European News and Poland Thread 2

I have no idea what you think....that's why I'm asking....you are constantly putting statements up, without any reasoning I might add...I just want to know how you come to these conclusions!

You work for a state - your paycheck comes from taxes ( a state), right?
The reason I ask - it obvious economy and competition are an abstract concept for you.

By observing effects of the EU on Poland economy. They are not all bad but those good effects are down to people who are doing their best. Not to EU money that don't go into peoples wallet.

Quite the opposite the EU ideas forced on countries like green gówno already effect in rise of electricity costs. That is only a start.

Nobody gives me any moneyfor free, I have to work hard and pay high taxes and I make less that someone in Germany or France.

I have been to those countries they are not better, they are not wrok harder, they don't have a magic in a little finger.

All they have a better, established economy that works ( less and less I must say) for them but not for foreign countries.
If the EU country is a foreign country for them - you- your companies should be foreign for Poland as well. Should be treated as such and cut to size if they undercut Polish firms. As you do in your country.

That will surprise you but that "pay gap" exist even in Germany between the old East and West-Germany....the reason for that is the same....40 years communism and the consequential re-building of the whole economy afterwards.

It takes alot longer to close that gap than formerly thought....but even inside rich and affluent West-Germany there are poorer regions where work is harder to find and is less well paid...so people move.

And usually it are polish firms who undercut german firms....Poland still has lower labor costs (thats why you don't earn as much as a west german worker), but thanks to that they can offer cheaper costs and higher profits. The german offer/product/service will always be more expensive for the customer, so the polish offer/product/service will have better chances to be bought....pure market economy!

Foreign companies still have to operate in accordance with Polish law, correct? If so, what makes being a foreign company operating domestically in Poland more advantageous than a domestic Polish company operating in Poland?

How does this relate to sending profits back home?

Look that is pointless. You won't understand where I came from. From your USA perspective.
Do you even know what hoops foreign firms have to go throught to operate on USA market>?
I don't know that much about it but know enough to know it is not that that easy.


The EU fixed that one for you. No more.

How exactly did she do that?

My aim is to learn. I'm trying to understand where you are coming from. Trying to understand what the perceived problem of transferring profits is. I've heard this complaint from other Poles and have never gotten a cogent answer or most of it is simply a misperception of how things work.

But none of it is personal-I don't post to get into personal attacks on the internet. Trust me on that one b


I do. It's not super easy, but it's also not super difficult. With a lawyer (which I'd suggest any partnership or corp hire) setting up one is a breeze...costs but worth the dough.

But, again, none of this answers the question of why transferring profits is a problem or exploitative.

I admire your ability to pretend.

I've always wanted to make a living writing fiction, but, in this case, I'm not pretending. Maybe I'm missing something.

Europe would become interesting place when Serbia tackle Germany over Lusatia and then Russia and Poland are forced to follow. See, Serbs are famous for creating this kind of situations. We just follow our own interests and then other Slavs realize how our interests perfectly overlap with their own. Especially when they think of prospects of Serbs being destroyed, they react to support us.

Without Serbs Europe would be boring place. Everything would be clear and decided. Serbs bringing hope to good and despair to evil. They bringing balance among Slavs and dis-balance in Europe. Let Serbs do their role and Europe is dominated by Slavs. No, not just dominated. Europe becoming part of Slavic world. Whole of Europe. Pax Slavica.

Oi šermukšnio

> youtube.com/watch?v=MO-9l29RzrE

It sounds like youre starting to cause trouble again and the Germans or NATO will not put up with your crap either. Thats if anything you claim is true.


Actually, most ppl have never heard of Serbia except for its genocide. So ya, youre famous alright!

War-mongering neanderthals is all you are.

Kinda amusing to read Crows posts when you remember how pathetic Serbia's military record actually is. They got crushed and or conquered in pretty much every war they fought in, being only saved by others who wanted to use them as buffers. Their country is so poor that not even Montenegro wanted to remain a part of it and its people are emigrating north when given the chance.

Because of the EU system. I keep telling you and you just don't get it.
Poland gets those money from the EU everybody is talking about. About 20-30% of those money are Polish money(Poland send some money to the EU).

Those EU money have a string attached - they need to be spend on specific things the EU need to aprove. That is not all - they say you need this money to build this - OK but you need to use - brick, machine or whatever according to this specification.

As it happence such a brick, machine or whatever a German handy firm has ready, just hire them and all is nice.

Aha and for every EU financed 'thing' Poland need to add 50% of the cost of that project. Often that Polish 50% are money borrowed in a German bank but not it is not must.

Now - exploitation part - just rough calculations - Poland gets from the EU about 15 mld Euro ( forget that 20% of that sum came from Poland anyway) 70% of that sum go back to Germany 10mld euro, the other half of any project another 10 mld euro - they get 20 mld euro a year just from Poland's use of the EU founds.

Poland gets about 5 mld euro a year and a new road. Good deal.


Oh really? Give back 20 mld euro for the last 17 years and we can talk.

I read your post and it is compelling. I would never know these numbers but I know human nature and what motivates people.
So, even without the numbers you quoted, it doesn't take a financial genius to conclude that Poland is already paying for those EU gifts or will be paying for them soon.

There is no Santa.

Hardly a surprise, given the scale of corruption here. If things were not so tightly controlled, it would all end up in private bank accounts.

...because you never put any reasoning behind your statements. Repeating these slogans just isn't the same.

You should try it...really!


See? No factual arguments at all....how do you plan on convincing anybody with that?

Why? Is it written in the funds transfer contract???

What is all this arguing about? That the giver benefits from "giving"? Are you all children?
Some things are self-evident and don't require elaborate analysis.

@Cojestdocholery
@Novichok

The EU is a bastard organisation that pretends to be about creating a US of E when really it is only there to benefit Germany.

Germany will control the US of E.
That is why Britain left.

Yes, Cojest seems one coz he is complaining that some part of the funds that Poland receives from the EU is spent on buying stuff from EU countries, e.g., Germany. The problem is that Poland isn `t self-sufficient like North Korea and has to import technology, machinery and resources.

All "gifts" come back, so to speak, in the form of taxes!
Even I, barely a first-year acc'ting. student in college knows that:-)

Well...if that was the reason don't you think Britain would have a much better chance to destroy that bastard from the inside?

What was that leaving then, a declaration of defeat? The white flag??? :)

My hat goes off to them for being able to pull this scam off. I am so sick of the stupid that now I sympathize with the perps.


I wish you the very best. Breaking ranks with the stupid sheep is not easy or painless but sometimes it has to be done - like cutting out a tumor.

No.Because Britain tried and were not listened to.
The smaller nations were in awe of Germany and always sided with them, never siding with the rebellious Brits.
They knew which side their bread was buttered on.....self interest is a game that Germany knows how to play to win.
Britain had no chance within the EU.
Better to be out of it.

What now....super clever and taking over the world (Europe first) or stupid sheep? What is it?

You know what this Racow thinks about them? Listen dobra budalo. They will finish like madman Murad II and Ferdinand. They wanted piece of us, they died.

ŽAS - Sarmatia HD

youtu.be/eXK6IbeLwbw

To the golden freedom of Poland and Serbia in a New Commonwealth! OUR Commonwealth!

We feel no fear and we shall refuse foreign rule! Any form of foreign rule

So....defeat!

And don't let that hear the Frenchies....they are totally sure that they lead the EU! :)

Which analogy would you like more - the USSR in 1989 or the Titanic? Or medical...Getting transfusion from a guy with AIDS...
Poland and Hungary saw the donor and said hell no way.

Did they leave too?