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Are the English going to lose Great Britain ?



pawian
6 Feb 2019  #1

I can read more and more articles about the possibility of Northern Ireland uniting with Ireland and Scotland leaving Great Britain after hard brexit. Or is it a bluff spread by May circles to make her opponents ease up the pressure on her government?

November 2018
Six in 10 people here and eight out of 10 in the Irish Republic believe that the UK should not proceed with Brexit if it means a hard border in Ireland, according to a cross-border survey.

December 2018
A recent poll showed 30 percent of voters in Northern Ireland would support a united Ireland if Brexit occurred under May's deal (with the backstop), with support rising to 48 percent if there was no deal (requiring a hard border).

January 2019
She said a no-deal Brexit would "strengthen the hand" of those calling for an Irish border poll and a second referendum on Scottish independence.

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #2

I can read more and more articles about the possibility of Northern Ireland uniting with Ireland and Scotland leaving Great Britain

What planet are you on???
You have absolutely no comprehension about how The British Isles work.
Picking quotes like that out of the sky just doesn't do it.

delphiandomine
6 Feb 2019  #3

I can read more and more articles about the possibility of Northern Ireland uniting with Ireland and Scotland leaving Great Britain after hard brexit.

It's very possible. The Scottish Government is waiting to see what form Brexit will take, but it seems pretty obvious at this point that a disorderly no deal Brexit will push support for independence above 50%.

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #4

Not obvious at all.
I think you underestimate Scottish support of The Union.
A sad thing to see in a Scot.

delphiandomine
6 Feb 2019  #5

What support? The referendum was lost mostly on the pensions issue, as old people believed that they would end up worse off after independence. There's no real sentiment for the Union except in parts of Glasgow, it's primarily an economics issue, nothing more.

Anyway, Scotland is gradually breaking away anyway. Income tax rates are now different, and Brexit will mean the possibility of legislating in a huge amount of new areas.

pawian
6 Feb 2019  #6

You have absolutely no comprehension about how The British Isles work.

That is why I am asking.

But after such a reply, one should lay his cards on the table. So, tell us what your absolute comprehension is. I really want to learn.

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #7

Anyway, Scotland is gradually breaking away anyway

I think most Scots will disagree,but fine,Scotland is another expense saved by England if you leave the union.
I personally have no problem with England supporting Scotland financially,but hey,if you want to do it,go ahead.
Scotexit from The UK will be far more painful than Brexit.

dolnoslask
6 Feb 2019  #8

I just hope England makes it a hard Scotexit, no financial support, plus they carry their fair burden of national debt'

lol,lol,lol

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #9

I just find it very sad that a minority of Scots think like Delph.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Feb 2019  #10

Not talking Scotexit, but a majority of the Scots has voted for Remain...what to do about them Milo?

bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36599102

dolnoslask
6 Feb 2019  #11

I just find it very sad that a minority of Scots think like Delph.

Nah bring it on it will be funny, It will make Greece look like a financial powerhouse, the place is mainly full of midges, you only visit there once and that's it.

delphiandomine
6 Feb 2019  #12

I just hope England makes it a hard Scotexit, no financial support, plus they carry their fair burden of national debt'

Why doesn't England just leave? Much better for everyone.

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #13

majority of the Scots has voted for Remain...what to do about them Milo?

This is where it get's complicated.
The majority of Scots also voted to remain in The UK.
You will have to ask the Scots if they trust Brussels more than London.

delphiandomine
6 Feb 2019  #14

EU support runs at 70% these days in Scotland. Only 54% voted to stay in the UK...

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #15

Ok,so leave The Union.
We just like to have you on board.
If you feel like that,we English will be disappointed,but glad of the relief of another financial burden being removed.

dolnoslask
6 Feb 2019  #16

Why doesn't England just leave?

Better to allow a second vote (now everyone knows what's involved and at risk) and nobody will leave, oh sorry no political party wants that (wonder why?)

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #17

, the place is mainly full of midges, you only visit there once and that's it.

Hilarious!!!!!

pawian
6 Feb 2019  #18

If you feel like that,we English will be disappointed,but glad of the relief of another financial burden being removed.

I don`t think the English will be so glad. They will keep Wales only and that is too little to feel proud,, compared to ruling half the world in the past. Don`t they support Scotland and NI financially to pamper their ego?

Picking quotes like that out of the sky just doesn't do it.

Yes, but why from the sky, I didn`t invent them. Are they media propaganda?

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #19

I don`t think the English will be so glad.

We won't be,because contrary to some Scots beliefs,we actually like them.....but they are a financial burden that we could do without.

And we have got over losing our empire.
But our circle of influence in much of the world should never be underestimated....that is one reason why The USA keep us so close.

dolnoslask
6 Feb 2019  #20

compared to ruling half the world in the past. .

Well if you meet up with some Brit expats they will tell you that they still do, and quickly move the conversation to how you are running your country all wrong.

pawian
6 Feb 2019  #21

But our circle of influence in much of the world should never be underestimated.. .that is one reason why The USA keep us so close.

No, I suppose English-American relation is like of ancient Rome and Greece`s. Romans admired Greek culture, but controlled it politically and militarily.

And we have got over losing our empire.

One never gets fully over such things. Look at Poles, Russians, French, etc... They still can`t forget. So can`t the English but they won`t admit it openly.

pawian
6 Feb 2019  #22

and quickly move the conversation to how you are running your country all wrong.

Brits so rude as to tell such a thing? Impossible! That means everything I tell students about well-mannered classy dignified Brits is worthless?

Crow
7 Feb 2019  #23

English will lose GB, sure. English losing everything. Bad karma.

pawian
7 Feb 2019  #24

English will lose GB, sure.

That`s bad because Europe mustn`t disintegrate any further. but stay united as much as possible. Only united Europe will be able to stand up to aggressive Russia and selfish USA. Seperate countries have no chance.

Rich Mazur
7 Feb 2019  #25

Only united Europe will be able to stand up to aggressive Russia and selfish USA.

Please, tell me you don't teach this crap. USA selfish? You have been getting a free ride for decades via NATO and anti-American tariffs. Now, that we finally have a guy who told you what he thinks about that, the USA is selfish. Google "selfish" before you post.

Aggressive Russia? Sure. The Warsaw pact gone, NATO at the gates and Russia is aggressive. I got it.

pawian
7 Feb 2019  #26

? You have been getting a free ride for decades via NATO and anti-American tariffs.

You whine about Europe`s free ride like a parrot after Trump but again, and it`s not the first time, you and him lack a wider perspective. I am really amazed.

politico.eu/article/donald-trump-nato-outburst-united-states-real-victim/

Trump is right that European countries spend much less on defense that Washington. What he fails to understand is that the biggest beneficiary of that arrangement is the United States. Europe's "free riding" is what has allowed the U.S. to become the world's only unquestioned superpower.

dolnoslask
7 Feb 2019  #27

Americans twice came to Europe's rescue in the late 20th century, at a massive human and financial cost.

You got that bit right.

pawian
7 Feb 2019  #28

Aggressive Russia? Sure. The Warsaw pact gone, NATO at the gates and Russia is aggressive. I got it.

That`s nice that you are so nice about Russia. However, let me remind you that European sanctions against Russia have been imposed for 4 years now. For nothing?

Miloslaw
7 Feb 2019  #29

Seperate countries have no chance.

Bollocks!
The seperate countries of USA,Britain,Canada and The Anzecs saved Europe from themselves.....
What did they have in common?
Oh yeah,they all spoke English......
The English speaking nations are getting a bit fed up of saving Europeans from themselves.
Poland is right to align themselves more with The USA and The UK.

Bratwurst Boy
7 Feb 2019  #30

Oi...I didn't know May had once been a Remainer!

theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/07/billboard-campaigners-brexit-led-by-donkeys


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