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jon357
4 Jul 2024  #1201

the treat is clearly not fit for purpose

It was formulated in a different age, however party politics and grumbling aren't going to change that any time soon.

Sunak may have been the least terrible one of them

All equally bad, though Boris was sound on Ukraine.some of us have never voted for that party, nor lived in a constituency they held. Unfortunately, floating voters often fear change, and are bombarded with propaganda about hating people (trannies, refugees, whatever) and focus on that, like a modern day village witch burning, rather than doing something about the people who are making serious money out of their lives while the6 get poorer and who are distracting the, with all this shít.

It's nights like this that all those years of monthly subs, buying raffle tickets, delivering leaflets etc feel worthwhile...

Time for change.



Novichok
4 Jul 2024  #1202

The election is not about your issues with gender.

Yes, it is if you want to elect women. Then you have to know how to define one.
Like when you want a boyfriend you have to be able to know how to define "a boy".

Miloslaw
4 Jul 2024  #1203

Yes, it is if you want to elect women. Then you have to know how to define one

Yeah, we have the same problem in the UK, our new PM elect, Keir Starmer cannot rule out women with penises.
In other words, he thinks some women can have penises........how nuts is that?

Novichok
5 Jul 2024  #1204

In other words, he thinks some women can have penises...

Hey, jon, did you read Milo's post?

Do you think if some women can have penises?

On the other hand, why should you care? Man...woman...it should be the same for a gay man if he is "the husband".

jon357
5 Jul 2024  #1205

Boring.

On such a night for celebration!

Novichok
5 Jul 2024  #1206

Boring.

What's a woman?

mafketis
5 Jul 2024  #1207

he thinks some women can have penises........how nuts is that?

As the old jokes goes.... most women can have as many as they want.... for a short time at any rate....

Anyhoo, a woman is a sexually mature member of the species homo sapiens that has the anatomy to produce large gametes....

A politician who lies about that is liable to lie about other things as well....

wslipach
5 Jul 2024  #1208

[Moved from]: New POlish hero : Junkfood Tusk! Thank you for German War Reparations Tusk!

McDonald just busted the ceiling with new deal. This motherfaking Scottish royalty and his ethnic brother in arms Deutsche Shayse finally spoke from the bottom of their assses and farted all over Poland saying "kiss my wrinkly german asss". Hey Poles we gave you lidl and mercedes so be happy. Reparations saga is officially over.

jon357
5 Jul 2024  #1209

lie about other things as well....

They all lie, and in any case concepts around gender are changing. Not that fixations on gender are at all relevant to this thread or to European politics.

What a great result, and bye bye conservatives. It's nice to see the map turn red.

And good that the Greens, 'reform' and Galloway's party have fewer than ten seats between them. That means they can be up and down like jack-in-the boxes and not be called to speak in parliament.

I notice that Micron's official "congratulations" were curmudgeonly. He must be green with envy right now.

Ironside
5 Jul 2024  #1210

Most people evidently care about jobs,

No, about 50% of people voting for the Labour voted on them because they wanted to eliminate the Tories. That is a fact.
As Vincent said Labour is not about jobs and the economy but about gender laws, LGBT nonsense and progressivism.
The people will find it the hard way.
It is like in Poland people voted for Tusk and PO because they got enough of PiS but at least PiS delivered economically while Tories F it up for majority.
Well, PO will F! it up for the majority in Poland. What will the Labour do- we see.
There is hope with the Reform party that if people finally will get some new faces who will represent their interests it is always good to see.
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Sunak may have been the least terrible one of them

Really? He was the British answer to Macron but with a tan. Then I guess you like Macron, don't you?

jon357
5 Jul 2024  #1211

No, about 50% of people voting for the Labour voted on them because they wanted to eliminate the Tories

Yes, because we wanted to eliminate 5he Tories and have a government for the many, not the few.

is not about jobs and the economy but about gender laws, LGBT nonsense and progressivism

People voted for a party which is, in its constitution, Democratic Socialism, the most progressive of all the parties.

Tusk and PO

Centre right. We chose the Left.

Torq
5 Jul 2024  #1212

Wait a minute... the Labour (Work)? Democratic Socialism? That rings a bell...

... so what would the name be in German: Sozialistische Demokratische Arbeiterpartei?

mafketis
5 Jul 2024  #1213

concepts around gender are changing

Sex categories are about reproduction which is not changing anytime soon.... the whole reason for sexual activity is reproduction (physical and emotional pleasure and non-reproductive sex acts are fine and wonderful but they are secondary benefits) and reproduction for human beings require gametes, of which there are two.

Males produce small gametes and females produce large gametes.... if a person has ever produced small gametes their body cannot be changed to produce large gametes...

That a prime minister of a G8 country pretends this is not the case is.... not good and makes me mistrust everything else he might plan on doing.

amiga500
5 Jul 2024  #1214

have a government for the many, not the few.

I think you have smoked too much weed and gone back to the future, it's Starmer that got elected not Corbyn, that was his line. :)
for a party which is, in its constitution, Democratic Socialism, the most progressive of all the parties.

I thought all that stuff in the Labour constitution about public ownership et all was removed by Blair before he got elected?

jon357
5 Jul 2024  #1215

it's Starmer that got elected not Corbyn, that was his line

No, Corbyn was quoting from the party rule book. Anyway, Starmer didn't get elected, Corbyn didn't get elected. Labour got elected. It's the same party and has been for decades through leadership and front bench changes. It's by far the largest party in terms of grassroots members in the U.K. I've been a member for most of my life.

removed by Blair before he got elected?

You're thinking of the change to Clause 4 of the party constitution. It went from:

"To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each ..."

to:

"The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few, where the rights we enjoy reflect the duties we owe, and where we live together, freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance and respect."

You'll see that it contains the words "in the hands of the many, not the few".

pawian
5 Jul 2024  #1216

can't seem to define a woman as well.

It isn`t my problem. I don`t live according to definitions. I prefer the golden rule: Live and let live.

Novichok
5 Jul 2024  #1217

Why do men know how to find a woman but can't define what a woman is?
I can tell you, azholes, what a woman is not.

A wig, lipstick, and fake tits on a gender-confused moron is not a woman.

So what is a woman, fagot and Lyzko?

pawian
5 Jul 2024  #1218

can't define

Why can`t you live without definitions???

mafketis
5 Jul 2024  #1219

Reconcile that with...

Check your dictionaries.

Anyhoo, a woman is an adult human female (adult = sexually mature, human = homo sapiens, female = has anatomy for the production of large gametes)

Also...

sjp.pwn.pl/slowniki/kobieta.html

pawian
5 Jul 2024  #1220

Reconcile

Hey, mental loser, it was you who joined the group of other mental losers obsessed with the definition of uprising. Get lost where you belong which means the dumpsite of history.

mafketis
5 Jul 2024  #1221

Hey, mental loser,

Ale cham.....

pawian
5 Jul 2024  #1222

Cham to Ciebie zrobił. And he made a big mistake! Ha!

Torq
5 Jul 2024  #1223

Cham to Ciebie zrobił.

He, he - widzę, że podłapujesz moje oldskulowe teksty. :)

mafketis
5 Jul 2024  #1224

he made a big mistake! Ha!

the way you immediately personally insult anyone who disagrees with you is off-putting...

if you can't define words, how can you even teach?

clarity of mind is a virtue... blindly following trends is not.

Miloslaw
5 Jul 2024  #1225

the way you immediately personally insult anyone who disagrees with you is off-putting..

Great post!

if you can't define words, how can you even teach?

So true!

clarity of mind is a virtue... blindly following trends is not.

And this is Pawian's main fault.

Novichok
6 Jul 2024  #1226

Anyhoo, a woman is an adult human female

I am so proud of you...

The reason why leftist woke scum chokes up on your definition is that it includes "female".

No "female", no "woman". This ends all the crap that "transgender women" are women.

"Transgender women" are not women because they are not females. Duh!

Thanks again, maf...

Jon, eat shlt...

Vincent
6 Jul 2024  #1227

I prefer the golden rule

The golden rule for teachers in most countries penetrated by the woke ideology, is to go along with the "lie" or say nothing, and keep your job. Sound familiar?

Ironside
6 Jul 2024  #1228

The way you immediately personally insult anyone who disagrees with you is off-putting...

He is off-putting. He claims I'm bad. He is delusional about it because I call him a retard. lol!
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The golden rule

Could you tell me if there is any chance that there will be a Reform Party? So far it is only movement that can stay or not. what is your take?

jon357
6 Jul 2024  #1229

countries penetrated by the woke ideology

What does that even mean?

Novichok
6 Jul 2024  #1230

Simple. Woke Ideology is a political movement meant to deny the existence of objective truth and to replace it with mass hysterias based on feelings, not facts. See Covid and trans bullshit.

Once we accept that we are we say we are, not what we really are, everything is off the rails. That is why in totalitarian systems, the first victims are the objective truth, traditions, religion, family, freedom of speech, and the right to own arms.

Then, for extra credits, comes the claim that fagots and other perverts are normal and that any opposition to this claim is evil.

That's why woke scum refuses to define "a woman". A society that can be confused about something so fundamental can be talked into anything.

Mission accomplished.

Memo to the azholes who suggested that I have dementia: Fvck you!


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