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American Political News in relation to Poland



Joker
14 Jul 2018  #421

I just wish he could be more politely! ;)

If he were polite like Obama, we would still be taken advantage of by every country in the world. Trumps methods pi$$es people off, but he gets good results. I dont think he means everything he says, its mostly to shock the opponent and then ease up to make a deal. I could be totally wrong as well.

Hey, what happened to ATP? I hope Admin gives you back your helmet.

Come on, Mods!! Avatars dont hurt!! haha

I will have to agree with you on that as Merkel has really destroyed the E.U.

The same thing would have happened to us if crooked Hillary would have won. We all would be sold down the river to the highest bidder.

She's gearing up for another shot at the Presidency, its going to get real interesting to say the least.

If she's the DNCs nominee again its doomsday for the Dumb Dems in 2020! LOL


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Bratwurst Boy
14 Jul 2018  #422

Hey, what happened to ATP? I hope Admin gives you back your helmet.

ATP got killed by an EU law and I'm wearing my helmet as I type! :)

Tacitus
14 Jul 2018  #423

Apologies,I didn't think the German army were allowed to fight

Fair enough. There were initially some exceptions but those have all been lifted as the war dragged on.

Germany is taking the PI$$.

Hardly. Germany has contributed and is still contributing to all Nato operations. No freeloading here, quite the contrary.

Neither is Germany "leeching off" other countries as stated by others. It is not like there is a set bill in Nato that has to be paid for. Each country is free to set its' defence budget according to its' strategic considerations. It made perfectly sense for Germany, to shrink its' budget after reunification when no obvious security threat existed anymore. Other countries in similar situations did the same. The USA might have fared better if ot had done the same, instead of waging this senseless Iraq war.

People like to compare Germany with the UK and France, but they forget that they are in utterly different circumstances. Aside from German apprehension towards all military things, the latter two countries are driven by entirely different strategic considerations. Both countries need their military to protect the last parts of their oversea empires, and as a way to project influence ( and justify their UN security seats). The days when Germany needed its' fleet to protect its' colonies on behest of the Kaiser are long over. In short, neither France nor the UK spent money because they wanted to be good Nato partners, or had to pay the price for Germany, but out of their own interest. It is not like other countries would have spent less money, if Germany had spent more. Germany and other European countries have been steadily increasing their defence budget since 2014. Is the USA now spending less under Trump than under Obama? The Nato has since 2014 formulated several requests what each member state should be able to contribute in case of a mayor crisis by 2024. Germany is according to several projections well on its' way to meet those obligations. Spending more money would do little good, since the ordering of new equipment takes time, and there are only so many soldiers to begin with.

Joker
14 Jul 2018  #424

ATP got killed by an EU law

Thats too bad, but welcome back!

I always liked having avatars, but no sense beating a dead horse:)

I tried both ways and crude is often more effective as it leaves nothing to the imagination

Being direct to the point is often better than dancing around the issues. Most snowflakes these days are too sensitive to have a normal conversation without some kind of group think tank support, that will ultimately resort in some sort of derogatory name calling.

Im waiting for the Dumb Dems to try and pass the "Dispose ICE" bill next week and watch over half of their voting base leave them. Do it! lol

Joker
15 Jul 2018  #425

Trump meets Putin tomorrow and has the Dems in a major meltdown...lol

It the Presidents responsibility to conduct foreign policy not the losing opposition, and not their place to try and interfere, like they tried on Friday. Sad!

They didn't want Trump to talk to NK either and now hes not supposed to talk to Putin? They are only afraid of Trump being successful!

Just like Barak Hussien Obama stated " Elections have Consequences" I guess the libtards didn't hear this message?

Rich Mazur
16 Jul 2018  #426

Trump meets Putin tomorrow and has the Dems in a major meltdown...

I am so totally shocked that they didn't go judge shopping hoping to find one who would immediately declare his planned meeting with Putin to be unconstitutional, racist, xenophobic, and anti-muslim. And, since Hillary wasn't invited, also sexist.

Joker
16 Jul 2018  #427

What the Dems are afraid of is: Success!

The last thing in the world they want is for Trump to succeed with anything. They were adamantly against the meeting with North Korea as well. It might be a good thing for some diplomacy with Russia.

Its very upsetting and treasonous how the radical Dems would rather see us go to war than see Trump succeed. Im glad he just bulldozes past these snowflakes.

since Hillary wasn't invited, also sexist.

I dont think she qualifies as a woman anymore! lol

Dirk diggler
16 Jul 2018  #428

What the Dems are afraid of is

They fear success because liberals treat catastrophic failures as 'learning experiences' and 'nothing to be ashamed of' and are the type of people who want to give out competition trophies..

The loud ass annoying types that waste their time making a stupid balloon? I'd say a 9-5 for the urban democratic voters and Antifa types.... but the people they're voting for are sscared of the church, the silent conservative majority, the beer chuggin' rednecks with confederate flags on their pickups, the quiet office worker who despises all this bullsh1t about 70 genders and all the migrants flooding into the country and all the PC bullsh1t), the housewife who doesn't want her kids to grow up tio be a bunch of pencil neck soy boy beta cucks, law and order (they even want to abolish ICE), and anything that resembles patriotism, national identity (if it's white anyway... any nationalism that is not white European they love though), guns - oh boy are they scared of guns rofl, people like Trump, Farage, etc who speak the truth that people have been waiting their whole lives for a politician to finally say - and follow through with most of what he says... and there's so much more....

BUT most of all.... the dems are scared that you might offend them... they're also scared of REALITY.. that is why they've come up with such nonsense as safe spaces, microaggressions, trigger warnings, etc.... I'm definitely not sending my kids to any freakin school with that kind of crap.... they are totally naïve and are against any sort of statistics, facts or other evidence that demolishes their left wing views and hurts their feelings...

I dont think she qualifies as a woman anymore!

No wonder Bill cheated on her... She is just an ugly person - in and out. The epitome of the swamp - two timing hypocrites who support beliefs on when they're popular. Clinton has flip flopped on so many things I don't think you can even count them all - gay marriage, immigration, black people (super predators), wars, just any divisive hot potato topic she's flip flopped on... or lied.... how do you know when crooked hillary is lying? when her mouth is open

I still don't know how she isn't in jail - much less even just charged/indicted... people get life sentences for a fraction of the **** the public KNOWS that she did

Rich Mazur
16 Jul 2018  #429

Not long ago, Americans used to admire the FBI. Today... What a joke.

Dirk diggler
16 Jul 2018  #430

I never respected American leo's. Bunch of yellow cowards who only act tough and bully people when they're unarmed. But the second they have to deal with real **** whether it's getting out of the car solo in the hoodo at night or running into stoneman when all those kids were geting shot. But no even with all their pistols shotguns vests they were still too pussy to go in and confront the shooter. Had he been unarmed they'd be acting real tough

Not all cops are like that but the majority are. They even freaken shoot little playful terrier puppies and justify it saying they were 'scared' and 'feared for their lives'

Crow
16 Jul 2018  #431

You know what this eyes of Putin telling to Trump? They telling: ,,Correct what western Europe and their satellites done in Russia`s zone of influence or nukes are coming.``

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Its not easy to Trump. Some others delivered hard choices on USA. Now, Trump pretend to be little bit crazy, tries to found words to tell to western European magnates that they must take few smokes...

Joker
17 Jul 2018  #432

I'd say a 9-5 for the urban democratic voters and Antifa types.

Yep, half of them didn't have a clue or just the usual cast of leftist idiots that doesnt care about how much they shame their country.

The loud ass annoying types that waste their time making a stupid balloon?

I guess, they had time off work to construct this childish balloon? haha!

All these ppl that keep crying get over it already! If you only were to put this much energy into doing good for the country as you do crying and being a sore loser this country really would be great again!

Dirk diggler
17 Jul 2018  #433

Indeed. Unfortunately for the leftists demanding that a customs and immigration force be dismantled and walking up the highway because some black kid with a pistol in his waistband was shot are considered constructive uses of time. In all reality he was probably pulling his pants up because the brothas wear them halfway down their ass and it's impossible to effectively run away from a cop while your pants are falling off. And thanks to that a bunch of lefties marched on the highways clogging up traffic for people just trying to get from a to b.

I guess if I had taxpayers paying for my food, rent, cell phone, utilities, health insurance, education, even transportation basically everything a person in a 1st world country would want, rather than simply need, id consider that an effective use of my time too. Ah it must be nice to be a Democrat without a care in the world about making ends meet.

Rich Mazur
17 Jul 2018  #434

I guess, they had time off work to construct this childish balloon? haha!

Mueller should indict them for interfering with the 2020 US presidential elections. Why else would they do all that?

Joker
17 Jul 2018  #435

Unfortunately for the leftists demanding that a customs and immigration force be dismantled

Did you notice how they walked back that election killing proposition? They Dems reversed bringing it to the house floor, only fools would ascertain something like this.

Abolish ICE? These libs might as well be smoking crack at this point, Im done listening to this lunacy.

Its always the same nutty Dem politicians that claim to represent our views, but I haven't met one person that wants ICE abolished or open borders.

Mueller should indict them for interfering with the 2020 US presidential elections

I dont want him spending another 22 million of our tax dollars for Hillary

Rich Mazur
17 Jul 2018  #436

US troops in Poland sounds so cool. The problem is that the US today is not the US from WW2. Then, there was only one rule of engagement: kill them all - civilians included. Today, the US army is a mix of police, social workers, gays and trans - few capable of carrying an 80 pound bag - with the rules so idiotic that it takes your breath away. This is why with all that fire power, an impotent US is unable to close the deal against the most primitive of opponents like Taliban, a repeat of Vietnam where they got beat by peasants and that picture of a naked Vietnamese girl.

During WW2, nobody was talking about the enemy's hearts and minds. In fact, civilians were the primary target, all the denials notwithstanding. The Iraq war should have been a three-month affair with Baghdad flat and Hussein still in power, cleaning up. Plus a warning not to f*** with us. Instead, the US army was there to be loved and to build schools, roads and hospitals. The result: ISIS, barely friendly Iraq, and Iran in charge. Not counting the money and the body bags. That is how the US conducts wars today.

The prospect that the US will go to blows with Russia over Poland is beyond ridiculous. Even more ridiculous - that Russia will invade Poland.

cms neuf
17 Jul 2018  #437

The thought that Russia would invade Poland is far from ridiculous - it has invaded its neigbours in Eastern Europe in 1920, 1939, 1940, 1956, 1968, de facto in 1981, and 2014. So just the 7 times in the last century.

Rich Mazur
17 Jul 2018  #438

That's a deflection. I am talking Russia invading Poland. The US, UK and Poland have invaded, too. So what?

cms neuf
17 Jul 2018  #439

No its not a deflection - It is showing what has happened. All Poliah citizens wxpext the govt to guard against that happening again.

Rich Mazur
17 Jul 2018  #440

If the probability that Russia might attack Poland is higher than one percent, the NATO countries should starve Russia economically by imposing a full embargo on all trade. In fact, the exact opposite is happening with the EU making all kinds of deals with them, including that gas pipeline.

It defies common sense to fear a country and do business with them at the same time.

cms neuf
17 Jul 2018  #441

No it does not - in normal countries then business is done by private companies or individuals and they care more about putting food on the table instead of geopolitics.

Of course it is different in Russia where business is often seen as an extension of the state and the corrupt govt.

Dirk diggler
17 Jul 2018  #442

Incorrect. Most countries including basically all European nations have government/state owned businesses - namely utilities media and banking.. In many cases especially for utilities its for economies of scale. In that sense Russia is no different than Germany or UK or Poland or Italy

Rich Mazur
17 Jul 2018  #443

Speaking of Russia...I really would like to know what you think about Trump after Helsinki.

Dirk diggler
17 Jul 2018  #444

Honestly I haven't even really read much about it and the only thing that I've watched regarding this was a short interview with hannity and Trump. My opinion is still the same though - there's no candidate that would've been better than Trump. And as long as the stock market keeps going the way it is idc what Trump and putin are doing

johnny reb
18 Jul 2018  #445

And as long as the stock market keeps going the way it is idc

Ditto's - I bought 500 shares of CYBR the first week of January for $40 and change and today it is at almost $70.
More than enough to pay for my winter in some little fishing village on the ocean where it is warm with sunshine.
Thank you Donald.
TRUMP 2020 !

Bratwurst Boy
18 Jul 2018  #446

I wonder when MAGA started to mean licking Putin's boots.

Helsinki was so embarassing to watch for every Westerner! But then it got worse...a "slip of tongue" that brown nosing now was...*face palm*

Dirk diggler
18 Jul 2018  #447

@johnny reb

It's an amazing time. I mean its to the point almost where you could pick a stock at random and you'll make money. I've been spending more time day trading than construction and sales consulting and even though I'm not putting up huge sums and rarely use leverage im still making more.

I can sure get use to showing up for work in a bathrobe and boxers haha

Well putin is king of the alphas so Trump naturally wants to have a good relationship. It's only the butthurt swamp and its voters who don't want us to have a cordial relationship with Russia.

Maybe Trump will give putin another wink wink and pull the us out of NATO or kick out the countries not pulling their weight. Europe benefits a hell of a lot from NATO than the us does that's for sure. Quite frankly I'm sick of my taxes going to support countries who beg for our defense yet buy their gas from adversaries while not committing to the 2%

johnny reb
18 Jul 2018  #448

I mean its to the point almost where you could pick a stock at random and you'll make money.

Well beware because when it crashes this time it's gonna be bad, very bad as the market could take a 50% hit or more.
Stay prepared for it.
This time when the tide goes out we will see who has been swimming naked.
There is a whole lot of debt out there that is going to ruin this whole thing for us who live within our means.
This next recession might just be bad enough to start a civil war and that is no joke.
The people who have been living on their bad credit and beyond their means will lose everything they have and it ain't gonna be a pretty picture.

Cash will become King again which makes the Debtors & Welfare Queens very jealous claiming people who have sacrificed, save and lived within their means just horrible greedy people.

The suicide rate will be horrendous by these crop failures who have been a burden on our society for to long now.

TheOther
18 Jul 2018  #449

I'm sick of my taxes going to support countries who beg for our defense

Nobody in western Europe begs for our defense. It's a strategic decision of the US to maintain bases on the continent which oftentimes have absolutely nothing to do with NATO.

...while not committing to the 2%

The 2 percent standard is just a recommendation, not a legally binding requirement. It was decided that NATO members move towards that goal by 2024. Still six years away.

johnny reb
18 Jul 2018  #450

Did you miss the Summit last week where your President bumped that up to 4%.


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