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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 29



jon357
11 Jul 2026  #661

what army?

All our armies. And all our economic resources.

r*SSia won't change and can't be reasoned with. Allow this to continue and they will use the bomb.

Certainly there will be no sort of "business as usual" with them after they are defeated or they surrender. And no lifting of sanctions until the war crimes trials are done, until Ukrainian infrastructure is repaired, until every abducted child is returned to Ukraine and every Ukrainian death is compensated financially.

Novichok
11 Jul 2026  #662

r*SSia won't change and can't be reasoned with.

...but you can be reasoned with...right?

OK, reason us through that r*SSia thingy, jon...

What is the purpose, and what have you accomplished so far...

Przelotnyptak1
11 Jul 2026  #663

To ensure that r*SSia is demilitarised

Wishful thinking Jon, are you forgetting thousands of nuclear weapons, that's the crux of the problem. So, Jon, don't be shy, how would you do it?

jon357
11 Jul 2026  #664

are you forgetting thousands of nuclear weapons

Far from it, however it needs to be done one way or another.

Otherwise, with r*SSia it will just be another century of rinse and repeat.

mafketis
11 Jul 2026  #665

IIRC somewhere around 1990-91 the (still) soviet union only had about a month's worth of food with production stalling... in other words, looming hunger/famine...

The west (esp USA) saved it but very stupidly asked nothing in return hoping that the government would show some kind of gratitude....

That mistake should not be repeated.

russian harvest is in trouble because of fuel problems.... I don't care if they starve, they can't be helped without disarmament

Przelotnyptak1
11 Jul 2026  #666

No matter what Putler and r*SSia throw at them, they are never defeated.

That what you get when you decide to subjugate decedents of the greatest fighters, freedom loving, Cossacks. most if them, biologically identical to Polish
Witch brings me to maligned Warsaw uprising. I am ready for scorn but that's where my heart is

Szla do boju s butelka dziewczyna, by zapłacić im, albo Bo od śmierci straszniejszy był gniew.

Velund
11 Jul 2026  #667

The west (esp USA) saved it but very stupidly asked nothing in return

Probably you got your information from propaganda sources of last years. It was not free for xUSSR and there was solved a lot of internal problems of US farmers by bulk purchases of low grade freezed chicken meat and other similar products for shipping overseas.

jon357
11 Jul 2026  #668

That what you get when you decide to subjugate decedents of the greatest fighters

There's something in that.

A few nations seem unbreakable no matter what people do. Ukraine is one of those places.

identical to Polish

Ukrainians often say that they and Poles are Slavs whereas r*SSians so often aren't.

cms neuf
11 Jul 2026  #669

low grade freezed chicken

Having eaten "chicken" in North Nigeria then I can't imagine how bad this was if even you call it low grade LOL

Novichok
11 Jul 2026  #670

The West (esp USA) saved it but very stupidly asked nothing in return hoping that..

For three possible reasons or a combination...

1. Because Americans are more generous and better than any other nation. Period. Full stop.

2. Americans remember that it was the Red Army that carried the brunt of WW2 and, thus, saved many of them from dying on the Western front for nothing.

3. US warmongers need an enemy. This role has forever been assigned to Russia everywhere...in military planning, sports, movies, etc...

Even here...Hence that idiotic r*SSia, Putler, and other childish crap like this...

BTW, you don't know what the US was hoping. You were not there when the decision was made.

jon357
11 Jul 2026  #671

I can't imagine how bad this was if even you call it low grade

And of course now they have less and less fuel, food deliveries to towns in r*SSia are taking longer and longer

Novichok
11 Jul 2026  #672

r*SSia

Still find it amusing?

If you have a problem with English, loop up the thread title...It's:

Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 29

Did you notice "Russia"?

Did any Russian here refer to the United Kingdom as the United Crapdom?

mafketis
11 Jul 2026  #673

Footage from a russian strike on Sumy today.... notice the woman doing everything she can to shield her daughter

Everyone who supports this is scum of the earth...

x.com/saintjavelin/status/2076022541941195057

jon357
11 Jul 2026  #674

Everyone who supports this is scum of the earth...

So much of the online support for r*SSia seems to come from bots in far flung places.

The big article in The Economist is deeply disappointing. From an oligarch who they're painting as the great hope for r*SSia however he was just talk8ng from the Kremlin's script. As imperialistic as Solzhenitsyn really and not anti-Putler despite his weaselly language.

They hit an arms depot at about 3.30 last night. An especially nasty bang and no air raid siren or missile warning first. Then another big one which they perhaps tried as a double tap however it probably fell short of the target.

Novichok
11 Jul 2026  #675

notice the woman doing everything she can to shield her daughter

I am so shocked...

Did you know that in wars people die, and that there is no Santa?

mafketis
11 Jul 2026  #676

much of the online support for r*SSia seems to come from bots in far flung..

There are a lot of psychological defectives too...

an oligarch who they're painting as the great hope for r*SSia

There is no hope for russia.... people have to give up the idea that they can switch the guy at the top and it will become a normal country that doesn't want to invade and dominate its neighbors....

The population is essentially developmentally delayed... the mongols set them back hundreds of years and they still haven't caught up to the 21st century.

In other news, remember Alternatywy 4 and the old guy in a wheelchair people used to skip lines in stores?

russians are now renting disabled children to skip lines at gas stations...

x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/2075982847131722058

degenerate culture of losers

Novichok
11 Jul 2026  #677

a normal country that doesn't want to invade and dominate its neighbors....

Russia is defending its territory. Not a single Russian soldier is in Ukraine today.

Donbas and Crimea are part of Russia now, and there is nothing, your insults included, that can change this fact.

Both regions have separated from Ukraine ... just as the colonies did from the Crown.

jon357
11 Jul 2026  #678

a lot of psychological defectives too

Sadly so. There are some horrific things posted online out of sheer badness. Some bizarre people in on different parts of the political spectrum that support r*SSia.

Nevertheless, the bots are shocking too. We forget that r*SSia spends twice the amount on online propaganda each year as the whole budget of NHS England. Plus all the stuff they were funding via Orban.

invade and dominate its neighbors....

They've always known empire and think it's their right.

No rule,of law either since the law is a stick to beat people with there and real disputes are settled by violence.

Novichok
11 Jul 2026  #679

Some bizarre people in on different parts of the political spectrum that support r*SSia.

...because Russia did everything by the book, including the referenda.

BTW, did the UK ask its voters if they want the hordes of Pakis, for example?

Oh, I see, you are democratic, but not that democratic...I got it.

WhoYouCallinPaki
11 Jul 2026  #680

BTW, did the UK ask its voters if they want the hordes of Pakis, for..

I know second, third generation 'Pakis' that are more British than you will ever be American, sad lonely elderly Poland transplant in the US who spends his time railing against other immigrants because they aren't white/Christian.

I know people of Jamaican, Indian, and Bangladeshi origin in the UK who speak better English than that Ptak guy, and who have probably paid more in taxes, have better careers, and less dealings with law enforcement (I've heard some things about you US Polaks on here, not all of them good).

I know the first principle when it comes to Ryszard, Clown and Bird is 'do not engage' but sometimes you just have to.

jon357
11 Jul 2026  #681

russians are now renting disabled children to skip lines at gas stations...

No surprises. There's still fuel in Moscow and some in the parts of the r*SSian Federation that are r*SSia rather than their fake ass republics. Several 'shadow fleet' vessels destroyed too. Including ones bringing petrol that they'd already exported and are now frantically trying to get back.

This will continue and worsen until they get out of Ukraine,

cms neuf
12 Jul 2026  #682

Not a single North Nigerian soldier is in Ukraine today.

Except all the POWs - many of whom are begging not to be sent back to their North Nigerian shithole towns

Korvinus
12 Jul 2026  #683

I know second, third generation 'Pakis' that are more British

First of all, it's shocking how fast the United Kingdom has gone downhill.
On the other hand, the UK's post-war history is one of decline and perpetual crisis, bar a few minor exceptions.

jon357
12 Jul 2026  #684

many of whom are begging not to be sent back to their North Nigerian shithole

Yes. The difference between the well fed orc prisoners of war released by Ukraine and the emaciated Ukrainian prisoners released by r*SSia is shocking.

Who would want to go back to r*SSia anyway?

WhoYouCallinPaki
12 Jul 2026  #685

First of all, it's shocking how fast the United Kingdom has gone downhill.

You can't expect a Polish neo-Nazi to understand a modern, multicultural society. The mere concept is just very shocking and frightening to you, isn't it?

On the other hand, the UK's post-war history is one of decline and perpetual crisis,..

That's what happens when you bankrupt yourself and end up losing your empire after getting forced into fighting and winning two huge, stupid wars by the usual suspects in mainland Europe.

Korvinus
12 Jul 2026  #686

understand a modern, multicultural society

We need to look at successful multiracial demockrassies in history and then learn from their example so we don't repeat the mistakes of history.

Martin Van Creveld basically described the history of immigration as the history of war. They are one and the same thing. So we need to look at the societies that somehow succeeded mixing multicultural multiracial people together on one piece of land and then producing prosperity, security, stability and freedom from these wild cocktails.

We need to look at those examples.

We should really look at them.

Every single one of them in history that was successful. We have a lot to learn from them because somehow they succeeded despite it sounding like a recipe for total armageddon and the end of that civilization altogether forever.

Let's make our list. I'll go first ...

1. ...

...

...

I'll go first. Number one example ...

...

WhoYouCallinPaki
12 Jul 2026  #687

Number one example ...

What would you call the USA, idiot? And the Roman Empire?

I know the former is struggling a bit these days but it's still on top, just about. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Now tell me some staunchly monocultural/xenophobic 'civilisations' that have done so, so well. Maybe the poor old Japanese, with their currency currently in the toilet, an ageing population and rapidly disappearing relevance on the world stage? Or maybe Poland, which only owes its current (vastly overhyped) 'rise' to being the EU's biggest handout-taker?

jonice357
12 Jul 2026  #688

What would you call the USA?

On an irreversible decline.

And the Roman Empire?

Defunct.

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?

Gone

Austro-Hungarian Empire?

Dustbin.

WhoYouCallinPaki
12 Jul 2026  #689

On an irreversible decline.

Riiiight, o soothsayer. Let's see if your prophecy comes true in our lifetimes. Even if it does, a few hundred years is pretty good going for an 'empire'. Tell me a recent monocultural one that's lasted longer.

Defunct

And so is ancient Egypt, and so are the Babylonians, etc, etc, etc. What's your point? I direct you again to the question above.

Also, whose sockpuppet are you? And why are you?

Korvinus
12 Jul 2026  #690

USA, idiot? And the Roman Empire

You could also add USSR you idiot.
And, the USA is simply going the exact same way of the dozens of other failed multicult empires we know about in human history and end up a vast deserted plain ruled over by packs of feral dogs fighting over baby carcasses.


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