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jon357
2 Oct 2021  #7771

Yet the world goes on fine, with the consensus of scientific opinion unharmed by cranks and deniers.

mafketis
2 Oct 2021  #7772

A round number. Zero.

Do you believe the information given here:

worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

If not.... then you just might be a conspiracy theorist....

If yes.... then.... I dunno, I just dunno....

jon357
2 Oct 2021  #7773

believe

That pesky word "believe".

I don't 'believe' that scepticism surrounding data that comes from a totalitarian regime makes someone a conspiraturd.

Ignoring the entire weight of scientific consensus and constantly pushing obvious online fabrications in a particularly upierdliwy way however does...

johnny reb
2 Oct 2021  #7774

It should come as no surprise that merely criticizing the government or objecting to a COVID-19 vaccine could get you labeled as a terrorist and incarcerated in a detainment camp denying you access to your family or friends.

Smell the coffee brewing jon or do you still claim that denial is a river in Egypt ?

Novichok
2 Oct 2021  #7775

Yet the world goes on fine,

Whose world? The lockdown Gestapo caused misery, destruction, addiction, suicides, and on and on. The most measurable outcome: the middle class, already under assault, was stripped naked by spending their savings and retirement assets.

That money, btw, didn't just disappear. It went to the 1%-ers like Amazon and Walmart who somehow didn't get locked up. It's amazing how making political contributions helps the contributors.

I don't 'believe' that skepticism surrounding data

But you believe "data"? The system loves people like you.

jon357
2 Oct 2021  #7776

get you labeled as a terrorist and incarcerated in a detainment camp

Really?

johnny reb
2 Oct 2021  #7777

Yup and now there is talk of withholding all seniors Social Security and Medicare benefits if they are not vaccinated.

The system loves people like you.

Oh do they ever and that is why they are called the 'sheeple'.

mafketis
2 Oct 2021  #7778

One of the most informed and numerically literate writers on covid

boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-heads-north-for-the-winter

short story: cases and fatalities are up where they shouldn't be and the two likely culprits are

vaccinated superspreaders

leaky vaccines (like the ones so far) select for more virulent strains

the unsettling question is are we headed for a Marek scenario (where widespread use of a leaky vaccine makes a virus far more deadly...)

jon357
2 Oct 2021  #7779

superspreaders

No-one said the medicine was perfect, and it's still better than any alternative.

Yup and now there is talk of withholding all seniors Social Security and Medicare benefits if they are not vaccinated.

No there isn't.

Korvinus
2 Oct 2021  #7780

No-one said the medicine was perfect, and it's still better than any alternative.

Still avoiding the elephant in the room,

One of the leading German pathologists actually found that 30-40% of everyone who died within 14 days of the injection died of the injection. This is scientific data that lead to the German Federal Association of Pathologists (the scientists) to demand many more autopsies in such cases. Yet the politicians (not scientists) refused.

Explain how not listening to the scientific consensus among pathologists and thus vastly undercounting the number of vaxx deaths is "scientific".


Are German pathologists "fantasists and trumpists" too?

aerzteblatt.de/nachrichten/126061/Heidelberger-Pathologe-pocht-auf-mehr-Obduktionen-von-Geimpften

johnny reb
2 Oct 2021  #7781

it's still better than any alternative.

Prove it.

No there isn't.

O.k., there isn't.
The Washington post is spreading more fake news.......right jon ?

washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-vaccines-delta/2021/08/05/4359ac76-f567-11eb-a49b-d96f2dac0942_story.html

Korvinus
2 Oct 2021  #7782

Get ready now for the TWINDEMIC:
nytimes.com/2020/08/16/health/coronavirus-flu-vaccine-twindemic.html
healthline.com/health-news/why-risk-of-a-flu-covid-19-twindemic-is-higher-this-year
seattletimes.com/nation-world/as-experts-warn-of-brutal-flu-twindemic-here-are-8-things-to-know-about-getting-your-flu-shot/

They are literally calling the next flu wave a pandemic now.
How come there wasn't a twindemic last year? Was the Flu on vacation?

Novichok
2 Oct 2021  #7783

We will remember 2020 and 2021 as the first two years when death from old age and a health-destroying lifestyle became unacceptable.
Now, eating like a pig, getting fat, diabetes, and high blood pressure are social constructs and totally irrelevant when covid is discussed. Any references to them are mean and border on hate speech. Why? Because the beginning of this snake, eating like a pig, is a disease, not a stupid choice.

That's why the fatsos deserve our sympathy and unconditional support. And, of course, priority in hospital admissions.

jon357
2 Oct 2021  #7784

One of the leading German pathologists

Against the opinion of the other 99.99% of 'leading' German pathologists.

johnny reb
3 Oct 2021  #7785

99.99%

Sources please.
On Thursday Robert W. Malone, an American scientist well known for inventing mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug shared a peer reviewed scientific study that concluded that a COVID-19 inoculation in children is more dangerous for them than the virus itself.

Malone was also part of the team that conducted the first mRNA vaccine experiments.
In short, his scientific knowledge of mRNA vaccines is unquestionable.
Don't believe him though, believe jon's "opinions" without sources.

jon357
3 Oct 2021  #7786

well known for inventing

The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation. Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology.

theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

mafketis
3 Oct 2021  #7787

Day 60 (or 50*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 3.61% of 30,175 tests..

hospitalization: +45 = 1718 (first drop in a while, that's good)

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

day 60: 4.1 %
day 59: 0.0 % (not gonna do negative percentages)
day 58: 5.4 %
day 57: 4.0 %
day 56: 3.0 %
day 55: 14.9 %
day 54: 9.7 %
day 53: 4.3 %
day 52: 5.9 %
day 51: 6.0 %

intensive care: -8 = 166

deaths: 6 (4 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 17 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 170,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Ziemowit
3 Oct 2021  #7788

Maf, this Covid disease must be an obsession of yours ...

jon357
3 Oct 2021  #7789

@mafketis
Thanks for your (as always valuable and interesting) daily covid post. It's always good to see a fall in the number of infections, hospital admissions and above all, the number of deaths.

obsession

If it weren't for obsessions with stats, we'd not have stats.

mafketis
3 Oct 2021  #7790

this Covid disease must be an obsession of yours ...

Not especially. But early on I began dealing with it by looking at the official raw numbers rather than the hysterical and misleading media takes.

johnny reb
3 Oct 2021  #7791

The virus sweeping across the globe has no cure at this time but sin has.
There is a Physician named Jesus who has provided His blood as the covering for sin.
Jesus has provided victory for all who seek Him in true repentance.

Novichok
3 Oct 2021  #7792

those that have come in with heart attacks or car crashes,

The covid Gestapo, powerful enough to lock down a nation, should tell all that by date certain, with vaccinations free and available, that those who chose to refuse it will not be admitted to hospitals under any conditions and thus make beds available to those who are ill not by choice.

Getting covid while unvaccinated is a personal choice and so are the consequences. Just like abortion. Goodbye.

johnny reb
3 Oct 2021  #7793

By the way they are jamming the vaccine down our throats day after day after day, day in and day out you have to be an idiot not to know there is a bigger plan behind all of this.

Novichok
3 Oct 2021  #7794

If you want to see the face of a female version of Hitler...From daillymail.com:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10053523/New-Zealands-Delta-outbreak-spreads-outside-Auckland.html

Zero Covid New Zealand brings in MORE lockdowns as Delta outbreak spreads beyond Auckland - which has been locked down for one-and-a-half months in an attempt to eliminate the virus

...and predictable readers' reaction to the NZ Fuhrer:

Kim Jong Arden

Don't be fooled, the globalist w1tch knows exactly what she is doing, and it has nothing to do with the virus.

A client state of China! And a Pm of the left. Equals a demented Dictator?


But some idiots here call Belarus a dictatorship. Yeah. Sure.

johnny reb
3 Oct 2021  #7795

The Phillippines have it the worst of anyone.

The Philippines has been under some form of lockdown or strict quarantine for 17 continuous months, yet it finds itself with thousands of cases a day being so densely populated.

In August 2020, the Philippines, already under quarantine measures involving shuttered businesses, enforced curfew hours, and limited access to basic supplies, was at a crossroads.
A year later, the country remains in one of the longest running, strictest quarantines in the world......518 consecutive days, at the time of writing, in various flexing levels with restrictions on movement that risk fines or even beatings from militarized law enforcement.

One guy went out on the street in front of his home after dark to buy drinking water for his family and was beaten to death by these goons.

Coming to America and Europe soon.

Novichok
4 Oct 2021  #7796

Little Hitler forgot where he lives...From dailymail.com:

Frustration as Fauci says it's 'too soon to tell' if families can gather for Christmas - and says immigrants are 'absolutely not' responsible for COVID spread

No, a-hole, it's time to tell now. I will get together with my family for Christmas and the remaining 364 days if I so damn please and there is nothing your Gestapo can do about it.

It is possible, of course, that the little Hitler thinks that should and can mean the same.

mafketis
4 Oct 2021  #7797

Day 61 (or 51*) of the fourth wave...

At present there's no day with bad news on the percentage of positive tests, hospitalizations and deaths... less encouraging numbers in one are offset by encouraging numbers elsewhere....

percent of positive test results: 3.17% of 21,583 tests..

hospitalization: +122= 1840

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions: not sure if I'll keep this up... it isn't indicating much....

day 61: 17.8 %
day 60: 4.1 %
day 59: 0.0 %
day 58: 5.4 %
day 57: 4.0 %
day 56: 3.0 %
day 55: 14.9 %
day 54: 9.7 %
day 53: 4.3 %
day 52: 5.9 %

intensive care: +4 = 170

deaths: 0

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 17 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 170,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Korvinus
4 Oct 2021  #7798

Against the opinion of the other 99.99% of 'leading' German pathologists.

Do you have any link to some of the opinions of these 99.99% German pathologists?

Not to mention that, once upon a time, the media would be jumping all over this and running around asking the government why it wasn't allowing the autopsies. They are acting the same as some other recent event, where they hid everything, demonised someone, and still hide things about it. They become magically trustworthy when it comes to viruses and vaccines.

Speaking purely anecdotally, everyone I know who's been vaxxed seems less intelligent now.. I know quite a few people, including some family, who have been vaxxed. The most noticeable effect I've experienced, is they now seem incapable of questioning the mainstream narrative concerning anything to do with C19 or vaccinations. They oddly seem lackadaisical about life in general, no matter the issue of discussion regardless of its real world significance. And some of these people I'm talking about used to be extraordinarily concerned with political or world events. Now they just go about their days on seeming auto-pilot, oblivious to the political and societal destruction happening around.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Oct 2021  #7799

Do you have any link to some of the opinions of these 99.99% German pathologists?

Maybe not 99%....but the article also says:

....Allerdings widersprechen ihm in dem Punkt andere Wissenschaftler ebenso wie die Ständige Impfkommission (STIKO) und das Paul-Ehrlich-Institut (PEI).

Transl.: ....though other scientist disagree with him about that also as the "Ständige Impfkommission (STIKO) - Standing Committee on Vaccination....and the Paul-Ehrlich-Institut (PEI).

rki.de/DE/Content/Kommissionen/STIKO/stiko_node.html

pei.de/DE/home/home-node.html

So yes...alot of deciders think otherwise....but I think too more autopsies are needed, how else should they learn about that virus and what it does in the human body?

johnny reb
4 Oct 2021  #7800

Speaking purely anecdotally, everyone I know who's been vaxxed seems less intelligent now..

I have noticed that here in the U.S.A. also !
Now that you have brought it to our attention here, I think you may be onto something.
As bad as they are forcing these vaccines down our throats one can only conclude that they have a plan behind it all that is not in our best interest.

Answer this, "How many times a day do you hear the word 'VACCINE' on t.v., the internet, the radio and from your friends ?"
My answer is, "NON-STOP, day after day after day after day after day. Koo Koo !
Now forcing children (who have less than a .001 percent chance of dying from covid) to get one or deny them their schooling.
It's nuts !
Pay attention, something ain't right here.


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