Are the English going to lose Great Britain ?

Thats their right but they were lied to by people who never expected to be held to their false promises

That`s interesting, I didn`t realise this division is so importantl. Most textbooks focus on those more colourful aspects of Scottish culture, so you understand that Highlands with their Games etc always take the upper hand. :)


Thanks, I will be more relaxed now. :)

I believe that the British, after dealing with Indian people and their culture since the times of the first East Indian Company, have learnt how to treat them as fully legitimate citizens.

Eh?
They are as British as I am.....in fact,considering my 100% Polish ancestry,they are MORE British than I am.
What a strange thing to say Pawian.

That must be a misunderstanding .I didn`t mean anything derogatory. I expressed my conviction that the native British have already accepted Indians as full citizens of the country. It wasn`t so obvious a few decades ago.

OK.Explanation accepted and agreed with.

I just recalled a black and white film about Lawrence of Arabia which I watched decades ago. In one scene. Lawrence comes back from a dangerous mission and brings his Indian friend to the canteen full of British officers who frown and tell him to leave. Lawrence almost cries when he gets emotional defending his partner.

Britain did have to go through many difficulties before we arived at where we are now.But we are more or less there.
I know that Poland never had an empire in the sense of The British Empire.
But can you imagine,even now,if thousands of Indians or Africans flocked to Poland how Poles would react?
I suggest that The British are far more tolerant than Poles and I am just stating that as a fact.
Not saying that one is better than the other.

Interestingly enough, it's already happening, and the Poles are largely reacting with indifference.

There's the usual ranting of insecure people online, and a few bad incidents, but nothing overwhelmingly bad is happening. There was a moment a couple of years ago when it seemed that it might get quite bad, but the government appeared to realise that it was a bad idea to turn a blind eye to racist attacks.

For now,wait and see what happens when and if numbers increase to the level they did in The UK......

I can see Polish attitudes to dark skinned people here in The UK.
They largely accept it because it is accepted in The UK.But they would be absolutely horrified if it happened in Poland.

You just beat me to it...


Because the British are morons. Anyone with a brain, before he would start giving out British passports to a group, would first do three things.

First, he would find out how large is the group. In this case, it's a billion.
Second, he would ask how many can we admit? .
Third, if the answer is not all, he would ask: how do we stop N+1?, with N being the limit.

That's what an intelligent person like me would do. But, if you (editorial) are world-class morons like the Brits, you ignore all of the above because, otherwise, it would be unkind and, oh my God, racist!

In the case of Indians there are only about one and half million of them in the UK out of a population of around 65 million. Indians are not considered foreigners in the UK, especially those whose families have been there for generations. They are very successful, economically independent and fully assimilated into British society. A significant number of them are far better spoken, well mannered and socially adept than their native British peers.

There is a Britishness about them due to their colonial past. Their record of service in the British armed forces, in the service of Britain, is hugely impressive. They have fought in every major campaign including WWI and WWII and received numerous awards for gallantry and bravery.

Despite the fact that you're only trolling, thus your ignorant remarks, certain facts must be pointed out.

Yes,that is of Indian descent only.
The 2011 UK Census recorded 1,451,862 residents of Indian, 1,174,983 of Pakistani and 451,529 of Bangladeshi ethnicity, making a total South Asian population of 3,078,374 (4.9 per cent of the total population), excluding other Asian groups and people of mixed ethnicity.

But I agree with the rest of your post.

Precisely. The discussion was about Indians in the UK, not Pakistanis or Bangladeshis.

Wrong.
In my original post I mentioned Indians and Sri Lankans.
Besides,before partition it was all one country anyway.
Why are you splitting hairs?

Exactly. So why, when I mentioned the figures for Indians in the UK, which was the nationality under discussion, did you respond with the figures for Pakistanis and Bangladeshis? And I think you'll find that having been separate countries since 1947, the nationals of such countries expect to be referred to as such and not classified as Indians. Similarly, Indians don't want to be lumped in with everybody else from the Indian subcontinent. Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan are all separate nationalities and should be classified as such. It's not a question of splitting hairs. It's a matter of being accurate, especially when you're discussing demographics.

They are all South Asians. Indians,Pakistanis and Bangladeshis can all speak to each other in the same language(Even though written they are different)and yes,you are splitting hairs.And it was your "Only 1.5 million" that annoyed,because actually it is more than double that.

I'm not splitting hairs. If you're a Londoner, you surely understand the differences between them.

I have several working for me and yes I do understand the differences between them,but unlike you,I also know the similarities. :-)

The bottom line is that there is a big difference in the socio-economic and social integration of Indians in the UK compared to Pakistanis or Bangladeshis.

That is very true but not for the ones that work for me.
And BTW,they all get on fine!

Well said, Ms Atch.

By the by, the 1st of March is approaching fast. Any new thoughts on the bright future that is awaiting the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland beyond that date?

Hello Ziemowit my dear. How are you me old mucker ? :) It's actually 29 March that's the cut off point and at this stage, it's anyone's guess. Things are really not looking good for them, but also they've made a terrible mess for Ireland as well. Fortunately we don't have the political chaos that they're experiencing but nonetheless, it's a very bad outcome for us.

Another walking encyclopedia in action...

Ignorance, genius, is 2+2=5. That's ignorance. Brits are morons is an opinion. Brits are actually super-morons because they gave a billion people the right to immigrate as citizens who cannot be deported no matter how badly they will behave. This makes my opinion a brilliant one. To which you have no argument except "you are trolling".

Guess what, genius, everybody who posts opinions is trolling. Like, oh look, nothing bad happened - that's trolling.

Would the Brits like another 10 million Indians if they are so nice? How about 20 millions? Too many? You are a racist!

More of the trolling. Super trolling or brilliant trolling this time?

I think you need to read the immigration laws. Where did you get that impression from? There is no automatic right to live in the UK for people from the Indian subcontinent, nor has then been for about fifty years.


What bad behaviour are you talking about? Indians are far less likely to be involved in any criminal activities than their white peers.

Percental? Do you have a link?

Quoting:

The Act created the new status of "citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies" (CUKC) for people born or naturalised in either the United Kingdom or one of its colonies.

Yeah, that was brilliant.


So what? Would you like 10 million more of well behaving Indians? No? You are a racist!

If Atch is only talking about Indians,she is probably right,just.
But if she is talking about South Asians then she is badly wrong.

Indians are those who are being discussed, so yes, I'm talking about Indians and I'm right, not probably right. You don't know the figures for "South Asians" because the Home Office doesn't break crimes down by ethnicity of the perpatrators (not publicly anyway) so you wouldn't be able to access that information. So you're speculating. However we do know that about a third of the population of British prisons is black or other ethnic minorities but that black accounts for the largest chunk of that ethnic minority. Indians are one of the most successful, highly achieving and law abiding communities in the UK.