Coronavirus in Poland

Weinstein and Harris are both brilliant (though Harris's monotone affect grates on me in extended listening).

I never said lockdowns are a conspiracy as such. I do think that they are an incredibly stupid and ineffective policy (beyond maybe two weeks or so once and once only) and they are ineffective against a respiratory virus that spreads most readily indoors (keeping people indoors to stop a virus that spreads indoors - what's wrong with that picture?).

They also result in diminishing returns over time which are obvious to anyone paying attention, which raises the question of why so many politicians are completely irrationally devoted to them (including incipient Chinese colonies Australia and NZ).

It's also been obvious for years that western governments have been backing out of their traditional mandate to provide education, healthcare and protection to the citizenry. There are many books by distinguished scholars on this topic start with Bobbit (Tony Blair was an enthusiast) and Bauman.

I never said vaccines are a conspiracy as such. I think anyone is right to be concerned about medicines developed in such a hurry with so little testing. I do think they provide some protection but again they're not really vaccines as such.

I do think that governments (following the new Chinese political paradigm they've accepted) don't care about the medicines as such but have been looking for a reason/method to ramp up surveillance and businesses want more surveillance as well (there's a whole book about that - Surveillance Capitalism)

All that said, I have no problem with any individuals either taking them or not taking them after they weigh up the risk and benefits within their own circumstances (roughly the younger and healthier a person the less reason there is for them to get the shots. And I think any protection they offer is relatively short... Biden has publicly said the booster program has been in the works for months (which means they've realized the temporary nature of the protection they offer for months).

And I think that a person's 'vaccination' status should be private (like flu vaccinations). If a person wants to volunteer their status fine, if they don't... fine.

Friday, day 16 (or 6*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.55 of 38,847 tests

hospitalization: + 6 t0 359

intensive care: -5 to41

deaths: 4 (1 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: 3 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) +98 155,085 !!!

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days ago saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Well look what just surfaced.
Back on August 22, 2005 under the heading, "Get ready for this", by Dr. Fauci, Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.
These inhibitor effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus.
(It's no wonder President Trump took this drug when he caught the virus and had it much worse than reported. It most likely saved his life.)

This means of course that Dr. Fauci has know for 15 years that chloroquine and HCQ will not only treat but prevent future cases.
So with these drugs being so cheap to produce why are they not being used instead of an experimental vaccine ?
These drugs function as both a cure and vaccine.
I think we are being hoodwinked by our governments with this experimental vaccine push.

getting slightly rambunctious in oz. few coppers got smashed. Luckily in the state I am in, no lockdowns and relaxed mask rules as we went hard and early with a short lockdown to achieve zero covid.. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9914143/Melbourne-anti-lockdown-rally-Thousands-flood-CBD-218-arrested-six-police-hospitalised.html


That era of austerity and 'liberalism' is over and we are back to keynes and big gov spending. Poland was the (positive) canary in the coalmine.

Friday, day 17 (or 7*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.50 of 44,492 tests

hospitalization: no change = 359

intensive care: -1 to40

deaths: 1 (no comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: -1 = 2

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) +94 155,179 !!!

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days ago saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Good job mate.
Sadly the U.S. has a demented president that has an open border policy allowing thousands of illegal positive Covid people every day to come in and be turned loose to unknown parts of the country infecting everyone on their way.

Doesn't matter if the rest of the countries legal citizens are vaccinated and go into a lock down or not.
Yes we are all missing Trump big time.

85% of all hospital patients with covid are migrants as well.

Biden is a traitor to America


Illinois sucks as well, but I stopped wearing masks and if a store wont let me in. I shop elsewhere.

Day 18 (or 8*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.55 of 33,497 tests

hospitalization: no change -19 = 340 (what? minus 19? apparently so...)

intensive care: -4 to 36

deaths: 0

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: +1 = 3

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 150,000 (my source hasn't been updated yet...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days ago saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

@johnny reb
Clearly you haven't been reading the real news where migrants are getting turned away. Europeans cant even get into USA without a visa, I know because some friends tried and didnt make it out of the airport.

@Joker
Your comments sir fir your name. The patients in the hospital as unvaccinated, not undocumented. Get a grip on yourself.

Same things in Poland. Unvaccinated account for almost all infections and hospitalizations. Simple fact.

The simple fact is that the your yankee wonder medicine pfizer shot is ****. as the stats in Israel show. where 60 percent vaxed are in intensive care. out of 85 percent population vaxxed. sure thats good but the mrna vaccines lose about 8-12 percent potency a month as opposed to the astrazeneca whitch is aobut 2-4 percent. (within statistical error) basically the astra viral vector vaccine elicits a lot more t-cell memory immunity, which lasts for years. As opposed to a big burst of antibodies which fade. That'ts the one i'm getting, or sputnik if needed, regardless of the badpress which was due to yank big pharma ganging up on oxford for daring to sell it at cost price and non profit. of course thats gonna involve a conspiracy beatdown. . beuty of astra the longer u wait between 1st and 2nd shots the stronger the antibody response is. the inventors of astra said it gives supposedly years of immunity as opposed to ceo of pfizer who says yearly boosters are needed. you lucked out son.

and if we compare the recent hospitalisation and deathrates of england and israel ,the hypotheses proves itself. there's a gradient, that has been proved of hospitalisation and death, and the x months since someone has had their mrna shot in israel..

FYI Israel was the Pfizer test laboratory. Now the population has turned against it, as the gov is saying boosters boosters boosters...

@amiga500
And thats Israel, not Poland. And personally I dont gaf about Israel.

The undocumented should be jabbed at the border with the 5.56 vaccine. Then they would not be taking hospital beds from the documented like me.
Joker is right. That pos Biden lets them by the thousands but not tourists from Canada. That border is closed.

Day 19 (or 9*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.48 of 22,427 tests

hospitalization: no change +16 = 356

intensive care: +2 to 38

deaths: 0

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: -1 = 2

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 155,000....

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days ago saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Your dose of corona news for today. No need to turn on the tv

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I am thinking that the Covid Card may be the 'Mark of the Beast'.
You won't be able to travel without one, go to a hospital without one, go to a grocery store without one, go to school without one, collect any Government benefits like Medicare or Social Security without one...........Satan will have complete control of the world and the people in it.

Is it possible.....? :-)

Day 20 (or 10*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.51 of 45,447 tests

hospitalization: no change +29 = 385

intensive care: +6 to 44

deaths: 8 (4 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: 2 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 155,000....

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days ago saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Fair play tucker news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/fox-news-host-tucker-carlson-slams-australias-lockdown-lunacy/news-story/f18ec1d56c47c552906e2666ececb811 we dont usually take covid criticism from yanks well but sir tuck gets an exeption

It is said that Christians will be persecuted, churches closed by force...

Whatever it is I'm not getting any of it - no mask, no vaxx, no stupid passport or QR code or any of that nonsense. If I'm forced to take a covid test every 48 hours because of restrictions that's what I'll do. And I guarantee you I won't be paying the bills for it either.

A week from now, there will be another HOA meeting at the local library. Masks required. If you don't see me post after Aug 31, that's because I was arrested and sentenced to life-no-parole for refusing to wear one.

Day 21 (or 11*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.58 of 40,353 tests

hospitalization: no change -11 = 374

intensive care: +2 to 46

deaths: 5 (4 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: up one to 3

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 155,000....

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days ago saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Last Monday Andrusiewicz said Poland was determined to introduce some "epidemic curbs" to prevent the spread of the fourth COVID wave, and would do so especially in the regions with very low vaccination rates.

It's gonna be tuff to lock down only certain parts of Poland and not others especially when some of the people that have had their vaccines be forced into a lock down because their neighbor refused to get their vaccine.

Poland expects to suffer 300 COVID cases daily in September and will likely witness the peak of the fourth wave of COVID in October, about the same time the flu season vaccinations start. :-/

How did my Polish babcia ever live to be 98 years old without these vaccines ?

They tried the same stupidity here in Michigan.
Detroit in the southern part of the State had one of the highest infection rates in the country and one of the lowest vaccination rates in the State so they locked them down.

Up here in Northern Michigan where the vaccination rate sports over a 70%, the infection rate was very low and almost extinct so the restaurants, casino's, hotels and recreation areas were all open.

What do you think happened to all the people in Detroit that were locked down in their homes ?
You guess it, they all came to Northern Michigan to party and vacation and why wouldn't they with all that stimulus money to spend.

(The stimulus money meant to be used to pay their rent)
When they came they brought the virus with them and our infection rates sky rocketed putting us into a lock down too.
Has Poland given that any thought before they only lock down certain non economic areas ?

@johnny reb
"Has Poland given that any thought before they only lock down certain non economic areas ?"

Please read what you wrote and try not to fall over with laughter.

RFK Jr. wrote a book about our Lord and Saviour Fauci. Should be a cracking read childrenshealthdefense.salsalabs.org/rfk-therealanthonyfauci?wvpId=c8571680-5ab3-4162-9566-23d64bbd6347

- Delayed second dose and third doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine lead to heightened immune response to SARS-CoV-2- ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-28-delayed-second-dose-and-third-doses-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-lead-heightened

Can foreign tourists be vaccinated in Polish pharmacies?

True, the tier system the UK used was not particularly effective and there ended up being a full national lockdown. However doing that would also be difficult, especially in areas with high vaccination rates. Tbh although there will probably some extra restrictions in areas with low vaccine rates I can't see any sort of lockdown being effective.

Now that there are more Poles with a vaccine than without it would simply cause a lot of resentment and opposition and more questioning what the point of getting it was by those who have had it. Yes of course there is the health argument but lets be honest, many have got it because they want to see an end to the restrictions. This idea of 'enjoy summer freedom while you can because we will be back in lockdown in the autumn' is a load of nonsense imo because the justification will be less and simply wont be accepted.

Day 22 (or 12*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.66 of 37,767 tests highest rate in a long time...

hospitalization: no change -3 = 371

intensive care: +1 to 47

deaths: total 3 (1 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: 3 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 155,000....

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days ago saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

As hard as they are pushing this "new" vaccine booster the more it makes sense.
This will never stop as it only covers one strain of the virus and soon there will be a mutent strain that you will need another vaccine for and then another and then another.

Remember when they tried pushing the flu shot in the same manner yet people were still getting the flue.
Then the truth surfaced that the flu shots only covered one or two of the many flu strains out there which only made the flu vaccines 15% effective or whatever.

These Covid vaccines could very well be the Mark of the Beast.
You either get one or you don't get to function in society. Yikes !
Notice it has a bite from the Apple, a reminder Satan is in control.
That's why Steve Jobs wouldn't even let his kids look at an I-phone while he was alive.
He knew what Ted Kasinsky knew. Tech nology bad.

@johnny reb
I will have one of what ever you are drinking.

It is mutant


It is flu.


I would not if I were you, his brain is clearly not there......