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Are the English going to lose Great Britain ?



Ironside
9 Feb 2019  #61

NATO is useless.

dude NATO is not your nanny to smooth out all of the rough patches on your path.

Rich Mazur
9 Feb 2019  #62

NATO is good for preventing a full scale conflict with Russia.

BS. NATO is useless because NATO is the US. All of you in Europe are just on the US military welfare and useless window decorations.

Russia is not a threat to anyone in the WE. It's the other way around with NATO advancing east long after the Warsaw Pact is just a memory.

Don't even try this crap about the "annexation" of Crimea.

pawian
10 Feb 2019  #63

Actually, Russia is a big threat because it hasn`t given up its traditional propensity for physical expansion at the cost of other states and nations. .

Wow, this is a really sincere disclosure of yours. Are you sure you are allowed to reveal your agenda so freely?

After my previous posts, you must have come to the conclusion that hiding under that fake Am Polish profile is useless.
That`s good.

Don't even try this crap about the "annexation" of Crimea.

Poles have a saying for that: Strike the table and the scissors will sound. Google for its meaning if you don`t understand.

Rich Mazur
10 Feb 2019  #64

You google Crimea, its history, ethnic composition, and about the referendum. Check how many shots were fired during the Russian conquest of Crimea and how many were killed on both sides. How about zero, zero, and zero.

Then, check what happened in Ukraine before that Russian "invasion" and if the Russians had any reason to worry that one day their naval base will be in NATO's hands.

Hate makes people stupid.

That "Don't even try this crap about the "annexation" of Crimea" was a preemptive move to save you time.

cms neuf
10 Feb 2019  #65

Great work - you managed to shoe horn the Crimea onto a few message boards just before you clock off for th weekend, that should get you a few roubles bonus and you can invite the chick from the computer next to yours for a typical Russian Sunday outing - some grey gloop in a gloomy restaurant followed by a walk round a park with a watery ice cream

Either that or the sound of happy grandkids crowded around the waffle iron in Chicago doing Disney karaoke on their iPads.

pawian
10 Feb 2019  #66

that should get you a few roubles bonus

Yes, it is amazing how that poster (he or she) is easily revealing their agenda. I thought they were more intelligent. Or he/she simply doesn`t care.

That "Don't even try this crap about the "annexation" of Crimea" was a preemptive move to save you time.

You forgot to add to that preemptive move that Eastern Ukraine isn`t Russian matter , either. :)

Dougpol1
10 Feb 2019  #67

some grey gloop in a gloomy restaurant followed by a walk round a park with a watery ice cream

Many years ago I stood watching some 80 year old men sitting in the park in Katowice, buddying up and playing chess on the tables set up by the lake. It was blazing hot and all the local couples were strolling by arm in arm. I remarked to my drinking pal how the old boys were so good at chess and on supposedly concentrating their thoughts.

"Yeah - on the girls...."

To be fair to Rich though, he will know first hand that Russian ice cream is the best in the world. Fact.

Crow
10 Feb 2019  #68

Only united Europe will be able to stand up to aggressive Russia and selfish USA.

Don`t worry. Serbs are mediators. Europe entering in Serbian era. Belgrade will replace Brussels.

Only English future is unclear. England maybe become Russian gubernia.

Miloslaw
10 Feb 2019  #69

You need to be retired....mental health problems....Serbs as mediators???
Please don't make me laugh.....
England will still be around and strong long after Serbia has faded into oblivion.....

Crow
10 Feb 2019  #70

It would be good for England to become Russian gubernia. It would in history stay remembered as highly positive era for English. Era of purification.

Slavictor
10 Feb 2019  #71

To the OP; in short, yes. For example, Birmingham is already 95% brown. Always remember who did this to the West.


  • ...and your little dog too

Joker
11 Feb 2019  #72

Birmingham is already 95% brown.

No wonder there is such a mass exodus of ppl wanting to leave England. Too bad, it used to be a nice place. Paris is another beautiful city, turned toilet, thru PCness.

..Serbs as mediators???

Maybe, not such a bad idea? If they don't obey the Serb mediators, they will call upon their Cracken!

England maybe become Russian gubernia.

England has been around a very very long time and has outlasted Yugoslavia:)

Rich Mazur
11 Feb 2019  #73

To be fair to Rich though, he will know first hand that Russian ice cream is the best in the world. Fact.

For the sixth time: would you like to see my Polish passport or my Polish birth certificate?
In the meantime, if you are trying shame me as being a Russian, you are failing miserably. In the US, Russia ranks much higher in every category than Poland. Some idiots here even think that we, Russians, can elect their presidents.

Did you notice this "we, Russians"? Now you can wonder if that was a Freudian slip or if he is just f****king with my brain. Hmm...

pawian
11 Feb 2019  #74

Being a Russian and acting as a Russian-controlled troll can be two different things.

Atch
11 Feb 2019  #75

I think It's inevitable that eventually the United Kingdom will break up simply because it's served its purpose, it's run its course. The Acts of Union which brought it about happened at a time in history when they were politically expedient for those times. Times have changed. But it will happen gradually. Northern Ireland is not likely to reunite with the rest of Ireland any time soon. The peace there is much too fragile to risk it by giving Unionists the impression that they're being 'forced' into a united Ireland and the economy of the Republic of Ireland is going to be seriously impacted by Brexit, so the financial considerations are also an issue.

As for Scotland, they are practically independent already with their own parliament, legal system, education system, established Church and so on. They want to remain in the EU and are being forced out as a direct result of being a part of the UK so for them, the issue of independence is going to be to the forefront again and there may well be a second referendum within the next couple of years.

I think what's really interesting is the future of the British overseas territories and Crown dependencies like Gibraltar and the Channel Islands. They are not part of the UK but they will be affected by Brexit. Depending on which they were, they either got a vote on Brexit or they didn't. The Channel Islands didn't get a vote at all. Gibraltar did, and a staggering 95% voted to remain in the EU, yet they have to leave. It spells out very clearly that there is a price to be paid for being under the protection of the English Crown and enjoying the benefits it gives. The bottom line is that England is in the driving seat. Because the people of England voted to leave, everybody is out and some didn't even have a say in it. It's astonishing to think that people who consider themselves British, such as the Channel Islanders and the Manx people (Isle of Man) didn't even have a vote on this issue which will impact their lives so much. So I think there will be enormous repercussions in the long term.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Feb 2019  #76

I wonder if all those Brexiters dreaming of it as the start of the break up of the EU ever considered the dangers of it to their own british union....

Dougpol1
11 Feb 2019  #77

the United Kingdom will break up

No!! Just imagine what "the United Kingdom" could have done in the past, if we had been one football team for example, like the Krauts. A united peoples could really have put it up the Germans!. Georgie Best would have won us the World Cup.

Instead, our Tory friends are desperately trying to put the (once) great back in Great Britain. Embarrassing.

Rich Mazur
11 Feb 2019  #78

At least we haven't butchered our neighbours in their beds since the Middle Ages, or burnt children alive in their houses,n.

Oh, yes you have. I mean "burnt children alive".

Your pilots did a splendid job fire bombing Dresden, children included, which was only logical, as little and cute kids would quickly grow up to be the SS.

BTW, don't get me wrong and assume that fire bombing Dresden was a bad idea. It was as wonderful as the US frying Japs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It should have been done way earlier.

dolnoslask
11 Feb 2019  #79

It was as wonderful as the US frying Japs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It should have been done way earlier.

Should have also fried the Soviets, would have solved a number of problems, but never mind hindsight eh.

johnny reb
11 Feb 2019  #80

Don't think for a minute the American G.I.'s didn't want to at the time.

Dougpol1
11 Feb 2019  #81

Your pilots did a splendid job fire bombing Dresden,

A war crime. The difference being that the British authorities have actually been to Dresden and formally apologised to the city (of little consequence in the scheme of things, but an acknowledgement of cause and effect)

From the Serbs for their appalling perversions (and we must never forget those shocking crimes) - nothing. Until they repent, they can carry on living in the dark ages.

Rich Mazur
11 Feb 2019  #82

A war crime. The difference being that the British authorities have actually been to Dresden and formally apologised to the city

You know what's a war crime? Letting a war continue one day longer.
The Brits should have never apologized for Dresden. Along with the Soviets and the Americans, they should have cut up Germany into smaller pieces, keep some, and give away the rest to others.

Ziemowit
11 Feb 2019  #83

"I've been wondering what that special place in hell looks like, for those who promoted Brexit, without even a sketch of a plan how to carry it out safely. Thank you." - said Donald Tusk in Brussels.

I think It's inevitable that eventually the United Kingdom will break up

Yes, this is indeed very likely. The case of Scotland would be particularly interesting in that context.

As for Scotlan, [..] they want to remain in the EU and are being forced out as a direct result of being a part of the UK

Do you remember the time when the Scotts were told by the EU they would not be automatically taken as a member state in the EU after Scotland voted for independence? At that time it may have looked as if England remained and Scotland were to be kicked out.

dolnoslask
11 Feb 2019  #84

The case of Scotland would be particularly interesting

It would because a Scotland in the EU would bring in the Question of Catalan and Spain, Scotland may just be the catalyst for a Spanish exit from the EU, or A Catalan break from Spain.

Crow
11 Feb 2019  #85

Scots are beautiful. Irish, too. They all will be happy to see England down in well deserved oblivion of history.

Chinese Xi announced this, few years ago, when said how is Britain insignificant country.

United Kingdom will break up simply because it's served its purpose, it's run its course.

Exactly. Lucifer used them as condom.

delphiandomine
11 Feb 2019  #86

Yes, this is indeed very likely. The case of Scotland would be particularly interesting in that context.

Scotland would be an intriguing case. It would very quickly join EFTA, but would it go as far as EU membership? I'm not so sure, especially as the Norwegian model works well for them and the countries are incredibly comparable.

Crow
11 Feb 2019  #87

Imagine scandal if Scotland join in Eurasian Union.

delphiandomine
11 Feb 2019  #88

Crowie, you madman ;)

Imagine indeed. It would probably be one of the biggest political stories of the 21st century!

Crow
11 Feb 2019  #89

Its possible even geographically.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Feb 2019  #90

Look at that:

Nicola Sturgeon: Scotland will be independent in five years

scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-scotland-will-be-independent-in-five-years-1-4871139


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