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Are the English going to lose Great Britain ?



Miloslaw
7 Feb 2019  #31

Oi...I didn't know May had once been a Remainer!

She still is....and that is The UK's problem....

Bratwurst Boy
7 Feb 2019  #32

She hides that very well though....

Miloslaw
7 Feb 2019  #33

I'm not sure she does.
She tries very hard to be fair to the leave voters whilst still respecting the remain voters.
I just don't think that has worked with The EU,they all knew she was/is a remainer and have used it ro their advantage.

It is now down to who blinks first.....nobody wants a no deal,so the pressure is now on both sides to get one.
But at the moment,I can still see no deal happening.

Rich Mazur
7 Feb 2019  #34

Europe's "free riding" is what has allowed the U.S. to become the world's only unquestioned superpower.

That's dumbest argument ever. Let me guess: you are a liberal, right?
OK, genius, when was it last time Europe offered the US a relief? When you are sliding, riding, and ducking, an adult has to pick up the slack. And, don't forget that 22 trillion debt. Would you like to estimate how much of it is from supporting deadbeat Europe?

However, let me remind you that European sanctions against Russia have been imposed for 4 years now.

I am letting you to remind me. Go for it. While you are in that remind mode, include all the sweet deals EU has with those bad and oh so aggressive Russians.

So, go for it and tell me what the bad Russians did and what are those sanctions. I am waiting.

pawian
8 Feb 2019  #35

That's dumbest argument ever.

Yes, we can see you are running out of arguments. Did you have a bad day?

Let me guess: you are a liberal, right?

And what logical importance does it have to our discourse? Are you going to ask me if I am wearing trousers or shorts next time?

when was it last time Europe offered the US a relief?

Quite a few times and in crucial moments, e.g, when the USA decided to start wars in Iraq and elsewhere. The US President could proudly announce that they are aided by allies, including Poland, instead of acting as a freelance world`s policeman again.

So, go for it and tell me what the bad Russians did and what are those sanctions. I am

No, stop being so childish. Google it for yourself. Funny, I have mostly only read about Russian trolls on the net but so far haven`t met one.

Rich Mazur
8 Feb 2019  #36

No, stop being so childish. Google it for yourself.

You claim, you support your claim. The anti-Russian haters pull out all kinds of things from their rectums. Which one did you? You tell me.

My question if you are a liberal is critical. If you are, we are done as liberals are not capable of dealing with facts and the A therefore B kind of logic.

Example: only an idiot would claim that a welfare beneficiary - Europe - did the benefactor - the US - a favor because the US became as strong as it did while protecting the weak beneficiary.

Don't insult me with that Iraq nonsense. All those metoos, like Poland, were window decorations. Instead of going to Iraq, which meant absolutely nothing, Europe should have assumed FULL financial responsibility for protecting ITSELF way before. I know, riding the American backs is cheaper and more fun.

pawian
8 Feb 2019  #37

My question if you are a liberal is critical. If you are, we are done as liberals are not capable of dealing with facts and the A therefore B kind of logic.

Actually, it is pointless whether I am a liberal or not. And I don`t care what I am or what you think I am. So, please, stop asking silly questions, you are losing time, mine and yours.

More important is that YOU sound like a typical anti-European pro-Russian propaganda troll. It seems they have sent not too clever one to this forum if it was enough to read a few dozen posts of yours to realise the fact. Do you/they really think that Poles are so dumb? You might trick foreigners, but not a Polish person.

Miloslaw
8 Feb 2019  #38

Actually, it is pointless whether I am a liberal or not

But you are and it's not pointless.
The fact is that you are a weak liberal.
Rich is the opposite to you.
He is honest,brutally so.

pawian
8 Feb 2019  #39

But you are and it's not pointless.

It is funny how certain guys have to attach labels. It seems you can`t function properly without them. Does it really make you feel at peace? Well, if it calms you and Mazur down, go ahead, I don`t mind.

The fact is that you are a weak liberal.

Thanks, that`s nice.

Really, it is unbelievable. Coming back to the fourm, I expected a nice exchange of logical arguments with intelligent partners, but I can`t stop being asked by halfwits what I am .

He is honest,brutally so.

Yes, honest troll. Funny.

Miloslaw
8 Feb 2019  #40

Coming back to the fourm, I expected a nice exchange of logical arguments

Maybe you should have stayed away...times and opinions have changed.
Weak Liberals are no longer respected.

pawian
8 Feb 2019  #41

You claim, you support your claim. The anti-Russian haters pull out all kinds of things from their rectums. Which one did you? You tell me.

I didn`t claim anything. I just stated a well known fact that Russia has had European sanctions imposed on her for 4 years now. You asked a silly question why and I told you to google it. Isn`t it simple?

Maybe you should have stayed away..

No, now my mission is to fight anti European Russian propaganda. I will give you both hard time. :)

Rich Mazur
8 Feb 2019  #42

Weak Liberals are no longer respected.

I am willing to plug up my nose and debate even the weak ones as long as they admit what they are, state their case clearly, and don't use oil and those weasel hedge words.

pawian
8 Feb 2019  #43

My question if you are a liberal is critical. If you are, we are done

I am willing to plug up my nose and debate even the weak ones

Why are you so inconsequent?

dolnoslask
8 Feb 2019  #44

It's his age, like me, he probably needs go pi$$ two times a night

pawian
8 Feb 2019  #45

In my first post I mentioned articles from 2018 commenting on the possible disintegration of the UK after hard Brexit. Here is even an older one which points to one thing I have never read before: the loss of European subsidies for Northern Ireland.

But it wouldn`t be a problem for the English to make up for their losses so I suppose it doesn`t really matter. .

newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/07/brexit-beginning-end-northern-ireland

Back in March, Northern Ireland's Department of Enterprise, Trade and Investment calculated that the risks of Brexit would be much more serious for Northern Ireland than the rest of Britain. Whereas Britain's economic losses will be measured in the region of 0.1-4 per cent of GDP, for Northern Ireland that increases to up to 5.6 per cent.

In short, if Britain catches a cold by leaving the EU, Northern Ireland will get flu. Even if Theresa May eventually manages to negotiate ongoing single market access, the loss of agricultural subsidies and regeneration cash will be an unmanageable burden for the fragile cross-community executive to deal with.


Paulina
8 Feb 2019  #46

Coming back to the fourm, I expected a nice exchange of logical arguments with intelligent partners

Are you serious? lol Pawian, it's really nice to see you, but this forum is even worse now than it used to be. That's one of the reasons I'm staying away from this place. It has really become a mental asylum. There's at least three Polish-American sociopaths on PF now and one peado-psychopath convicted of grooming a 12-year-old on the internet who's calling breastless children "sluts" and who wanted to take part in human trafficking of young girls and to make a child p0rn site. He also lied that I told him that I'm on a p0rn site lol I was also informed that he made some f*cked up threads about me lately. You couldn't make this sh1t up. This is what this forum has become. I have only one word for this place right now and it's kloaka.

Why are you so inconsequent?

You better get used to that if you want to stay on this God forsaken forum lol And to his amnesia/dementia problems, among all kinds of other things that are wrong with him.

I will give you both hard time. :)

As much as I would like to see some asses kicked on here, I don't think it's worth it. It's better to stay away and keep your sanity. Whenever I make a longer break from PF I get almost surprised that there are good, decent, normal people out there lol Rediscovering that gives you a very nice feeling, I recommend it to all the keyboard warriors stuck on here :)

Rich Mazur
8 Feb 2019  #47

there are good, decent, normal people

It's the good, decent, normal people that passively watch women in Europe raped and do nothing. Even from the safety of a forum like this one, never a bit of anger at the perps and the perp enablers. All they have is explanations.

Historically, the good, decent, normal people are the first to be become the ruling classes' useful idiots.

pawian
8 Feb 2019  #48

the place is mainly full of midges.

Yes, those midges are infamous, indeed, but it seems some English are really connected emotionally with Scotland.

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/15/nationalism-scotland-redefine-englishness-britain-england
Like a lot of English families, there's a deep, romantic attachment to Scotland in our household with plenty of photographic evidence of how the place has shaped our sense of family. It was the same in my childhood, all our holidays were in the Highlands. This streak of diluted diaspora romanticism goes even further back to my much loved grandfather, a Farquharson, born in Southampton. It's absurd, but on my last visit to Edinburgh I bought Farquharson souvenirs for all the kids; I want them to feel the connection - they are part Scottish, I tell them, as I was always told.

Paulina
8 Feb 2019  #49

It's the good, decent, normal people that passively watch women in Europe raped and do nothing.

Sorry, Rich, but I've noticed that the same men who get all worked up about "Mooslims" raping white European women downplay or discard entirely the rapist peado problem in the Catholic Church or rape problem on American college campuses, in the military, etc. Women (and children) are "lying" then, you see. You said so yourself. We have "lying in our genes", right, a$$hole?

So, cry me a river, right-wing hypocrites. You're no better than those liberals who call for tolerance and who make prejudiced comments against Poles (and some others) at the same.

delphiandomine
8 Feb 2019  #50

It has really become a mental asylum.

It's almost completely ceased to have any connection with Poland.

Paulina
8 Feb 2019  #51

No sh1t, delph... lol I guess Poland isn't interesting enough for our American posters...

delphiandomine
8 Feb 2019  #52

The funniest thing is that Poland has been incredibly interesting for the last week or so, but I guess someone kissing a dog just isn't interesting enough, not compared to endless rants about Muslims in Germany.

Dougpol1
8 Feb 2019  #53

You're no better than those liberals who call for tolerance and who make prejudiced comments against Poles

It might have escaped your notice that this poster at least criticises his own shower of idiots just as much as the wrong-doings here in this neck of the woods. It is the right-wing lesser spotted Pole who is unable to accept any points of order, and so the merry-go-round keeps on turning.

pawian
8 Feb 2019  #54

lol Pawian, it's really nice to see you,

Hi, great to read you, too, nice you still remember me after 3 years. :)

but this forum is even worse now than it used to be.

You think so? No, it is just different because life goes on and people change. But it has always required strong psyche. :):)
One more thing: in the past I didn`t realise the presence of professional trolls with an anti-European, anti-Western agenda, I thought that some narrow-minded guys were just narrow-minded. Today I know they all are connected with the Kremlin propaganda and aim at weakening the western world. We mustn`t allow them to do it freely as long as we consider Poland belongs to this world.

It's the good, decent, normal people that passively watch women in Europe raped and do nothing.

Oh, come on, stop trolling.

delphiandomine
8 Feb 2019  #55

Today I know they all are connected with the Kremlin propaganda and aim at weakening the western world.

It is genuinely frightening as to how much Kremlin-backed propaganda is repeated by the Polonia in the US as well as by right wingers in Poland. I discovered recently that there's a member (or at least, someone claiming to be a member) of the Zamoyski family pushing a huge amount of clearly Russian-originated propaganda online - even to the point where she's reposting articles by Sputnik News.

Rich Mazur
8 Feb 2019  #56

downplay or discard entirely the rapist peado problem in the Catholic Church or rape problem on American college campuses, in the military, etc.

Straw man. Other than the sick bastards in the Catholic Church and the Vatican, nobody is downplaying anything. Only in your imagination.
The difference between the common rapes and the Swedish kind is that the common rapes are not preventable. Only punishable AFTER they occur. The Euro-style rapes, like in Sweden, are by invitation.

After they occur, your sick governments do everything in their power to hide them. And, when the stats are out and damning, what do you, a-holes, do? Invite some more migrants and refugees.

Ironside
8 Feb 2019  #57

Huh? Pawian what are you even talking about? Why because they leave the EU? lol!

Oh my what they gonna do without genius such like Tusk, Junkier and that other clown? Get real!

pawian
9 Feb 2019  #58

You too? On one side you have geniuses you mentioned, on the other Putin and company. Sorry, I have made my choice.

Ironside
9 Feb 2019  #59

you have geniuses you mentioned, on the other Putin and company.

Hmm ..not wonder you side with geniuses like them, you clearly belong in their company.

What is it with that false dichotomy of yours? The Eu standing up to Putin? What with their fancy sharpened pencils?

So far the NATO i.e. the USA is protecting Europe. Those are hard facts not some fancy play on words your kind is so in love with.

pawian
9 Feb 2019  #60

NATO is good for preventing a full scale conflict with Russia. However, there are less drastic conflicts possible, then NATO is useless.


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