Coronavirus in Poland

I don't know lenka - lots of parents can't bear any more of this and don't want another school year interrupted - we already had the strikes and the virus.

I can't wait for Sep 1st !

Exactly! That's the whole model - get citizens protesting against the government providing services (as an excuse to shut them down).

It's the same with anti-police riots in the US - you have thousands of people demand that the state stop providing policing (and prisons) two areas governments are itching to leave anyway.

I think in the US it'll be public universities that will be the first to go (many are committed to remote learning throughout the entire academic year - at full tuition rates of course). Of course students don't want that and enrollments are down...

Also, if they record lectures on university software then the university owns the lectures and can dispense with the lecturers entirely....

Re-infections of cured people now also in Europe detected...Holland and Belgium have the first two cases now officially documented.

reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-netherlands-reinfe/dutch-belgian-patients-re-infected-with-coronavirus-nos-report-idUSKBN25L0LF

*digs himself in*

There's one born every minute....

Better safe than sorry! :)

I'm not saying that the whole brands and whole production branches have to move back. Just crucial parts of supply chains within the key indistries would be enough. Nobody is going to bring back the production of t-shirts or plastic toys back to Europe...

The whole process has started earlier on - for example, Chinese companies are banned from building a 5G network in the UK (and the US) - but this 'new' situation will give it more fuel.

uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-china/trump-administration-pushing-to-rip-global-supply-chains-from-china-officials-idUKKBN22G0BZ

nytimes.com/2020/03/11/business/economy/coronavirus-china-trump-drugs.html


I meant classic private education. The remote education cannot match the quality of a regular schooling, master and apprentice relationship, kids socializing witch each other, comparing their strengths and weaknesses etc.

Today's numbers for Poland as the weekend slump ends and the midweek jump begins....

Fatalities (daily total) 17, age range 46-96, average age 72

Hospitalizations (running total) down 40 to 2167

Respirators in use, down 6 to 76

Cured (daily total) 336 bit less than half the number of discovered cases...

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 19 times more cured cases than fatalities.

For Spike:

twitter.com/comabyc/status/1298180653901635584/photo/1

Also the policies in Australia/New Zealand have been very draconian.... and should be a cause of concern for anyone interested in individual liberties.... (alternately if you think governments can get hugely friendly with the CCP without starting to act like the CCP then.... you dumb, ya big dummy)

All the figures you give here,I read it here at around 12/1 pm your time in Poland.
epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/poland

For all those half-wits who believe in "deadly pandemic" ex minister for health Lukasz Szumowski vel "forget about summer holidays during pandemic" sends his best wishes from Canary Islands.

"Stay home, keep social distance, don't visit your grandma and put a muzzle on your mug". There's no cure for fools...

se.pl/wiadomosci/polityka/polska-w-epidemii-szumowski-na-rajskiej-wyspie-aa-Tgkb-22v6-WprF.html

He's not 'breaking news'. He just has a routine where he obviously has time to post here in the evenings, so he puts the daily figures here for the record. It doesn't matter what time of day he does it.


Who vote PIS. That's what your post really demonstrates - what a joke the world of Polish politics and particularly the present government is. Utterly incompetent and untrustworthy Minister for Health, a President who's neither use nor ornament, the list goes on. In Ireland they'd be referred to as 'a shower of sleeveens and gombeen men'.

All nice and well @Atch but have you visited your grandma/aging mother on Easter and did you wear a dust mask on your pretty face during "pandemic"? :-)

Today's numbers for Poland

Fatalities (daily total) 17, age range 50-91, average age 77

Hospitalizations (running total) up 3 to 2170

Ventilators in use, up 3 to 79

Cured (daily total) 615 which is 84% the number of discovered cases...

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 36 times more cured cases than fatalities.

Today's numbers for Poland

Fatalities (daily total) 16, age range 49-95, average age 75

Hospitalizations (running total) up 15 to 2185

Ventilators in use, up 3 to 82

Cured (daily total) 698 which is 78% the number of discovered cases...

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 43 times more cured cases than fatalities.

Today's numbers for Poland

Fatalities (daily total) 9, age range 45-86, average age 73

Hospitalizations (running total) +36 = 2221

Ventilators in use, +7 = 89

Cured (daily total) 688 which is 86% the number of discovered cases...

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 76 times more cured cases than fatalities.

More people have died from the virus in the E.U. then in all of the United States and the United States numbers have been padded horribly by blaming old age, (natural causes), to traffic deaths if the poor soul at room temperature tested positive for the virus.

That's not true - there are 180k deaths in the US and 140k in the EU.

In any case the EU has a much larger population

So the U.S.A.'s 180k divided into 330 million population equals .18.%
The E.U. has 140k divided into 447 million population which equals .32%
Would it be fair to say that the European Union has had 30% more deaths proportionately than the United States ?

No wonder you hate teachers as obviously yours sucked.
Forget math, use logic. More deaths in smaller population has lower percentage than less deaths in bigger population?

No it wouldn't be fair. It would be a math error

180k/330k is 0,54, not 0.18.

So US deaths per million are 74 percent higher.

Don't blame my teachers, I have cheeto dust stuck in my calculator pad.


Another math error. lol
You like cheeto's too cms ?

No I hate that orange stuff around my mouth !

lolI see someone has been watching cheetos ad
youtube.com/watch?v=XSMZhCCEFuA

First it is 180,000 thousand (18k) deaths in a population of 330 million, not 330 thousand.
Next you divided 330 mil into 180k where as I divided 180k into 330 mil. as I posted.


I used both but the word "proportionately" must have confused you.

OMG

Johnny

first there are more deaths in the US absolutely - in terms of numbers of body bags. 180k v 140k.
Second there are proportionally 74 percent more deaths in the USA than in the EU

Deaths per million in the US. 545
deaths per million in the EU 314

545/314 = 1.735. Take off the one and convert it to.a percentage.

In next weeks episode - are gun deaths higher in the US than in Poland ?

To err is human, to defend one's mistake after it's been pointed out is stupid. Especially in math.

Maybe we should remove some zeros to paint the picture for you?

One person has 18 gold coins in a total of 33, other has 14 gold coins in 44. Do you still think the one with 18 has proportionally less gold?

Say that in Latin. That will show you are a real erudite. Errare humanum est sed in errare perseverare diabolicum.


That one has been too difficult for me. What's the trick in it

I wish. Sadly even though I love Latin I never had the motivation to learn it properly


One it's in the area of his interest it seems and two- by making numbers smaller it should make it easier to picture them and thanks to that understand.

@Cargo pants

Yeah? How about this

youtube.com/watch?v=KkQydoiDY28&ab_channel=jdj

O.k., I was wrong and misspoke.
(This is do to multi tasking on the net and old age)
What I was trying to say was that proportionally the U.S has had less deaths than the E.U. has for those who have tested positive.

The U.S.A. has had 6 million confirmed cases with 184,000 deaths.
The E.U. has had 2 million confirmed cases with 181,000 deaths.
And no one in the U.S.A. went without a ventilator.

ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

So basically, chances are high that the number of deaths in the USA might be significantly higher than reported. In any case a truly appalling record for the USA, considering that the EU not only consists of rich countries like France and Belgium, but also very poor ones like Rumania and Greece.