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Brexit 2019 and Poland



mafketis
14 Nov 2019  #2341

Because a lot of the time the directives make more sense than what went before.

The problem is not when technocracy works okay, the problem is when it doesn't and the populace has no way of changing technocratic installed solutions that no longer (or never) worked.

jon357
14 Nov 2019  #2342

The crisis really does not exist

It doesn't.

mafketis
14 Nov 2019  #2343

It's in a potential mode since Erdogan keeps threatening to send millions if the EU doesn't keep supporting him financially.... how the EU got in the position of being depend on a tyrant's good will does not speak well for the organization.

Vesko Vukovic
14 Nov 2019  #2344

Blast those damn Irish journalists!

independent.ie/irish-news/courts/student-allegedly-caught-masturbating-in-public-facing-trial-37116353.html

irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/cork-bus-driver-threatened-rape-20789870

Ireland has been so "culturally enriched".

It doesn't.

Please try to explain this to the female bus driver mentioned in the text above, following her ordeal.

jon357
14 Nov 2019  #2345

following

As if crime has suddenly appeared...

Atch
14 Nov 2019  #2346

Ireland has been so "culturally enriched".

Well, as I happen to have lived there, which you haven't.......incidents such as those you mention are rare. Immigration is tightly controlled in Ireland,most immigrants are skilled workers and we have more than enough home-grown rapists, murderers etc. who do a very efficient job of terrorizing people. You are far, far more likely to be assaulted/threatened etc by an Irish man or woman (there are some unbelievably aggressive women in the lower echelons of Irish society, the type who'd break a bottle and threaten to slash a man's throat with it, the "who do you think you're lookin' at you bleedin' gobshite' variety).

Vesko Vukovic
14 Nov 2019  #2347

Immigration is tightly controlled in Ireland,most immigrants are skilled workers

irishexaminer.com/ireland/ireland-tops-eu-list-for-granting-citizenship-340233.html

Ireland has one of the highest rates among EU countries of awarding citizenship to Nigerians, Indians, Filipinos, and Pakistanis.

Nigerians are the single biggest group to be awarded Irish citizenship, accounting for almost 24%of the total.

Not very selective indeed.

But who is doing this to Ireland, who is responsible for bringing in these savages (third world migrants) to the Emerald island in droves?

The answer is: Allan Shatter who surprise, surprise is a member of the "chosen tribe" - a Jew.

muintirnaheireann.org/allan-shatters-legacy/

Since taking office in early 2011, after his Fine Gael party ousted the ruling Fianna Fail amid Ireland's continuing economic woes, Shatter has busied himself with increasing the numbers of Africans and Asians resident in Ireland. Immigration to Ireland from outside Europe during 2011 was twice that of the previous year. Last year, the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service granted visas to 91 percent of the 88,000 non-Europeans who applied for them. Shatter is aggressively promoting new measures to further increase non-European immigration.

Crnogorac3
14 Nov 2019  #2348

This is truly a tragedy what is happening to the Irish, I am interested to know what are Irish nationalist organizations such as Sinn Fein doing about this?

Vesko Vukovic
14 Nov 2019  #2349

Sinn Fein

Well, despite calling themselves Irish nationalists Sinn Féin is an anti-racist party on the left, just like the IRA is as an organization, so I guess they won't be doing much to stop the invasion of Ireland by these third world orcs...

Atch
14 Nov 2019  #2350

despite calling themselves Irish nationalists

In Ireland, the term nationalist refers to those who wish to see Ireland re-united and nothing more than that.

As to your stats, here are the correct figures for citizenship awards for 2019 (as recorded in April of this year at the 2019 citizenship award ceremony):

The top five nationalities were Poland (406), UK (309), Romania (218), India (186) and Nigeria (99).

what is happening to the Irish

youtube.com/watch?v=OvrVxB0Dp-0

Dougpol1
15 Nov 2019  #2351

Been following the currency market....which says that Johnson is going to win.
I like his radio persona a lot. When you don't have to look at his face and be reminded of what an inveterate liar he is, Johnson does sound very pleasant and plausible.

It's a pity about his annoying agenda though, and I could never vote for him.

Atch
15 Nov 2019  #2352

Nigerians are the single biggest group to be awarded Irish citizenship

Actually it's Poles, far, far bigger number of Poles.

irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.4040430!/image/image.png_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.png

Shatter is aggressively promoting new measures to further increase non-European immigration.

Alan Shatter resigned five years ago.

Dougpol1
15 Nov 2019  #2353

Don't indulge the mad posters Atch. They are anti-EU because their nationalist regimes will never be given a seat at the table, and so love to confabulate from without.

As the British baying mob will so do under Johnson.

mafketis
15 Nov 2019  #2354

A pretty good video (by an Irish guy so Atch will listen!) on the rise of the Precariat. This is the real cause of European social malaise and not fears of unmotivated nationalism and xenophobia.

The best point (slid over and not examined, but mentioned) is that the new European precariat is not a new social class, it's the result of the systematic rollback of hard won worker protections gained in the 20th century. That the EU is presiding over and facilitating this massive loss of worker rights should concern people.

youtube.com/watch?v=pT4TlPVHgUk&t=

Dougpol1
15 Nov 2019  #2355

Maf
People don't need the gig economy explained to them. It is a terrible state of affairs for many people. It might work to the advantage of others. And in the UK, Labour are firmly set against the gig economy, and would rail it back. The Tories with their 'shareholder value as paramount' lack of ethics actively promote it.

And the EU have nought to do with the decisions of an independent country, even though the right wing blather on about "give us our country back" and "lack of sovereignty" and so on. For instance, in Barcelona, Uber has been banned - much to the irritation of my daughter, who works hard but is poorly paid herself and who appreciated the choice.

It's a dilemma, and precarious employment is clearly here to stay, as it's the only work a lot of people can get, whether we personally like the concept or not. It has zero to do with Brexit though - but please do explain why you think it is.

cms neuf
15 Nov 2019  #2356

How is the EU "presiding" over that ? Labor law is largely the preserve of national govts and in many EU countries labour is extremely regulated - often over regulated.

Many of those changes come from technology - you can ignore that and be uncompetitive or you can try and mitigate that as much as possible and ensure that the companies that generate the precariat have to follow the same rules as everyone else (and that basically is what is happening to Amazon, Uber etc as they try to grow in Europe they are being told they can not bend rules).

mafketis
15 Nov 2019  #2357

How is the EU "presiding" over that ? L

Here is some of it...

investigate-europe.eu/precarious-work-europes-new-reserve-army/

" the deregulation of labour law became the wonder weapon of choice for the EU Commission "

" Barroso's Economics Commissioner, the Finn Oli Rehn, called on crisis-hit countries to pursue "flexible wage determination and offer more incentives for the unemployed to find work.""

there's more there...

cms neuf
15 Nov 2019  #2358

No there is not - every example in that piece relates to national actions, not EU actions; with two exceptions.

Something in Romania - incorrect as in my considerable experience of the country the labor laws are set locally.

Greece - as a precondition for them maintaining the Euro.

The EU has no mandate to implement labor laws in member states - there are things like the working time directive, health and safety laws etc but they favor the employee not the employer.

In any case it's not a proper newspaper - maybe post something from say the FT, Economist, Bloomberg which would surely be enthusiastically praising these EU employee bashing exercises if they really were happening.

mafketis
15 Nov 2019  #2359

In any case it's not a proper newspaper

""A version of this article was originally published in German by Berlin daily Tagesspiegel"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Tagesspiegel

The site involved cooperation from a number of 'proper' news sources as you can see by scrolling down here:

investigate-europe.eu/publications/europes-precariat/?portfolioCats=19

Tacitus
15 Nov 2019  #2360

The EU has no mandate to implement labor laws in member states

Indeed, which is a bad thing as evidenced by e.g. Italy and Greece. In the case of Greece, even with a government fully dependent on help from the EU, successive Greek governments still dragged their feet on the demanded reforms.

As a general rule, I would always be suspicious of articles that paint an overwhelmingly negative picture of e.g. Schröders' Agenda 2010 as the article does. This agenda not only transformed Germany from the sick man of Europe to Europe's powerhouse, it also drastically reduced unemployment from 5 million to now 2 million, and also saved our welfare state (at least for the time being).

cms neuf
15 Nov 2019  #2361

Oil well apart from that show me another proper newspaper ;)))

Dougpol1
19 Nov 2019  #2362

The first TV leadership debate was a narrow win for Corbyn. Interesting.

Miloslaw
19 Nov 2019  #2363

narrow win for Corbyn

Not according to the poll taken.
Boris 51% Jeremy 49%.
I watched it.
It was crap.
Boris edged it and played it natural.
Jeremy used cues and advice during the ad break.

jon357
20 Nov 2019  #2364

The first TV leadership debate was a narrow win for Corbyn. Interesting.

Yes, if you look at the figures on the specific issues he did win. The 51/49 thing factors in presentation, polish etc, something the old-Etonian ought to have done better in than he actually did. JC certainly came across better than Johnson who as PM should have done far better than he did.

A shame nobody asked him how many children he has (which is as much as the UK media dare hint at the moment on a specific issue for legal reasons).

Crow
20 Nov 2019  #2365

The first TV leadership debate was a narrow win for Corbyn. Interesting.

You are surprised? Dobri man Corbyn is pro-Serbian. Everything is clear.

Boris edged it and played it natural.

Boris is also pro-Serbian. Very wise man.

Miloslaw
20 Nov 2019  #2366

Yes, Corbyn calls terrorists his friends, Hamas, Hezbollah, IRA ,Serbs............

Crow
20 Nov 2019  #2367

And what about Boris? Boris also love Serbs.

Miloslaw
20 Nov 2019  #2368

I wouldn't be too sure about that........... he loves Kosovans too.....

balkaninsight.com/2019/07/26/uks-shrinking-role-in-balkans-will-vanish-under-johnson/

Ziemowit
20 Nov 2019  #2369

And he certainly loves Denisovans..Boris loves everyone, that's for sure.

Crow
20 Nov 2019  #2370

People, its even logical that somebody who have name Boris love Serbs. Who knows who is Boris`s father. Serbian sperm flow abundantly among British aristocracy.


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