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Are the English going to lose Great Britain ?



Miloslaw
11 Feb 2019  #91

@Bratwurst Boy
Pure fantasy.
Scotland cannot support itself without massive funding from either The UK or The EU.
As a self supporting independent state it is a non starter.

Crow
11 Feb 2019  #92

Scotland can also join in new Commonwealth around Poland. Or, if Duda betray, what is quite realistic, around Serbia and Hungary.

Miloslaw
11 Feb 2019  #93

I can just picture that Scottish/Serbian commonwealth.....sorry,commonpoverty.....

Bratwurst Boy
11 Feb 2019  #94

Pure fantasy.

Yeah...I remember people talking like that about a Brexit....

Miloslaw
11 Feb 2019  #95

I never heard that except from The EU's arch remainer poodles....or dachshunds if you prefer... :-)

Crow
11 Feb 2019  #96

I can just picture that Scottish/Serbian commonwealth.....sorry,commonpoverty.....

Map of Europe changing, man. And changing fast. EU goes down. It would be quite different without Britain and some other countries, while Germany and France will merge. Nothing won`t be same. Money flow will be re-directed. Serbian dinar is already labeled as second best currency in the world and Serbia is No.1 country for investments in the region. 60-70% of former Yugoslavia will again join to Serbia.

Miloslaw
11 Feb 2019  #97

What are you on?????

Crow
11 Feb 2019  #98

You are man without sensibility, Miloslawe.

Miloslaw
11 Feb 2019  #99

Coming from you,I take that as a compliment.
Thank you!

Crow
11 Feb 2019  #100

Don`t hurry to thank me. I also thinks you are mentally frigid. One can try to stimulate you but won`t get proper feed-back.

Miloslaw
11 Feb 2019  #101

mentally frigid

Lol!!!
I like that too.....Poles and Brits are both accused of being cold,unemotional and unresposive.
It is untrue of both nationalities, although they both do sometimes appear that way.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Feb 2019  #102

Poles and Brits are both accused of being cold,unemotional and unresposive.

I thought that would be the Germans? ;)

Miloslaw
11 Feb 2019  #103

Yeah,you share that with Brits.....must be something in the Anglo Saxon blood..... :-)

Bratwurst Boy
11 Feb 2019  #104

Those Saxons of old must have been some cold blooded bastards! :)

Miloslaw
11 Feb 2019  #105

Fake news....The Vikings were worse...... ;-)

Atch
12 Feb 2019  #106

Irish, too. They all will be happy to see England down in well deserved oblivion of history.

That's not true Crow. You must understand that although we don't want to be ruled by England we don't hate them or even dislike them. Most Irish people like England and the the English people. In the same way that you feel a brotherhood with your Slavic neighbours, the Irish, English, Scots and Welsh share the same feeling between ourselves. We have more in common with each other than we have with any mainland European people. And although the United Kingdom as a political entity is definitely on borrowed time, "there will always be an England" - and I, as an Irish person, am glad of it :)

Crow
12 Feb 2019  #107

Forget England. Wash hands from them and put cross on yourself. England should be Russia`s gubernia for some time. It would make them good. They will be better people after that.

pawian
12 Feb 2019  #108

The latest development
scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-scotland-will-be-independent-in-five-years-1-4871139

I read comments under the article in Polish. Some romantic guys cheered the news, a few were sceptic, suggesting Scotland won`t be able to keep the current standard of living without England. Similar to varied opinions here.

delphiandomine
12 Feb 2019  #109

The latest development

A chaotic Brexit will almost certainly push Yes over the 50% barrier. The Scottish Government is still way out in front after 12 years in power, and polls are showing that there's not much swing needed for a vote to be won.

This will interest you - drg.global/wp-content/uploads/W7181w18-ST-tables-for-publication-051218.pdf - the key problem right now is women aged 55+.

Miloslaw
12 Feb 2019  #110

a few were sceptic, suggesting Scotland won`t be able to keep the current standard of living without England.

Exactly,but Michael, sorry,Delph,prefers to live in a dreamworld.

Atch
13 Feb 2019  #111

A chaotic Brexit will almost certainly push Yes over the 50% barrier.

Yes, that's the key really. Scotland is an interesting case because it threw its lot in with England three hundred years ago and has largely benefited as a result unlike Ireland who kept fighting and rebelling and was punished accordingly :) So, this is a turning point for Scotland where the price of Union with the English Crown has two effects:

1) Brings home to the Scottish people their lack of sovereignty, in that they chose to remain in the EU but must leave because the English people want to.

2) Their ties to England may lead to a loss of material wealth and lower their standard of living, whereas in the past it has done the opposite.

Actually the Act of Union between Scotland and England back in 1707 or thereabouts, lead to a much stronger economy for both countries at that time. That's what I mean when I say that the United Kingdom has run its course as a political entity. With the Union of European nations, we've moved on, and an alliance between Scotland and England is no longer necessary for the people of Scotland. Scotland could certainly function independently in every sense as it's an advanced society and established democracy which knows how to govern itself. The only, and of course not inconsiderable hurdle is economic, but if the UK leaves the EU, then Scotland is in a much better position for acceptance into the EU than many of the other nations currently hoping to gain admission.

rozumiemnic
13 Feb 2019  #112

people seem to forget about Wales.
just to remind people,.it's that bit that looks a bit like a pig's head, stuck on the left hand side of the island that constitutes Great Britain...

TheOther
13 Feb 2019  #113

people seem to forget about Wales.

Is there a chance that Wales will have a vote for independence, too, or are they hanging in there with England?

rozumiemnic
13 Feb 2019  #114

don't be ridiculous, Othery, Wales couldn't survive alone. There is nothing here apart from millions of sheep, lots of fields and a few universities. Oh and some steel works that have been sold to an Indian company.

TBH I don't think Scotland would survive either. OK they have funds and oil but for how long?

I wouldn't llisten to these crazed Serbs whose idea of British history is mainly gleaned from 'Braveheart'.

TheOther
13 Feb 2019  #115

don't be ridiculous, Othery, Wales couldn't survive alone

Sorry, then I misunderstood you.

There is nothing here apart from millions of sheep, lots of fields and a few universities

Just like Australia. We survived, too... :)

rozumiemnic
13 Feb 2019  #116

you clearly have a poor grasp of geo-politics and world resources if you are comparing Wales and Australia...

TheOther
13 Feb 2019  #117

Well, we have New South Wales... :)

rozumiemnic
13 Feb 2019  #118

<yawns>

In fact it's odd, how the mind doesn't associate 'New South Wales' with 'South Wales'..or indeed 'New York' with 'York'... those colonists were so unoriginal..

TheOther
13 Feb 2019  #119

those colonists were so unoriginal

Yep. West Australia, Northern Territory, South Australia ... how creative.

<yawns>

What's wrong?

rozumiemnic
13 Feb 2019  #120

nothing really Othery, thank you, just a bit tired of having inane conversations online and in real life I have clinical depression. But thanks for asking.


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