European News and Poland Thread 3

Hey Brits, pay attention here.
The UK is expecting to get a new prime minister, one that obama has been mentoring for months.
Google that so you can prepare for it. 😮
Today, even before votes have been cast, the accusations the right of British politics have begun.
Unfortunately, there is no sign as yet that people even understand what has actually happened and why.
This makes an effective response impossible.

...who used to be the PM of Congo?

I've lived in the UK a lot longer than you. Heck, you couldn't even get the man's name correct.

It could have been a typo.

Of course you did. What I meant is that we are both trying to predict the future. Neither one of us knows for sure what will happen.

Really? Check the position of f and g when you type on a phone.

Let me care about my future, and you care about yours.

What Americans think of Rishi Sunak

😁

Believe it or not I voted for the things that matter to me, not trans rights. I don't know if things will improve under Labour and I don't particularly like Starmer, but the Conservatives have done little to combat the cost of living, rents are sky high with little housing available, and trying to buy a first home for young people is nigh on impossible.

The NHS is crumbling, most dentists are now private, foodbanks have sadly become a normality, the level of poverty has risen, wages aren't rising anywhere near enough to combat the cost of living, water companies are polluting the rivers etc while the fat cat bosses are getting richer and not being held accountable. No economic growth either.

I am voting for change. The Conservatives haven't even fulfilled their 2019 manifesto so why would I believe a word of their new one? They are hopelessly out of touch.

Why do you think a Labour landslide is predicted? People have had enough of Conservative incompetence and lies.


We'll have to wait and see but it's going to take the best part of 10 years to see improvements whoever gets into power in my opinion.

This NHS is in even a bigger mess & shambles than I previously thought

theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/21/records-on-300m-patient-interactions-with-nhs-stolen-in-russian-hack

Is there anything good in that UK except football and music

Yes, and a lot of them, e.g. the British army.

Same in the United States.

Same in the United States
Feniks, you just described the United Staes to a 'T' so it's not just the U.K. that the Globalists are destroying.
Wait until digital currency is implemented 100% and you will see that it is all about control.
Does covid ring a bell ?

I concur 100% and that goes for both of our countries.
Remember back when Ziemowit and I were warning that this was coming and to prepare.
Remember in the covid thread that I said that it has become every man for himself.
People that are in any kind of debt are going to suffer big time as the tide goes out.
And when the tide goes out we will all be able to see who has been swimming naked.
Lock and load because it is gong to get nasty before it gets any better.

I suspect you can answer the question yourself, given that both countries are (like Poland and the US) signatories to the UN treaty on refugees. That and the French armed forces possibly having an opinion about thousands of people being forced off a ferry at gunpoint. All valid solutions have been considered by those who don't have the luxury of either an audience in the taproom at the Dog and Dick or being grouchy from behind a computer.


It's hard to see the appeal of that greasy fascistic demagogue. A certain nast6 type likes him however perhaps it's just that the generation who wore safety pins in their clothes when they were 19, smashed things for fun and sprayed 'SHAM69' and 'sex pistols' on bus stops are now all 61 with Nissan Micras, cellulite and a cheap conservatory on the back of their bungalow are as nihilistic as they always were.


7 existed when the Tories took office. I used an American textbook in Saudi Arabia in 2010 and it had the term food bank. I'd never heard it; the concept was new to me, Now there are nearly 3000, including in my town. Even worse than when the Sally Army opened a soup kitchen in the mid 80s, about 4 or 5 years into Thatcher's Conservative administration.

Whenever they're in office, there are bad times. The poverty and economic decline of the 80s (Milo will disagree since he's a Londoner; where I was was very different), the frozen salaries, rising cost of living and privately owned infrastructure of the last decade and th8 is mirrored in Tory administrations for more than two centuries.


It isn't. It is operating under pressure deliberately caused by Tory misrule, deliberate underfunding by a party that contained key figures who favoured (as Farage does) privatising it and replacing it with a system where insurance companies make money. Nevertheless, the staff are incredibly dedicated and provide a health system that compares very favourably to ones that cost far more.


Lots of things, and they need using properly.

People have been fooled by PR if they bang on about trannies or a party stopping dinghies landing or what Jeremy Corbyn did or didn't say in 1979 or whether or not a statue was grafittied or whether a politician who was once a single mother at 16 briefly rented her ex council house to her brother or not or how tousled Boris' hair was and Farage's nice smile.

To quote Russell T Davies: "Beware those men, the jokers and the tricksters and the clowns. They will laugh us into Hell."

Hey, stupid, refugees can come only from wars, not global warming, poverty, crime, or mean husbands.
Second, each country can limit how many it will take. That UN treaty is not a suicide pact.
Third, refugees must go back when the war is over.
Fourth, country shopping is not allowed. You stay where you are safe the first time.

What an idiot...

I see Vincent learnt how to use define woman argument from Novi...... Amasing!!!


Yes, that is a major problem of Brits who vote Labour. :):):)

What is a woman?

It's the same old circular moaning about weird details. They're victims of long term PR campaigns run for malign state actors and for people making money out of their naïveté.

What is a woman?

All those brainiacs and nobody knows what a woman is...Giving military advice to Russia...no problem...A woman...Hmm...how to answer this one without looking like a total moron...

Just curious...How did you manage to marry one if you don't know what it is?

The woman is a mystery.

the treat is clearly not fit for purpose.... counties need to exit themselves from it to force changes

just accepting dysfunctional laws is a form of dysfunction

Nihilistic old trolls like Ryszard are less of a mystery however. They're just crazies.

Whereas the rest of us are getting on with things am£ giving the Workers a supermajority.

Things are going to get better

So what is a woman?

If you think this question is trivial you are a super moron. If you wish I will explain why.

The election is not about your issues with gender.

Vincent has been watching politicians being too scared to answer this question for about 5 years, while you have been living in a cave. What is amasing is the fact that you can't seem to define a woman as well.

Do you really believe that Jon?

I don't, I think things will get much worse and then the UK will have a MASSIVE swing to the right,just like the rest of the world, if a bit too late.


Good question.


It's not, but Keir Starmer seems incapable of answering this question!
Voters need to think about this.

Most people evidently care about jobs, wages, prices, housing, hospitals, schools, trains, buses, water, leccy, gas than frilly knickers, strap on todgers and Adam's Apples. They bother more about why their local museum has closed and become a branch of Soho House. They bother that they can't afford a good holiday and that their High Street is full of vape shops, charity shops and boarded up windows. They worry that all the jobs are agency ones.

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what kind of track record does labour have with those issues? (genuinely curious)

A much, much better one than the party of the rich. Most of it was created by Labour.

Since Blair, they've allowed private involvement in infrastructure however it all went a bit wrong. Instead of the utilities belong8ng to small shareholders and to pension funds, manages funds etc, they were bought out by foreign governments, private equity funds, unnamed investors etc and have t delivered the service levels that were agreed. Labour councils are taking buses back into public ownership, even the Tories have had to annul a few private railway franchises and it's been made clear that contracts won't automatically renew for any such infrastructure 'investment' and the worst of them that don't meet agreed service levels will forfeit them.

I mean, objectively speaking it is not surprising that the Tories lost the election. They had 4 PMs in a row, 3 of which resigned in disgrace and did huge damage to their countries. At some point any self-repsecting electorate will say: Enough is enough.

From what I have read, Sunak may have been the least terrible one of them, so it is kind of unfair that he had to suffer this historical election defeat but he will leave under less humiliating circumstances than Johnson or Truss.

Although I fully agree with you about the Tories losing this election,I think your comment is much too premature.