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Miloslaw
25 Jan 2019  #121

What a weak reply you tried

No,your initial post was weak.

jon357
25 Jan 2019  #122

Is that the best you can do?

When communities and groups within society decide to celebrate their culture and history. they do so because they feel they have both a reason and a right to do so. If some online bod doesn't like that, I doubt they lose much sleep.

Miloslaw
25 Jan 2019  #123

Sorry,but that poor reply doesn't even warrant a response.
Pathetic

jon357
25 Jan 2019  #124

doesn't even warrant a response.

Yet somehow a response appeared, didn't it. In the form of a response that exists only to say that something didn't warrant a response.

Did you vote for 'brexit' by any chance?

Miloslaw
25 Jan 2019  #125

You need to cure this obsession you have with Brexit.
I think it is leading you to some sort of
Mental disorder......

Joker
25 Jan 2019  #126

The lefties are going to try and make the Brits hold another election because they didn't like the outcome of the last election?

This reminds of the snowflake cry babies after Hillary miserably lost in 2016

Mental disorder..

Expat Disorder! LOL

jon357
25 Jan 2019  #127

this obsession you have with Brexit.

You may have noticed (or maybe you haven't) that it's not exactly a minor issue in the news right now.

9 weeks to make a deal. It takes longer than that to get planning permission for a conservatory...

TheOther
26 Jan 2019  #128

make the Brits hold another election

Another referendum might be a good idea actually. Airbus just announced that they are considering to leave Britain in case of a no-deal Brexit. Approx. 125,000 jobs on the line if you include the supply chain, and this is just the beginning.

Joker
26 Jan 2019  #129

Another referendum might be a good idea actually

So, you want to disenfranchise to first election because you didn't like the results.

Why even have the election in the first place?

They can make you dictator!

TheOther
26 Jan 2019  #130

Why even have the election in the first place?

In case you didn't know: it was not an election, but a referendum, and the referendum was NON-BINDING! Look it up.

Rich Mazur
26 Jan 2019  #131

Because the current WE ruling class intensely dislikes the binding kind. Just like their mentors, the USSR, did, with the only difference that the WE clique has no access to the gulags. But they can turn the stubbornly unrepenting into unemployed and shunned with an amazing ease.

It's just as effective as the re-educational camps in NK and China.

Miloslaw
26 Jan 2019  #132

and the referendum was NON-BINDING!

Except for the fact that MP's not only voted for it but both main parties stated that they would honour the result......
It was non binding but Labour and Conservative bound themselves to it.....stop playing games......

cms neuf
26 Jan 2019  #133

Its not "lefties" I think another referendum is required - that has wider support in the population than no Deal does.

It is not ideal but the justification would be that the politicians who promised Brexit have not been able to deliver on it.

Miloslaw
26 Jan 2019  #134

I think another referendum is required

If that happens it will kill democracy in The UK for a generation.
People are already questioning the point of voting if politicians ignore you.
People en masse will either stop voting or vote for more extreme parties in the hope of being listened to.
Neither is desirable.

cms neuf
26 Jan 2019  #135

Democracy has been killed many times over since the election - May has done her utmost to keep legal advice secret, to ignore the Scottish and Welsh assemblies and to bypass Parliamentary procedure to stop her nihilistic version of Brexit being amended.

Faith in politicians in the UK could hardly be lower than it is at the moment - there might be some falling turnout for a few elections but I doubt it would be a permanent trend.

As for voting for more extreme parties Then UKIP is still in existence and people can vote for them if they want. Britain's first past the post system means it is virtually impossible for smaller parties to come in and get seats in parliament - that's both a strength and a weakness.

Miloslaw
26 Jan 2019  #136

Democracy has been killed many times over since the election

So what you are saying is that it is therefore fine to do it again?

As they say,two wrongs don't make a right.

jon357
26 Jan 2019  #137

Faith in politicians in the UK could hardly be lower than it is at the moment

Quite. And when there's proven electoral fraud and a tiny margin in the result...

Miloslaw
26 Jan 2019  #138

Faith in politicians in the UK could hardly be lower than it is at the moment

It can still go much lower...........

.

And when there's proven electoral fraud and a tiny margin in the result...

So your solution is to therefore ignore democracy?
And the margin was not tiny,transfer those votes into seats as in a General Election and it is closer to a landslide.

cms neuf
26 Jan 2019  #139

No I'm not saying that is fine - I am saying it is the least bad Of a series of poor options.

If the population still vote for Brexit on the terms that are presented then nobody can argue that they didn't know what they were voting for.

Miloslaw
26 Jan 2019  #140

- I am saying it is the least bad Of a series of poor options

I actually think it is the worst of all the options.Too divisive and we have already voted.
I don't believe the nonsense that people didn't know what they were voting for.
Most people saw through all the lies that both remain and leave dished out in equal measure.
The only thing nobody foresaw was the Irish border question,because it is an EU manufactured problem.

cms neuf
26 Jan 2019  #141

It is not a landslide - the difference is 500.000 people, 2 percent of electors and 1 percent of the population.

Not sure why you are so worried about another referendum - if people voted for this chaos 2 years ago they would by your logic vote for it again now

jon357
26 Jan 2019  #142

Some 'brexsh1tters' say that if we have a 2nd referendum, why not a 3rd? We could. That's democracy, otherwise we'd have one election for everything and then throw away the ballot box.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Jan 2019  #143

Britain is unraveling....maybe they should ask the Queen what to do?

She just said someting mysterious...

Miloslaw
26 Jan 2019  #144

It is not a landslide - the difference is 500.000 people

Not it wasn't,it was 1,269,000,which in an election would be a comfortable working majority.

if we have a 2nd referendum, why not a 3rd? We could

Which is why we don't have elections every two years.
Pointless and stupid.

cms neuf
26 Jan 2019  #145

Yes but the swing needed is 650.000 - (a bit bigget than 500.000 yes)

Brexit might still happen but i dont think it will happen in march

Bratwurst Boy
26 Jan 2019  #146

I still doubt that Britain will walk together into the sunrise afterwards, no matter when or how the Brexit happens....the gap has become to deep and the people to hostile about it.

I agree with those who ask: Is it worth it?

isitworthit.org.uk/

Many of the Brexiters had the destruction of the EU on their agenda, hoping the Brexit becoming the first domino stone...now it's only destroying Britain. And ironically strenghtening the EU over it.

Nothing patriotic about it at all...

Miloslaw
26 Jan 2019  #147

.now it's only destroying Britain. And ironically strenghtening the EU over it.

Not true.
Take a look at the lastest economic and employment forecasts for The UK compared to Germany,France and Italy..........

jon357
26 Jan 2019  #148

I still doubt that Britain will walk together into the sunrise afterwards,

According to that tit Boris Johnson, it's going to be "sunlit uplands".

Certainly not for the Airbus workers and many others who are out of a job.

Nothing patriotic about it at all...

Nothing at all.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Jan 2019  #149

Not true.
Take a look at the lastest economic and employment forecasts for The UK compared to Germany,France and Italy..........

I for sure didn't mean economics this time....

The Brits are infighting like *****, whereas the EU has posed a unified front through all the negotiations. The agreement with the EU rose in all member states and the "...exiters" lost big. All are watching the Brexit-Drama and drawing their conclusions..

Miloslaw
26 Jan 2019  #150

The Brits are infighting like *****, whereas the EU has posed a unified front through all the negotiations

I completely agree with you on this one.
Which is why I am against a second referendum.
I think most British people,whichever way they voted,just want us to get on and leave.
Even delaying it will infuriate many.


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