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Germany. SPD coalition with CDU/CSU leaves party youth out? What it means for Poland?



Weimarer
11 Feb 2019  #241

Did you see the german reunion celebration in Dresden when Merkel and her slimy servants landed and the crowd shouted her insults and that she should **** off. Those shouts could even heared in the church.

@Miloslaw
Of course its ****. Look how dirty those kitchens are. They cook on the floor. I would never eat that garbage.

Ziemowit
11 Feb 2019  #242

It felt like my country is in enormous danger. I saw that nobody stand with us.

Strangely enough, Our [Polish] Dearest Leader (I call him by this name as he holds no governmental post, yet he is definitely the real leader of the country at present) Chairman Jarosław Kaczyński said something along these lines in a TV interview shortly after his meeting with Bundeskanzlerin Merkel at the Hotel Bristol in Warsaw. He positively assesed his talks with Merkel and said he could understand her point of view on many issues, but "why she is persuing this immigration policy of hers I simply cannot comprehend" (or it was something like "God only knows what has entered into her soul"). Obviously, Chairman Kaczyński was trying to persuade her she should change her mind on sticking herself to that kind of policy, but she was evidently deaf to both ears while listening to his arguments on that.

Tacitus
12 Feb 2019  #243

Those shouts could even heared in the church.

Dunkeldeutschland indeed.

Weimarer
12 Feb 2019  #244

No, light. We dont need traitors here, Merkel can go to hell.

East Germans notice when someone wants to sell them **** coated with sugar.

Tacitus
12 Feb 2019  #245

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The NPD also does not acknowledge the Oder-Neisse-line. Revising it is part of their election program.

Torq
12 Feb 2019  #246

Is it indeed? You wouldn't happen to have any links to their election program?

Ironside
12 Feb 2019  #247

We Germans have no shame either.

ditto!

Only if you agree that Poland also has guilt over the numerous pogroms against Jews and Ukrainians

Oh quite writing that utter tripe and rather stick to your usual lies.

are the kind of foreigners those peoole despises.

Nah, I 'like' that dude Weimarer he doesn't beat around the bush. Also there is no a law that states one has to like foreigners.

Bratwurst Boy
12 Feb 2019  #248

Is it indeed? You wouldn't happen to have any links to their election program?

Only in German:

medien.npd.de/dokumente/parteiprogramm.pdf

Look at page: 14 b) Europäische Friedensordnung

....eine Politik zur Wiedervereinigung Deutschlands innerhalb seiner geschichtlich gewachsenen Grenzen....

Whatever that means....

delphiandomine
12 Feb 2019  #249

That's the language they use - if I remember rightly, one problem West Germany had was that they couldn't legally recognise the Oder-Neisse Line because the West German government didn't have the competence to do so, hence the 'legal' borders were those of 1937. They're essentially stating a claim to those borders.

Lyzko
12 Feb 2019  #250

Weimarer, you come across as an unrepenetant Nazi, scrap the "Neo" part. I pity the future of Germany!

Tacitus
12 Feb 2019  #251

They're essentially stating a claim to those borders.

It has been a few years since the last time I checked, but back then they also used to claim that the former Eastern territories were under "Polish adminastration", which used to be the German claim before the Warsaw treaty in 1972.

Rich Mazur
12 Feb 2019  #252

Weimarer, you come across as an unrepenetant Nazi, scrap the "Neo" part. I pity the future of Germany!

I am not his lawyer, but that was unfair and empty of supporting evidence.
I detest non-English, non-white foreigners. Am I a Nazi? How many people like this live with you. None? How dare you to be a Nazi!!!

See how it works when empty words replace logic and facts?
Let me rephrase it. If Hitler did only what Weimarer is for, Hitler would be Germany's George Washington today.

Weimarer
12 Feb 2019  #253

@Lyzko

Im not a Nazi. I despise any form of socialism. Beside that, if a patriotic german who cares for his nation, us a nazi, so be it.

Tacitus
12 Feb 2019  #254

Because socialism is what the Nazis were all about... .

Weimarer
12 Feb 2019  #255

Yes, it actually is. National socialism.

Im patriotic. I dont hate other countries. I love my own.

Miloslaw
12 Feb 2019  #256

You are not a Nazi,Don'let these idiots bully you.

Rich Mazur
12 Feb 2019  #257

Because socialism is what the Nazis were all about... .

That would news to the Nazis. In fact, they would be pissed off, demand a correction, and would sue you.

Bratwurst Boy
12 Feb 2019  #258

and in eastern germany the choice of the majority.

Crap....even in Thüringen the AfD runs head-to-head with the CDU. Not to forget the other parties...that is in no way a majority. It won't even be enough for a coalition.

The AfD was important, because it worked as catalyst to change Germany and break open the crust of Merkel. Thats what im thankful for.

I agree with that.

How can i trust a party that caused so much damage? AKK is Merkel.

Did you read what has come out of the talks this sunday? As the AKK-CDU has rehashed the whole bruhaha? What they want to change, to make better?

please translate a non-English quote
spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/cdu-was-annegret-kramp-karrenbauer-in-der-migrationspolitik-will-a-1252702.html

I want that! For that I have to vote for the CDU, not the AfD.

Weimarer
12 Feb 2019  #259

They talk and dont act. They talk and do nothing. For me only action counts.

High results for AfD keeps the pressure on them.

I will vote CDU when all the points you mentioned are realized, until then i vote AfD.

Bratwurst Boy
12 Feb 2019  #260

They talk and dont act. They talk and do nothing. For me only action counts.

And still you want to vote AfD! :)

Hmmm.....a party which can allow to promise you eierlegende Wollmilchsäue because they will never come in any danger to put their money on it or to disappoint you.

There is always great talk from the sidelines, they have that in common with "Die Linke" and other nutters....

PS: Die Linke hates the EU too....they love Putin though...:)

PPS: We better stop talking about Germany here! Not the right thread...

Weimarer
12 Feb 2019  #261

You admitted the AfD broke up Merkels crust, now we have empty words from the CDU where they copy AfD positions.

Can you accept, that i give a **** about words and want see hard action and then decide? We heared enough empty words.

CDU lost my trust, winning it back wont be achieved with empty words. Same counts for many in eastern germany.

When the points you mentioned have become executed law, they won back my trust. Until now its just hot air.

Spike31
12 Feb 2019  #262

Another lie

I've posted links to the article with with quotes and stats earlier on. I don't like to abuse this word but you are, indeed, an internet troll. Why don't you try to add something of value for a change?

Bratwurst Boy
12 Feb 2019  #263

now we have empty words from the CDU where they copy AfD positions.

Nope...the AfD started out as a copy of the old CDU from before Merkel. Now the CDU under AKK is moving (hopefully) back to the right of the center, where she belongs. But so many years of moving to the left under Merkel isn't overcome in a day.

The AfD would become a true rival for the CDU in the conservative corner once she sheds all the extremists in their ranks, for example any Gerexit is a no-go...

When she doesn't do this and the AKK-CDU is moving in (back) again in the same time, the AfD will soon fall back in the margins again (where she was before 2015) and can beat it out with the NPD for the extremist leftovers.

Weimarer
12 Feb 2019  #264

Maybe, until then i support AfD. As i said, words are meaningless.

Bratwurst Boy
12 Feb 2019  #265

When the points you mentioned have become executed law, they won back my trust. Until now its just hot air.

The next important date for that is in two weeks, when the CDU executive committee decides how much of these actions will be taken in the party program for the european elections.

It might interest you too that AKK said quite clearly (she was directly asked) that a 2015 will never happen again, she would as "ultima ratio" close the german borders.

A bigger finger to Merkel (very politely given though) you won't get!

bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/nach-cdu-werkstattgespraech-kramp-karrenbauer-wuerde-grenzen-schliessen-60090396,la=de.bild.html#remId=1619361838262385483

Gute Nacht

delphiandomine
12 Feb 2019  #266

I've posted links to the article with with quotes and stats earlier on.

You conveniently forgot to mention that only a minority of young people vote. A slim majority of a minority doesn't make "most of".

Miloslaw
12 Feb 2019  #267

Tell us, why was Poland so poor and backwards without the EU?

Because of the socialism you seem to champion.

delphiandomine
12 Feb 2019  #268

Except none of the governments post-1989 were socialist with the exception of the current PiS government.

Miloslaw
12 Feb 2019  #269

Again,you twist and turn......unbelievable!
Polands poverty was caused pre 1989,you talk bollox as usual.

delphiandomine
12 Feb 2019  #270

Anything to ignore the fact that Poland grew considerably after EU accession.

Don't worry, I appreciate that you aren't here to see the differences.


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