If we don't get a grip on them there could be civil war in the future....already they show again and again that they are unable/unwilling to adhere to a non-islamist main culture!

Being nice and "tolerant" is not helping in the long run....

And this war will cause more to come.

Israel likes that...they are away from them.

The West needs a quota on muslim immigrants....;)

Okay....have to leave now....'night all!

*waves*:)

How in the hell do you get that from what I wrote?!?!?

Yeah! Zero! We have too many already!

The fact is that in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Ukrainians are outsmarting the Russians at every turn......

Russia is fvcked part 53.....