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Strzelec35
9 Nov 2021  #1291

I bet you most of the goo girls or **** stars in germany (seems like a huge industry to me) are Polish christians (and some mix of romanians or gypsy women).

Novichok
9 Nov 2021  #1292

That film of the bordere guards deserves to be seen far and wide.

Why? Do you actually know who and what you are other than a foreign and hostile implant Poland would be better off without?

Paulina
9 Nov 2021  #1293

If you think christian nations are so superior

You're an idiot. You clearly don't understand why I wrote what I wrote. I meant that as Christians Poles have a duty to live up to certain standards of behaviour towards their fellow human beings.

Novichok
9 Nov 2021  #1294

towards their fellow human beings.

How many human beings? There are approximately 7 billion of them. Also, who gets Polish goodies first?

Paulina
9 Nov 2021  #1295

@Novichok, those migrants who crossed Polish border become Poland's responsibility. There are laws in place which state what should be done with people who crossed Polish border illegally and how they should be treated. Some basic human decency wouldn't hurt either. It really isn't that complicated.

jon357
9 Nov 2021  #1296

Some basic human decency wouldn't hurt either. It really isn't that complicated.

There is none in that film, sadly.

The clip is 'going viral' and it reflects very badly on the border guards. And yes, they've confirmed it's real.
wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114883,27772605,wstrzasajace-nagranie-z-granicy-sg-potwierdza-autentycznosc.html

a foreign and hostile implant Poland would be better off without?

Says an immigrant shunned by all around him.

Novichok
9 Nov 2021  #1297

those migrants who crossed Polish border become Poland's responsibility.

That is why Poland should never, ever let the scum set foot on its soil and skunk spray them when they are still on the other side. If Poland is as stupid as the US, then Poles can say goodbye to Poland as they know it - just as we already did here to the US.

Did you know that those migrants have dozens of other family members each - all packed up and ready to join them?
Like I said, this forum only confirms that no race is as intelligent and as stupid as whites - both at the same time. Like an autistic kid...

Says an immigrant shunned by all around him.

No American ever shunned me. At least I know what and who I am and where my undivided loyalty lies. You are just another stateless Euro migrant.

A quick test: Poland vs England, whose side are you on?

jon357
9 Nov 2021  #1298

There are laws in place which state what should be done with people who crossed Polish border illegally and how they should be treated.

The video looks like it was shot on a mobile phone and of course it's hard to see what is happening off-camera, as the spokeswoman for the border guards said. Nevertheless, the guards don't appear to be diffusing the situation well.

It isn't any way to treat women and children and it's very hard to believe from that video that they are following any procedures, especially given that the woman and children in the clip are already traumatised.

This situation appears to be escalating, and increasing the number of military on the border is playing into Lukashenka's hands exactly as he wants it to. Sooner or later (perhaps this week) he will almost certainly escalate the situation.

Novichok
9 Nov 2021  #1299

It isn't any way to treat women and children.

When a woman exposes a child to danger, she is committing a felony.

Novichok
9 Nov 2021  #1300

This situation appears to be escalating, and increasing the number of military on the border is playing into Lukashenka's hands

Why is everybody playing a reporter here? How about saying what you want done and why?

especially given that the woman and children in the clip are already traumatised.

BS. Poles didn't go to traumatize them. They came to Poland voluntarily to get what was coming to them. Plus they can always say oops and step back away from the border and trauma.

amiga500
9 Nov 2021  #1301

How the worm turns. In 2015 when Orban built a razor wire fence it was considered fascist, racist and un-european. Now Manfred Weber, head of the European People's Party in the European Parliament, (which PO is a member) is calling for the EU to fund border walls to protect Europe from the migrant wave.

"Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan extortion attempts regarding the Greek-Turkish EU external border could only be stopped when the border fence virtually prevented unauthorized crossings. The same now applies to the eastern border," Weber said.

"We do not understand why the European Union cannot fund a fence on the Belarusian border. There is a hybrid war and we must not be naive. Lithuania, Latvia and others deserve our full support, including support for border fencing!" Weber wrote.

Of course the lilly livered kraut could not mention Poland because of Tusk and PO, who do not support building a border wall at present. Well Tusk does, but the younger PO Posels who are fake new left, are against it.

GefreiterKania
9 Nov 2021  #1302

For what it's worth i reported him

Proper order. *thumbs up!*

Here's the instructions that migrants receive from Belarussian forces on how to use children in storming the border...

StZaryn

... "use children, hug them, look dirty, look tired".

Strzelec35
9 Nov 2021  #1303

This could be Ukraine all over again and now Putin is trying to escalate something between belarus and poland as a pretext to use russian military and weapons and start a war a local not global war in proxy between poland and russia like ukraine and donbas?

GefreiterKania
9 Nov 2021  #1304

This could be Ukraine all over again

The difference is that Poland is in NATO. Putin is an old KGB-ist, he knows how far he can go.

Strzelec35
9 Nov 2021  #1305

yea but biden wont do anything and already pledged isolationism and nato in europe like germany has no military. germany has like barely any tanks and may not even fight for poland.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2021  #1306

... "use children, hug them, look dirty, look tired".

.....even better with cameras on them, I bet!

What a dirty game.....I wish Weber would be in place instead of Von der Leyen....the EU would surely pay for a real border!

The difference is that Poland is in NATO.

*nods*

And NATO actually offered help already, it's Warsaw which doesn't want any....

yea but biden wont do anything

It's not only the US in NATO, you know....and it is a european problem....we don't need Biden!

Maybe it's time to test our Common Security and Defence Policy!

The Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP) is the European Union's (EU) course of action in the fields of defence and crisis management, and a main component of the EU's Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Security_and_Defence_Policy

Manpower
Active personnel 1,410,626 (2016)[1]
Reserve personnel 2,330,803

GefreiterKania
9 Nov 2021  #1307

And NATO actually offered help already, it's Warsaw which doesn't want any...

PiS should swallow their pride and accept help.

12th Mechanized Division soldiers were already attacked with tear gas - if Belarussians give migrants proper weapons, instead of gas and fence destroying tools, then things might get nasty - for example when professional army is rotated by amateur Territorial Defence, which will happen sooner or later - 8000 of them have been called to the border.

What a mess... :-/

P.S. What Gemany could do is to threaten the definitive closure of NS2 project, if Putin doesn't call off his dog. It is now more than obvious that he supports Lucuntshenka in this hybrid war. It is rather unlikely though, seeing as even the occupation and proper war against Ukraine didn't stop this "work of genious" project.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2021  #1308

What Gemany could do is to threaten the definitive closure of NS2 project, if Putin doesn't call off his dog.

I'm not sure how bad this situation must become before the SPD would go that far.....the GREENS would be faster with that but I wouldn't build on that.

I would count more on real tough sanctions....when the EU freezes all of L's assets and support now Putin will notice that too!

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2021  #1309

Just read (Süddeutsche Zeitung SZ) that every wannabe-immigrant had to deposit 3000 Dollar in Minsk to secure his passage back if necessary!

Unbelievable if true...has somebody heard more about that?

GefreiterKania
9 Nov 2021  #1310

Polish press also reported on Belarus accepting payments from migrants but without giving exact amount of money. That makes Lucuntshenka not only an international terrorist, but also officialy paid human trafficker.

If drastic santctions are not introduced now, it will be preposterous.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2021  #1311

I'm sure he will pay for all that....everybody and his grandmom is meanwhile crying for stricter sanctions!

Crnogorac3
9 Nov 2021  #1312

NATO actually offered help already

Lukashenko did not create refugees, but NATO and NATO member states should receive those refugees.

youtu.be/FuUBAxPCUls

I would personally bring them all to Brussels to NATO headquarters because it destroyed their countries!

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2021  #1313

That doesn't explain why they all want to go to Germany.....Germany destroyed nobodies countries....it wasn't even part of the Iraq war and only peace keeping in Afghanistan....that doesn't wash!

Why not deliver them to Washington if you are for real!

GefreiterKania
9 Nov 2021  #1314

They don't have the balls. A bunch of cowards; primary school bullies - only brave enough against those whom they consider weak. They will, however, face a surprise. :)

Crnogorac3
9 Nov 2021  #1315

It doesn't matter at all by which means of transport the migrants came to the Polish border, the important thing is probably that the migrants are enthusiastic about Western democracy and want to get asylum. The EU now needs to show humanity and receive those people whose homelands they destroyed by bombing.

GefreiterKania
9 Nov 2021  #1316

Sure. Whenever Russia receives all the Syrian immigrants whose country was destroyed by their defence of criminal Assad regime. Poland has shown a lot of humanity, accommodating over 2 million of Ukrainians, fleeing from the country attacked by their Russian "Slavic brothers".

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2021  #1317

The EU now needs to show humanity and receive those people whose homelands they destroyed by bombing.

Repeating that nonsense doesn't make it better....

Whenever Russia receives all the Syrian immigrants whose country was destroyed by their defence of criminal Assad regime.

Then there is that...without Russias help for Assad Syria might have been today a free country worth living in....zero refugees!

Bratwurst Boy
9 Nov 2021  #1318

Things are looking up....maybe faster as feared.....the SPIEGEL reports now:

(google translate)

....In view of the increasing numbers of migrants at Poland's external EU border, Brussels is working flat out on new sanctions instruments against airlines and other parties involved in illegal smuggling activities. According to diplomats, the permanent representatives of the governments of the EU countries want to initiate an expansion of the current sanctions regime this Wednesday. It could already be officially decided at the meeting of EU foreign ministers next Monday.

spiegel.de/ausland/fluechtlingsstreit-zwischen-belarus-und-polen-eu-will-sanktionen-beschliessen-a-c07391d6-d8a0-4400-9929-f28a19c485e3

...The move should make it possible, among other things, to force companies based in the EU to cease all business relationships with the Belarusian airline Belavia with immediate effect. One of the consequences of this would be that aircraft leasing companies would have to reclaim aircraft lent to the airline. In addition, tour operators and airlines from third countries could also be targeted....

That should companies make think twice about working for L....

GefreiterKania
9 Nov 2021  #1319

Great news! :)

Crnogorac3
9 Nov 2021  #1320

Why not deliver them to Washington if you are for real!

Sure, send them all to Washington, London and Brussels, these are the centers that are burning, looting & pillaging around the world and causing such catastrophes!

Now let's see the respect for human rights by the EU. It doesn't matter what means of transport migrants came to the EU border, but the important thing is that they have left their homes and want to join the EU, NATO bombed the hell out and destroyed their homelands. Is it a fight for human rights, is it a democracy imposed by bombs?


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